Big Gay Ben Suspended for 4-6 Games.

[Vagitron]

@cribbs-is-the-man said:

I bet the suspension gets reduced and he plays in the game against us..

Um the report already states that it's a conditional suspension. If he goes through a behavioral evaluation and maintains a certain demeanor through the first 4 game suspension it will only be a 4 game suspension. The kicker is he's held out of OTA's until this psyche evaluation is complete which is total B.S. I just hope that evaluation is done much sooner than later.

[Vagitron]

@clevelandfanforlife said:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...ame-suspension/

I knew that 4 games would be the penalty the second I saw the Steeler's schedule. The NFL has no balls and was terrified to put the Steelers in a prime time game without Ben. It's a four game suspension, followed by a bye week and then the Browns. This is such bull crap. Way to favor certain teams over others Goodell.

lol. A 6 game suspension is MORE than harsh. A 4 game suspension is still a little rough so I don't see how anyone is getting preferential treatment for a player that wasn't even charged. You're just pissed you're still going to lose that game. Hell you'd lose that game with DD behind center.

[dawgpound3]

Rorbotron said:

Since when do people base Leftwich's ability on what he did in f.ucking tampa? Oh let me answer that, absolutely no one.

Well xxxxing Tampa as you describe, had some recievers in 2009. Had Kellen Winslow, Marcus Stovall, Antonio Bryant(was hurt most of time but went to cinci), and Straughter. Why is that Freeman did better than him? Not stat-wise, but on game film? Cuz Leftwich sucks nut. END OF STORY. YOU FAIL.

[KYBrown]

Rorbotron said:

Since when do people base Leftwich's ability on what he did in f.ucking tampa? Oh let me answer that, absolutely no one.

What has he done to prove he is a QB capable of carrying what has become a pass first team?

One playoff berth? Losing the starting job in two different cities?

Edit: He attempted fifty one passes as a Steeler.

Double Edit: Scratch that, it was only thirty six.

[Vagitron]

@dawgpound3 said:

Well xxxxing Tampa as you describe, had some recievers in 2009. Had Kellen Winslow, Marcus Stovall, Antonio Bryant(was hurt most of time but went to cinci), and Straughter. Why is that Freeman did better than him? Not stat-wise, but on game film? Cuz Leftwich sucks nut. END OF STORY. YOU FAIL.

He did well when he started for us and he certainly played well for the Jags. His only detriment is his slow release. All this coming from a guy whose starting QB is Jake Delhomme lol.

[ClevelandFanForLife]

Rorbotron said:

lol. A 6 game suspension is MORE than harsh. A 4 game suspension is still a little rough so I don't see how anyone is getting preferential treatment for a player that wasn't even charged. You're just pissed you're still going to lose that game. Hell you'd lose that game with DD behind center.

i'm not pissed about the suspension. he's getting that he deserves. i am pissed that the nfl didn't have the balls to put the steelers in a prime time game without ben.

[Vagitron]

@clevelandfanforlife said:

i'm not pissed about the suspension. he's getting that he deserves. i am pissed that the nfl didn't have the balls to put the steelers in a prime time game without ben.

If he gets the full 6 it does and why would the league? They know those prime time games make money. The Steelers without Big Ben draws less of a crowd. I'm sure you wouldn't give a sh.it if the Browns weren't slated to play the Steelers week six.

[ClevelandFanForLife]

Rorbotron said:

If he gets the full 6 it does and why would the league? They know those prime time games make money. The Steelers without Big Ben draws less of a crowd. I'm sure you wouldn't give a sh.it if the Browns weren't slated to play the Steelers week six.

actually, i really don't care. we beat them last year with ben and we can do it again. also, go away.

[choco]

then by your logic...jake will be fine. Defining future success on past performance

[Vagitron]

@choco said:

then by your logic...jake will be fine. Defining future success on past performance

Leftwich played well when he had to start for the Steelers. He hardly had a opportunity in Tampa Bay because the team was flat out bad. They put in Freeman so he could get experience under center because their seasons was clearly on the down turn. Jake Delhomme on the other hand hasn't played well for a while. Bryon has within the last 2 years.

[Vagitron]

@clevelandfanforlife said:

actually, i really don't care. we beat them last year with ben and we can do it again. also, go away.

No Aaron Smith, Polamalu...either of those guys are back and you get murdered. Yes the Steeler defense strictly hinges on both.

[SJ_Browns]

here are some interesting bits of info from goodell and a portion of the letter he sent to ben.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/th...ethlisberger-/1

From Goodell's letter to Ben: "You are held to a higher standard as an NFL player, and there is nothing about your conduct in Milledgeville that can remotely be described as admirable, responsible, or consistent with either the values of the league or the expectations of our fans," Goodell told Roethlisberger.

Roethlisberger will not be allowed to participate in the Steelers' offseason workouts until his behavior is evaluated by medical professionals. The evaluators will confer with Goodell later this summer, and if Roethlisberger is progressing he will be allowed to participate in training camp and the preseason.

Goodell noted that Roethlisberger was charged with no crime. But he said the fact that the QB provided alcohol to underage people was a factor in his decision. "There is no question that the excessive consumption of alcohol that evening put the students and yourself at risk," he told Roethlisberger.

Goodell spoke with Georgia DA Fred Bright, who decided not to charge Roethlisberger, as he considered the punishment. He told the QB to consider the ban not only a punishment but a second chance to reform his decision-making.

"In your six years in the NFL, you have first thrilled and now disappointed a great many people," he told Roethlisberger. "I urge you to take full advantage of this opportunity to get your life and career back on track."

[ClevelandFanForLife]

Rorbotron said:

No Aaron Smith, Polamalu...either of those guys are back and you get murdered. Yes the Steeler defense strictly hinges on both.

news flash genius: we didn't beat you with offense. you could have everyone at full strength on defense and it still would have helped you guys stop cribbs on special teams or your line from stopping our defense from sacking ben 8 times. troy and smith wouldn't have helped.

[The Gipper]

Rorbotron said:

Since when do people base Leftwich's ability on what he did in f.ucking tampa? Oh let me answer that, absolutely no one.

Actually, it is everyone except delusional Squeeler fans. The NFL is a "What have you done for me lately" league. You are judged on your more recent performance. Leftwich had an NFL starting QB job on a silver platter there in Tampa ripe for the taking. He couldn't take it. He wasn't up to the task per the evaluation of the Tampa coaching staff. Thus, they were pleased to get rid of him at the cost of a farthing. And the only team in the NFL to whom he may have even been worth a farthing was the Steelers because he had recently spent a couple of years with them in their system.

[Vagitron]

@the-gipper said:

Actually, it is everyone except delusional Squeeler fans. The NFL is a "What have you done for me lately" league. You are judged on your more recent performance. Leftwich had an NFL starting QB job on a silver platter there in Tampa ripe for the taking. He couldn't take it. He wasn't up to the task per the evaluation of the Tampa coaching staff. Thus, they were pleased to get rid of him at the cost of a farthing. And the only team in the NFL to whom he may have even been worth a farthing was the Steelers because he had recently spent a couple of years with them in their system.

I don't staunchly disagree but he's not a bad QB AND he was brought in to compete with Dixon. Either way it's all irrelevant. The Steelers still beat the Browns twice this year and make the playoffs. Write it down.

[SJ_Browns]

@the-gipper said:

Actually, it is everyone except delusional Squeeler fans. The NFL is a "What have you done for me lately" league. You are judged on your more recent performance. Leftwich had an NFL starting QB job on a silver platter there in Tampa ripe for the taking. He couldn't take it. He wasn't up to the task per the evaluation of the Tampa coaching staff. Thus, they were pleased to get rid of him at the cost of a farthing. And the only team in the NFL to whom he may have even been worth a farthing was the Steelers because he had recently spent a couple of years with them in their system.

the absolute insanity of bitchburgh trolls is mind boggling and quite humorous at the same time. so you can't judge leftwich on what he did last season in tampa, but you CAN judge jake d on what he did last year in carolina? and did a bitchburgh troll really say leftwich has been better than jake d for the last few years?

wow, just a perfect example why it's not worth arguing with these numb skull trolls. they're out of their minds with all of the rapistburger drama and haven't been right since the browns embarassed the stoolers last december on national tv and knocked them out of the playoffs. i've never seen so many bitchburgh trolls having a rampant hissy fit on a browns board. i, for one, am enjoying every minute of this.

[choco]

Rorbotron said:

No Aaron Smith, Polamalu...either of those guys are back and you get murdered. Yes the Steeler defense strictly hinges on both.

They'll be hurt again in 2 games....

Like it matters...half our team was on ir. We beat you up with rookies and depth.

[choco]

Lol....the "logic" is laughable

[The Gipper]

Rorbotron said:

No Aaron Smith, Polamalu...either of those guys are back and you get murdered. Yes the Steeler defense strictly hinges on both.

Well, you ain't gonna beat the Ravens or the Bengals even with those guys. And here is a clue for you: those guys are pretty good, but they are not the key component to your defensive team. Your DC is. The guys that replaced them were adequate, and having Smith and Fabio in there would have been a slight, not a tremendous difference.

[Kosar_For_President]

Rorbotron said:

He did well when he started for us and he certainly played well for the Jags. His only detriment is his slow release. All this coming from a guy whose starting QB is Jake Delhomme lol.

I guess if any team can get by with a poor QB the Steelers can, but dude they won't. The is a reason he is a back up is because his skills have diminished from injury and has NEVER played in all 16 games in his career. There is a reason he has only played in 17 games in the last 4 years. He gets hurt over and over again, which dates back to Marshall. With your line, this dude will go down week 3. They relied heavily on Ben after your losing streak last season to win games. Mendenhall had 30 yard rushing games in 3 of those games at the end of the season, riding on Big Gay's arm. I am not saying this because I hate the Steelers, dude you got some problems unless you get a solid starter. Even then, your line is quite porous. Bulger anyone?