Big Gay Ben Suspended for 4-6 Games.
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then by your logic...jake will be fine. Defining future success on past performance
Leftwich played well when he had to start for the Steelers. He hardly had a opportunity in Tampa Bay because the team was flat out bad. They put in Freeman so he could get experience under center because their seasons was clearly on the down turn. Jake Delhomme on the other hand hasn't played well for a while. Bryon has within the last 2 years.
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Rorbotron said:
If he gets the full 6 it does and why would the league? They know those prime time games make money. The Steelers without Big Ben draws less of a crowd. I'm sure you wouldn't give a sh.it if the Browns weren't slated to play the Steelers week six.actually, i really don't care. we beat them last year with ben and we can do it again. also, go away.
actually, i really don't care. we beat them last year with ben and we can do it again. also, go away.
No Aaron Smith, Polamalu...either of those guys are back and you get murdered. Yes the Steeler defense strictly hinges on both.
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here are some interesting bits of info from goodell and a portion of the letter he sent to ben.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/th...ethlisberger-/1
From Goodell's letter to Ben: "You are held to a higher standard as an NFL player, and there is nothing about your conduct in Milledgeville that can remotely be described as admirable, responsible, or consistent with either the values of the league or the expectations of our fans," Goodell told Roethlisberger.
Roethlisberger will not be allowed to participate in the Steelers' offseason workouts until his behavior is evaluated by medical professionals. The evaluators will confer with Goodell later this summer, and if Roethlisberger is progressing he will be allowed to participate in training camp and the preseason.
Goodell noted that Roethlisberger was charged with no crime. But he said the fact that the QB provided alcohol to underage people was a factor in his decision. "There is no question that the excessive consumption of alcohol that evening put the students and yourself at risk," he told Roethlisberger.
Goodell spoke with Georgia DA Fred Bright, who decided not to charge Roethlisberger, as he considered the punishment. He told the QB to consider the ban not only a punishment but a second chance to reform his decision-making.
"In your six years in the NFL, you have first thrilled and now disappointed a great many people," he told Roethlisberger. "I urge you to take full advantage of this opportunity to get your life and career back on track."
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actually, i really don't care. we beat them last year with ben and we can do it again. also, go away.
No Aaron Smith, Polamalu...either of those guys are back and you get murdered. Yes the Steeler defense strictly hinges on both.
Rorbotron said:
No Aaron Smith, Polamalu...either of those guys are back and you get murdered. Yes the Steeler defense strictly hinges on both.news flash genius: we didn't beat you with offense. you could have everyone at full strength on defense and it still would have helped you guys stop cribbs on special teams or your line from stopping our defense from sacking ben 8 times. troy and smith wouldn't have helped.
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Rorbotron said:
Since when do people base Leftwich's ability on what he did in f.ucking tampa? Oh let me answer that, absolutely no one.Actually, it is everyone except delusional Squeeler fans. The NFL is a "What have you done for me lately" league. You are judged on your more recent performance. Leftwich had an NFL starting QB job on a silver platter there in Tampa ripe for the taking. He couldn't take it. He wasn't up to the task per the evaluation of the Tampa coaching staff. Thus, they were pleased to get rid of him at the cost of a farthing. And the only team in the NFL to whom he may have even been worth a farthing was the Steelers because he had recently spent a couple of years with them in their system.
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Rorbotron said:
Since when do people base Leftwich's ability on what he did in f.ucking tampa? Oh let me answer that, absolutely no one.Actually, it is everyone except delusional Squeeler fans. The NFL is a "What have you done for me lately" league. You are judged on your more recent performance. Leftwich had an NFL starting QB job on a silver platter there in Tampa ripe for the taking. He couldn't take it. He wasn't up to the task per the evaluation of the Tampa coaching staff. Thus, they were pleased to get rid of him at the cost of a farthing. And the only team in the NFL to whom he may have even been worth a farthing was the Steelers because he had recently spent a couple of years with them in their system.
Actually, it is everyone except delusional Squeeler fans. The NFL is a "What have you done for me lately" league. You are judged on your more recent performance. Leftwich had an NFL starting QB job on a silver platter there in Tampa ripe for the taking. He couldn't take it. He wasn't up to the task per the evaluation of the Tampa coaching staff. Thus, they were pleased to get rid of him at the cost of a farthing. And the only team in the NFL to whom he may have even been worth a farthing was the Steelers because he had recently spent a couple of years with them in their system.
I don't staunchly disagree but he's not a bad QB AND he was brought in to compete with Dixon. Either way it's all irrelevant. The Steelers still beat the Browns twice this year and make the playoffs. Write it down.
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Rorbotron said:
Since when do people base Leftwich's ability on what he did in f.ucking tampa? Oh let me answer that, absolutely no one.Actually, it is everyone except delusional Squeeler fans. The NFL is a "What have you done for me lately" league. You are judged on your more recent performance. Leftwich had an NFL starting QB job on a silver platter there in Tampa ripe for the taking. He couldn't take it. He wasn't up to the task per the evaluation of the Tampa coaching staff. Thus, they were pleased to get rid of him at the cost of a farthing. And the only team in the NFL to whom he may have even been worth a farthing was the Steelers because he had recently spent a couple of years with them in their system.
Actually, it is everyone except delusional Squeeler fans. The NFL is a "What have you done for me lately" league. You are judged on your more recent performance. Leftwich had an NFL starting QB job on a silver platter there in Tampa ripe for the taking. He couldn't take it. He wasn't up to the task per the evaluation of the Tampa coaching staff. Thus, they were pleased to get rid of him at the cost of a farthing. And the only team in the NFL to whom he may have even been worth a farthing was the Steelers because he had recently spent a couple of years with them in their system.
the absolute insanity of bitchburgh trolls is mind boggling and quite humorous at the same time. so you can't judge leftwich on what he did last season in tampa, but you CAN judge jake d on what he did last year in carolina? and did a bitchburgh troll really say leftwich has been better than jake d for the last few years?
wow, just a perfect example why it's not worth arguing with these numb skull trolls. they're out of their minds with all of the rapistburger drama and haven't been right since the browns embarassed the stoolers last december on national tv and knocked them out of the playoffs. i've never seen so many bitchburgh trolls having a rampant hissy fit on a browns board. i, for one, am enjoying every minute of this.
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actually, i really don't care. we beat them last year with ben and we can do it again. also, go away.
No Aaron Smith, Polamalu...either of those guys are back and you get murdered. Yes the Steeler defense strictly hinges on both.
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actually, i really don't care. we beat them last year with ben and we can do it again. also, go away.
No Aaron Smith, Polamalu...either of those guys are back and you get murdered. Yes the Steeler defense strictly hinges on both.
Rorbotron said:
No Aaron Smith, Polamalu...either of those guys are back and you get murdered. Yes the Steeler defense strictly hinges on both.Well, you ain't gonna beat the Ravens or the Bengals even with those guys. And here is a clue for you: those guys are pretty good, but they are not the key component to your defensive team. Your DC is. The guys that replaced them were adequate, and having Smith and Fabio in there would have been a slight, not a tremendous difference.
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Well xxxxing Tampa as you describe, had some recievers in 2009. Had Kellen Winslow, Marcus Stovall, Antonio Bryant(was hurt most of time but went to cinci), and Straughter. Why is that Freeman did better than him? Not stat-wise, but on game film? Cuz Leftwich sucks nut. END OF STORY. YOU FAIL.
He did well when he started for us and he certainly played well for the Jags. His only detriment is his slow release. All this coming from a guy whose starting QB is Jake Delhomme lol.
Rorbotron said:
He did well when he started for us and he certainly played well for the Jags. His only detriment is his slow release. All this coming from a guy whose starting QB is Jake Delhomme lol.I guess if any team can get by with a poor QB the Steelers can, but dude they won't. The is a reason he is a back up is because his skills have diminished from injury and has NEVER played in all 16 games in his career. There is a reason he has only played in 17 games in the last 4 years. He gets hurt over and over again, which dates back to Marshall. With your line, this dude will go down week 3. They relied heavily on Ben after your losing streak last season to win games. Mendenhall had 30 yard rushing games in 3 of those games at the end of the season, riding on Big Gay's arm. I am not saying this because I hate the Steelers, dude you got some problems unless you get a solid starter. Even then, your line is quite porous. Bulger anyone?
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Rorbotron said:
He did well when he started for us and he certainly played well for the Jags. His only detriment is his slow release. All this coming from a guy whose starting QB is Jake Delhomme lol.I guess if any team can get by with a poor QB the Steelers can, but dude they won't. The is a reason he is a back up is because his skills have diminished from injury and has NEVER played in all 16 games in his career. There is a reason he has only played in 17 games in the last 4 years. He gets hurt over and over again, which dates back to Marshall. With your line, this dude will go down week 3. They relied heavily on Ben after your losing streak last season to win games. Mendenhall had 30 yard rushing games in 3 of those games at the end of the season, riding on Big Gay's arm. I am not saying this because I hate the Steelers, dude you got some problems unless you get a solid starter. Even then, your line is quite porous. Bulger anyone?
I guess if any team can get by with a poor QB the Steelers can, but dude they won't. The is a reason he is a back up is because his skills have diminished from injury and has NEVER played in all 16 games in his career. There is a reason he has only played in 17 games in the last 4 years. He gets hurt over and over again, which dates back to Marshall. With your line, this dude will go down week 3. They relied heavily on Ben after your losing streak last season to win games. Mendenhall had 30 yard rushing games in 3 of those games at the end of the season, riding on Big Gay's arm. I am not saying this because I hate the Steelers, dude you got some problems unless you get a solid starter. Even then, your line is quite porous. Bulger anyone?
The line is fine and leftwich was brought in to compete with Dixon. I'd wager Dixon wins the job. He already came in to camp 10 pounds heavier after working out in the off season. It will be Dixon's team until Big Ben returns and I'm just fine with that scenario.
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I guess if any team can get by with a poor QB the Steelers can, but dude they won't. The is a reason he is a back up is because his skills have diminished from injury and has NEVER played in all 16 games in his career. There is a reason he has only played in 17 games in the last 4 years. He gets hurt over and over again, which dates back to Marshall. With your line, this dude will go down week 3. They relied heavily on Ben after your losing streak last season to win games. Mendenhall had 30 yard rushing games in 3 of those games at the end of the season, riding on Big Gay's arm. I am not saying this because I hate the Steelers, dude you got some problems unless you get a solid starter. Even then, your line is quite porous. Bulger anyone?
The line is fine and leftwich was brought in to compete with Dixon. I'd wager Dixon wins the job. He already came in to camp 10 pounds heavier after working out in the off season. It will be Dixon's team until Big Ben returns and I'm just fine with that scenario.
Rorbotron said:
The line is fine and leftwich was brought in to compete with Dixon. I'd wager Dixon wins the job. He already came in to camp 10 pounds heavier after working out in the off season. It will be Dixon's team until Big Ben returns and I'm just fine with that scenario.Sorry man I'm not buying it.
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more from goodell on his decision.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/th...minal-charges/1
NEW YORK -- NFL commissioner Roger Goodell defended his decision to suspend Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger on Wednesday despite the absence of criminal charges against him.
Goodell banned Roethlisberger for six games under the league's personal-conduct policy. He was accused of sexual assault in Georgia on March 5, but the local DA declined to prosecute him and cited a lack of evidence needed for a conviction.
Goodell said the absence of a legal certainty did not affect his decision.
"You don't have to be convicted of a crime or even charged with a crime," Goodell said of his authority under the personal-conduct policy. "If there's a pattern of behavior that reflects poorly on yourself, your team, and the league in general, it's important for us to have early intervention to stop that behavior and to correct the behavior. And that's what our intent is here.
"Correct the behavior so that they live up to the standards people expect in the NFL."
Goodell scolded Roethlisberger in a letter announcing the suspension and said there was no doubt the Steelers QB had tarnished the league's image. Still, he ordered Roethlisberger into counseling and said his goal is to encourage the QB to make himself into a better person.
"The intention is to change the behavior," he said. -- Jim Corbett
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Rorbotron said:
The line is fine and leftwich was brought in to compete with Dixon. I'd wager Dixon wins the job. He already came in to camp 10 pounds heavier after working out in the off season. It will be Dixon's team until Big Ben returns and I'm just fine with that scenario.Sorry man I'm not buying it.
Sorry man I'm not buying it.
Don't buy it. Dixon nearly beat the Ravens and Leftwich was brought in to compete. You don't need to apologize, I wouldn't agree with me either because to agree means the Steelers will still be formidable without Big Ben. A notion no one in Cleveland wishes to acknowledge. Either way the 6 game suspension with the possibility for 4 is a harsh suspension. The Steelers have the trade feelers out looking for maybe a crazy Al Davis offer, one that I don't believe surfaces. He's worth more than a top 10 this year and I'm making the outlandish claims because that is exactly what he's worth to the Pittsburgh Steelers. In order for the Rooney's to consider unloading him they are going to have to be offered a lions share. They've already gone on record asking the City and the fans to get behind him in support because they are giving him another chance. He's not going anywhere. The Steelers will deal and everyone will move on...I'm so amazingly tired of the drama and pissed off at Ben for creating it. Everyone in Pittsburgh hopes he wakes the f.uck up and BELIEVE ME the city is split 50/50 on the issue. A good number want him flat out gone. My opinion is not entirely representative of the Pittsburgh fan base. The city is torn and it's Ben Ben's fault. He should be ashamed of himself and I think that shame will bring him back a better person and a better QB. He'll do his time and move on....I just hate that as a diehard Steeler fan I'm forced to deal with this a DAY BEFORE ONE OF THE BEST DAYS of the year.
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Sorry man I'm not buying it.
Don't buy it. Dixon nearly beat the Ravens and Leftwich was brought in to compete. You don't need to apologize, I wouldn't agree with me either because to agree means the Steelers will still be formidable without Big Ben. A notion no one in Cleveland wishes to acknowledge. Either way the 6 game suspension with the possibility for 4 is a harsh suspension. The Steelers have the trade feelers out looking for maybe a crazy Al Davis offer, one that I don't believe surfaces. He's worth more than a top 10 this year and I'm making the outlandish claims because that is exactly what he's worth to the Pittsburgh Steelers. In order for the Rooney's to consider unloading him they are going to have to be offered a lions share. They've already gone on record asking the City and the fans to get behind him in support because they are giving him another chance. He's not going anywhere. The Steelers will deal and everyone will move on...I'm so amazingly tired of the drama and pissed off at Ben for creating it. Everyone in Pittsburgh hopes he wakes the f.uck up and BELIEVE ME the city is split 50/50 on the issue. A good number want him flat out gone. My opinion is not entirely representative of the Pittsburgh fan base. The city is torn and it's Ben Ben's fault. He should be ashamed of himself and I think that shame will bring him back a better person and a better QB. He'll do his time and move on....I just hate that as a diehard Steeler fan I'm forced to deal with this a DAY BEFORE ONE OF THE BEST DAYS of the year.
Rorbotron said:
Don't buy it. Dixon nearly beat the Ravens and Leftwich was brought in to compete. You don't need to apologize, I wouldn't agree with me either because to agree means the Steelers will still be formidable without Big Ben. A notion no one in Cleveland wishes to acknowledge. Either way the 6 game suspension with the possibility for 4 is a harsh suspension. The Steelers have the trade feelers out looking for maybe a crazy Al Davis offer, one that I don't believe surfaces. He's worth more than a top 10 this year and I'm making the outlandish claims because that is exactly what he's worth to the Pittsburgh Steelers. In order for the Rooney's to consider unloading him they are going to have to be offered a lions share. They've already gone on record asking the City and the fans to get behind him in support because they are giving him another chance. He's not going anywhere. The Steelers will deal and everyone will move on...I'm so amazingly tired of the drama and pissed off at Ben for creating it. Everyone in Pittsburgh hopes he wakes the f.uck up and BELIEVE ME the city is split 50/50 on the issue. A good number want him flat out gone. My opinion is not entirely representative of the Pittsburgh fan base. The city is torn and it's Ben Ben's fault. He should be ashamed of himself and I think that shame will bring him back a better person and a better QB. He'll do his time and move on....I just hate that as a diehard Steeler fan I'm forced to deal with this a DAY BEFORE ONE OF THE BEST DAYS of the year.Like what if The Rooneys know that Ben's value is down a bit, but still want to deal him. Then What? Would they accept a first rounder and next year first or second.?
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Rorbotron said:
Don't buy it. Dixon nearly beat the Ravens and Leftwich was brought in to compete. You don't need to apologize, I wouldn't agree with me either because to agree means the Steelers will still be formidable without Big Ben. A notion no one in Cleveland wishes to acknowledge. Either way the 6 game suspension with the possibility for 4 is a harsh suspension. The Steelers have the trade feelers out looking for maybe a crazy Al Davis offer, one that I don't believe surfaces. He's worth more than a top 10 this year and I'm making the outlandish claims because that is exactly what he's worth to the Pittsburgh Steelers. In order for the Rooney's to consider unloading him they are going to have to be offered a lions share. They've already gone on record asking the City and the fans to get behind him in support because they are giving him another chance. He's not going anywhere. The Steelers will deal and everyone will move on...I'm so amazingly tired of the drama and pissed off at Ben for creating it. Everyone in Pittsburgh hopes he wakes the f.uck up and BELIEVE ME the city is split 50/50 on the issue. A good number want him flat out gone. My opinion is not entirely representative of the Pittsburgh fan base. The city is torn and it's Ben Ben's fault. He should be ashamed of himself and I think that shame will bring him back a better person and a better QB. He'll do his time and move on....I just hate that as a diehard Steeler fan I'm forced to deal with this a DAY BEFORE ONE OF THE BEST DAYS of the year.Like what if The Rooneys know that Ben's value is down a bit, but still want to deal him. Then What? Would they accept a first rounder and next year first or second.?
Like what if The Rooneys know that Ben's value is down a bit, but still want to deal him. Then What? Would they accept a first rounder and next year first or second.?
I really have no idea. I know that I'd have a hard time shipping him off for a first this year and a first or second next. Hell look what dumb a$$ Jerry Jones sent for lowly Roy Williams. My stance is that it's a bunch of smoke and mirrors. The Rooney's have the feelers out for a HUGE trade and if it doesn't arrive Big Ben stays put. I don't believe a huge trades hits the front porch so Big Ben stays a Steeler where he belongs. I honestly can't imagine a Steeler game without Big Ben behind center. I'd have a hard time getting past it to be honest and MAN would I hate to have to deal with him if he weren't a Steeler.
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Actually, it is everyone except delusional Squeeler fans. The NFL is a "What have you done for me lately" league. You are judged on your more recent performance. Leftwich had an NFL starting QB job on a silver platter there in Tampa ripe for the taking. He couldn't take it. He wasn't up to the task per the evaluation of the Tampa coaching staff. Thus, they were pleased to get rid of him at the cost of a farthing. And the only team in the NFL to whom he may have even been worth a farthing was the Steelers because he had recently spent a couple of years with them in their system.
I don't staunchly disagree but he's not a bad QB AND he was brought in to compete with Dixon. Either way it's all irrelevant. The Steelers still beat the Browns twice this year and make the playoffs. Write it down.
Rorbotron said:
I don't staunchly disagree but he's not a bad QB AND he was brought in to compete with Dixon. Either way it's all irrelevant. The Steelers still beat the Browns twice this year and make the playoffs. Write it down.Well, actually I have always like Leftwich. He has been a gutsy player and has had a bazooka arm. But that was then and this is now. Now, I don't think anyone knows what he has. I think the Steelers may have thrown him a lifeboat. If he is to be brought in to compete with Dennis Dixon....well, that shouldn't inspire confidence in either one.
As for the rest of what you said....well, you are down 1 QB for a while, your best WR, unproven running backs, and a bunch of guys on defense coming off injuries who you hope will be back to par.
And you said you would beat the Browns twice last year and make the playoffs. It didn't happen last year....with a stronger team. Why should it be expected to happen this year, other than you a wishin' and a hopin'?
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