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  • ANY hit that isn't in the back or lead with the helmet is a CLEAN hit.

    Whether or not the hit is necessary is a different question.

    Should we penalize clean hits that are unnecessary?

    @tobalaz said:

    ANY hit that isn't in the back or lead with the helmet is a CLEAN hit.

    Whether or not the hit is necessary is a different question.

    Should we penalize clean hits that are unnecessary?

    Yep, it's called "Unecessary Roughness"...

    No play on the ball.

    Defenseless receiver.

    Defender could have tried to pull up... But didn't.

    What if Welker had suffered a life threatening or debilitating injury... Still ok?

    I like big hits, blocks etc... But that was Unecessary

  • @rr59eagle said:

    Happened in the Bengal game . Holmes got absolutely "lit up" ,plus it was helmet to helmet .No flag ..The Steelers bench had no reaction to the Bengal player .They went to help a "very wobbly" teammate and that was it . This is a contact sport ..Funny how the NFL glorifies BIG HITS and fans talk about them all the time .Yet when an opponent "lays the wood" to someone ..it's because they are "cheap".Hines Ward HAS been hit like that in the past ,he accepts it as part of the game ..Your opinion is jaded due to your dislike of the Steelers I suppose ...

    Well there was a slight difference there, Holmes actually caught the ball and was tackled, Welker's shot came after the ball was tipped and on the ground 10 yards away from Welker.

    @thomas5737 said:

    Well there was a slight difference there, Holmes actually caught the ball and was tackled, Welker's shot came after the ball was tipped and on the ground 10 yards away from Welker.

    Watch the video. Welker's head hits the ground at the same time the ball does. I am sick of hits like this being penalized. As one who watched the Steelers-Browns games in the 70's I can say that if they threw flags on hits like that back then, there would have been penalties on both teams on half the plays. Guys would have paid more than their salary in fines. Maybe they should just tie pink ribbons around QBs and receivers so everyone knows they are not to be hit. Let them play the game. Flag for a late hit but not for good aggressive football. Remember, Turkey Jones' famous sacking of Bradshaw, which fractured his collar bone and put him out for weeks, wasn't even flagged and I don't remember anyone complaining much about it.

    And what is unnecessary roughness anyway? Since it's the Cheatriots, other teams have to be brutal to overcome their espionage, making all roughness necessary. 😆

  • Cheap shot on a defenseless receiver after the pass was already for sure incomplete. That's what they call dirty. Typical Pittsburgh.

    @dtbh said:

    Cheap shot on a defenseless receiver after the pass was already for sure incomplete. That's what they call dirty. Typical Pittsburgh.

    Your a typical Dumbarse... The ball was tipped in Flight, Clark seen the trajectory , knew he wasn't gonna beat the ball there and When for the Hit. Its called FOOTBALL. If your DBs thought like this your pass D would be all the better for it ! Seems I just seen Crocker bust one of our Receivers like this a couple weeks back... He didn't stay in Cleveland ??? Must have wanted to PLAY FOOTBALL !

  • @thomas5737 said:

    Well there was a slight difference there, Holmes actually caught the ball and was tackled, Welker's shot came after the ball was tipped and on the ground 10 yards away from Welker.

    Watch the video. Welker's head hits the ground at the same time the ball does. I am sick of hits like this being penalized. As one who watched the Steelers-Browns games in the 70's I can say that if they threw flags on hits like that back then, there would have been penalties on both teams on half the plays. Guys would have paid more than their salary in fines. Maybe they should just tie pink ribbons around QBs and receivers so everyone knows they are not to be hit. Let them play the game. Flag for a late hit but not for good aggressive football. Remember, Turkey Jones' famous sacking of Bradshaw, which fractured his collar bone and put him out for weeks, wasn't even flagged and I don't remember anyone complaining much about it.

    And what is unnecessary roughness anyway? Since it's the Cheatriots, other teams have to be brutal to overcome their espionage, making all roughness necessary. 😆

    @buck-the-frowns said:

    Watch the video. Welker's head hits the ground at the same time the ball does. I am sick of hits like this being penalized. As one who watched the Steelers-Browns games in the 70's I can say that if they threw flags on hits like that back then, there would have been penalties on both teams on half the plays. Guys would have paid more than their salary in fines. Maybe they should just tie pink ribbons around QBs and receivers so everyone knows they are not to be hit. Let them play the game. Flag for a late hit but not for good aggressive football. Remember, Turkey Jones' famous sacking of Bradshaw, which fractured his collar bone and put him out for weeks, wasn't even flagged and I don't remember anyone complaining much about it.

    And what is unnecessary roughness anyway? Since it's the Cheatriots, other teams have to be brutal to overcome their espionage, making all roughness necessary. 😆

    Hey, inbred steeler fag. The only thing I have to look forward to in Football the rest of the season is to see you inbreds lose in the playoffs. I hope you make it far, and then lose. It will give me satisfaction.

  • WHEN FOOTBALL was FOOTBALL... not this Candy coated surgery Offensive Extravaganza ! I played Safety and we blasted EVERYBODY... if you passed up a Hit like that Our coach would freaking be waiting on the Sideline to Hit YOU !!

  • @dtbh said:

    Cheap shot on a defenseless receiver after the pass was already for sure incomplete. That's what they call dirty. Typical Pittsburgh.

    Your a typical Dumbarse... The ball was tipped in Flight, Clark seen the trajectory , knew he wasn't gonna beat the ball there and When for the Hit. Its called FOOTBALL. If your DBs thought like this your pass D would be all the better for it ! Seems I just seen Crocker bust one of our Receivers like this a couple weeks back... He didn't stay in Cleveland ??? Must have wanted to PLAY FOOTBALL !

    FREAKofSTEEL08 said:

    Your a typical Dumbarse... The ball was tipped in Flight, Clark seen the trajectory , knew he wasn't gonna beat the ball there and When for the Hit. Its called FOOTBALL. If your DBs thought like this your pass D would be all the better for it ! Seems I just seen Crocker bust one of our Receivers like this a couple weeks back... He didn't stay in Cleveland ??? Must have wanted to PLAY FOOTBALL !

    Nah...Clark didn't "see the trajectory and think he wasn't going to get there before the ball." What he saw was an oppurtunity to injure a defenseless receiver after the ball wasn't caught and he thought he could get away with it. And he did. But it's still dirty.

    My point is, Clark knew the pass was going to be incomplete. He made the decision to try and injure Welker anyway.

    There's a fine line between playing dirty and playing hard, and YINZ cross that line with regularity every game.

  • FREAKofSTEEL08 said:

    Your a typical Dumbarse... The ball was tipped in Flight, Clark seen the trajectory , knew he wasn't gonna beat the ball there and When for the Hit. Its called FOOTBALL. If your DBs thought like this your pass D would be all the better for it ! Seems I just seen Crocker bust one of our Receivers like this a couple weeks back... He didn't stay in Cleveland ??? Must have wanted to PLAY FOOTBALL !

    Nah...Clark didn't "see the trajectory and think he wasn't going to get there before the ball." What he saw was an oppurtunity to injure a defenseless receiver after the ball wasn't caught and he thought he could get away with it. And he did. But it's still dirty.

    My point is, Clark knew the pass was going to be incomplete. He made the decision to try and injure Welker anyway.

    There's a fine line between playing dirty and playing hard, and YINZ cross that line with regularity every game.

    @dtbh said:

    Nah...Clark didn't "see the trajectory and think he wasn't going to get there before the ball." What he saw was an oppurtunity to injure a defenseless receiver after the ball wasn't caught and he thought he could get away with it. And he did. But it's still dirty.

    There's a fine line between playing dirty and playing hard, and YINZ cross that line with regularity every game.

    Dude you are a Puzzy.... And need to watch WWF..its all scripted ...nobody will get "Hurt"... These guys KNOW what they signed up for. DEFENSE is "Wicked and mean", dude ...or...its ineffective !!! and btw ...no way..shape or form did Clark "TRY" to injure Welker ! Its called FOOTBALL...a Tight game against a good team and every 1st down counts !

  • Was it unnecessary? Sure...

    Was it a good play? Hell yeah! That is the kind of play the Browns NEVER make...and why other teams run roughshod over the middle of our defense.

    It wasn't to the head....it wasn't late...but it certainly sent the message...and the only message the Browns LB's and DB's are sending is "come on in...waters fine".

    HIT PEOPLE. After a while they don't come over the middle. If they start again. HIT THEM AGAIN!!!

    Be honest...if that was a Browns player laying out a guy from any other team...we would be ooohing and aaahhing for month!!!

  • Was it unnecessary? Sure...

    Was it a good play? Hell yeah! That is the kind of play the Browns NEVER make...and why other teams run roughshod over the middle of our defense.

    It wasn't to the head....it wasn't late...but it certainly sent the message...and the only message the Browns LB's and DB's are sending is "come on in...waters fine".

    HIT PEOPLE. After a while they don't come over the middle. If they start again. HIT THEM AGAIN!!!

    Be honest...if that was a Browns player laying out a guy from any other team...we would be ooohing and aaahhing for month!!!

    @wpb-dawg-fan said:

    Was it unnecessary? Sure...

    Was it a good play? Hell yeah! That is the kind of play the Browns NEVER make...and why other teams run roughshod over the middle of our defense.

    It wasn't to the head....it wasn't late...but it certainly sent the message...and the only message the Browns LB's and DB's are sending is "come on in...waters fine".

    HIT PEOPLE. After a while they don't come over the middle. If they start again. HIT THEM AGAIN!!!

    Be honest...if that was a Browns player laying out a guy from any other team...we would be ooohing and aaahhing for month!!!

    my point exactly. could not agree more

  • Was it unnecessary? Sure...

    Was it a good play? Hell yeah! That is the kind of play the Browns NEVER make...and why other teams run roughshod over the middle of our defense.

    It wasn't to the head....it wasn't late...but it certainly sent the message...and the only message the Browns LB's and DB's are sending is "come on in...waters fine".

    HIT PEOPLE. After a while they don't come over the middle. If they start again. HIT THEM AGAIN!!!

    Be honest...if that was a Browns player laying out a guy from any other team...we would be ooohing and aaahhing for month!!!

    @wpb-dawg-fan said:

    Was it unnecessary? Sure...

    Was it a good play? Hell yeah! That is the kind of play the Browns NEVER make...and why other teams run roughshod over the middle of our defense.

    It wasn't to the head....it wasn't late...but it certainly sent the message...and the only message the Browns LB's and DB's are sending is "come on in...waters fine".

    HIT PEOPLE. After a while they don't come over the middle. If they start again. HIT THEM AGAIN!!!

    Be honest...if that was a Browns player laying out a guy from any other team...we would be ooohing and aaahhing for month!!!

    EXACTLY dude... You are Dead on. Thats my point to that other Guy. If you guys want the Browns D ..to be a Force. They have to instill FEAR in the Opponents ! Only way to do that is to HIT The POOP Outta them. Spin back to the Original Dawg-Pound D ! Them dudes were PRICKS !!! I Hated The Johnson LBS Minnefield...Felix Wright Clay Matthews ! Even Webster Slaughter ooohhh...I Hated them dudes....Slaughter was like Hines Ward a little Punk who ran around making plays and creating Havoc ! Get Mean ...the opponents KNOW its gonna be a Long Day!

  • Was it unnecessary? Sure...

    Was it a good play? Hell yeah! That is the kind of play the Browns NEVER make...and why other teams run roughshod over the middle of our defense.

    It wasn't to the head....it wasn't late...but it certainly sent the message...and the only message the Browns LB's and DB's are sending is "come on in...waters fine".

    HIT PEOPLE. After a while they don't come over the middle. If they start again. HIT THEM AGAIN!!!

    Be honest...if that was a Browns player laying out a guy from any other team...we would be ooohing and aaahhing for month!!!

    @wpb-dawg-fan said:

    Was it unnecessary? Sure...

    Was it a good play? Hell yeah! That is the kind of play the Browns NEVER make...and why other teams run roughshod over the middle of our defense.

    It wasn't to the head....it wasn't late...but it certainly sent the message...and the only message the Browns LB's and DB's are sending is "come on in...waters fine".

    HIT PEOPLE. After a while they don't come over the middle. If they start again. HIT THEM AGAIN!!!

    Be honest...if that was a Browns player laying out a guy from any other team...we would be ooohing and aaahhing for month!!!

    I agree.

    Doesn't mean it wasn't over the line or cheap. As I said when he can lay the wood like that to a TE or larger WR, I won't give him shit. He knew the ball wasn't going to be caught.

    It was a good hit, just not a good clean hit.

  • wonder how long welker was out

  • @buck-the-frowns said:

    Watch the video. Welker's head hits the ground at the same time the ball does. I am sick of hits like this being penalized. As one who watched the Steelers-Browns games in the 70's I can say that if they threw flags on hits like that back then, there would have been penalties on both teams on half the plays. Guys would have paid more than their salary in fines. Maybe they should just tie pink ribbons around QBs and receivers so everyone knows they are not to be hit. Let them play the game. Flag for a late hit but not for good aggressive football. Remember, Turkey Jones' famous sacking of Bradshaw, which fractured his collar bone and put him out for weeks, wasn't even flagged and I don't remember anyone complaining much about it.

    And what is unnecessary roughness anyway? Since it's the Cheatriots, other teams have to be brutal to overcome their espionage, making all roughness necessary. 😆

    Hey, inbred steeler fag. The only thing I have to look forward to in Football the rest of the season is to see you inbreds lose in the playoffs. I hope you make it far, and then lose. It will give me satisfaction.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Hey, inbred steeler fag. The only thing I have to look forward to in Football the rest of the season is to see you inbreds lose in the playoffs. I hope you make it far, and then lose. It will give me satisfaction.

    😆😆 Typical "candy ass" believeland fan.... This is what you do evey year?? ..ISN'T IT JERKOFF!!! Since your pathetic loser franchise never makes the freaking Playoffs , you root against the Team that "bitch slaps" the sorry group of losers you follow as a football team every year ..That is a sure sign of a pathetic loser ..Misery loves company and your sorry ass has been miserable as a Professional Football fan for Decades . 😳 Make sure when you are done reading this , you stand up so you can get some oxygen to your brain ...sitting on it all day like that can cause brain damage ,you freaking "fag"..Now all at once you idiot ..What's that famous "believeland" rant??? "Wait 'til next year " ..yeah , right moron ...the Stains will suck next year too and THAT makes everybody outside of that shithole aka Cleveland, Ohio ---very "satisfied"

  • legal or illegal, i would love to see that kind of hit from someone wearing brown and orange. when was the last time at browns stadium we heard 70k people say "ouch" at the same time and it wasnt one of the brownies on their backs.

    @razor1414 said:

    legal or illegal, i would love to see that kind of hit from someone wearing brown and orange. when was the last time at browns stadium we heard 70k people say "ouch" at the same time and it wasnt one of the brownies on their backs.

    I believe it was when Brian Russell laid out Chad "Ocho Cinco" Johnson.

  • @buck-the-frowns said:

    Watch the video. Welker's head hits the ground at the same time the ball does. I am sick of hits like this being penalized. As one who watched the Steelers-Browns games in the 70's I can say that if they threw flags on hits like that back then, there would have been penalties on both teams on half the plays. Guys would have paid more than their salary in fines. Maybe they should just tie pink ribbons around QBs and receivers so everyone knows they are not to be hit. Let them play the game. Flag for a late hit but not for good aggressive football. Remember, Turkey Jones' famous sacking of Bradshaw, which fractured his collar bone and put him out for weeks, wasn't even flagged and I don't remember anyone complaining much about it.

    And what is unnecessary roughness anyway? Since it's the Cheatriots, other teams have to be brutal to overcome their espionage, making all roughness necessary. 😆

    Hey, inbred steeler fag. The only thing I have to look forward to in Football the rest of the season is to see you inbreds lose in the playoffs. I hope you make it far, and then lose. It will give me satisfaction.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Hey, inbred steeler fag. The only thing I have to look forward to in Football the rest of the season is to see you inbreds lose in the playoffs. I hope you make it far, and then lose. It will give me satisfaction.

    Sounds like it may be the only thing you have to look forward to the rest of your sad pathetic life, you impoverished maternal fornicator. I am not a "fag", though I guess it is a kind of gay voyeurism when I watch the Browns get a new one ripped twice a year by the Steelers. Your Santorum runs as red as Heinz ketchup.

    Tell me, when they fire Crennel the day after the Steelers game later this month, will they get rid of the whole staff or will they keep the team gynecologist?

  • League already said the hit was clean.

    This was good old fashion football. Good thing you guys aren't watching the game 40 years ago, you'd say every hit was cheap.

    Sure it was a bit unecessary, I'm sure Tomlin is telling Clark that next time he should hit Wes, just "not so hard"

    Im sure Wes is a nice guy don't hurt him!!!! If any safety on your team could/would hit this hard, you'd love it.

    You pansies are unreal.

  • @buck-the-frowns said:

    Watch the video. Welker's head hits the ground at the same time the ball does. I am sick of hits like this being penalized. As one who watched the Steelers-Browns games in the 70's I can say that if they threw flags on hits like that back then, there would have been penalties on both teams on half the plays. Guys would have paid more than their salary in fines. Maybe they should just tie pink ribbons around QBs and receivers so everyone knows they are not to be hit. Let them play the game. Flag for a late hit but not for good aggressive football. Remember, Turkey Jones' famous sacking of Bradshaw, which fractured his collar bone and put him out for weeks, wasn't even flagged and I don't remember anyone complaining much about it.

    And what is unnecessary roughness anyway? Since it's the Cheatriots, other teams have to be brutal to overcome their espionage, making all roughness necessary. 😆

    Hey, inbred steeler fag. The only thing I have to look forward to in Football the rest of the season is to see you inbreds lose in the playoffs. I hope you make it far, and then lose. It will give me satisfaction.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Hey, inbred steeler fag. The only thing I have to look forward to in Football the rest of the season is to see you inbreds lose in the playoffs. I hope you make it far, and then lose. It will give me satisfaction.

    It'll be a sad day when all I have to look forward to is another team losing.

    Wow, that'll be painfully embaressing.

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Hey, inbred steeler fag. The only thing I have to look forward to in Football the rest of the season is to see you inbreds lose in the playoffs. I hope you make it far, and then lose. It will give me satisfaction.

    It'll be a sad day when all I have to look forward to is another team losing.

    Wow, that'll be painfully embaressing.

    @da-burgh said:

    It'll be a sad day when all I have to look forward to is another team losing.

    Wow, that'll be painfully embaressing.

    Quit while you're behind, DieHard. You just got owned by a guy who can't even spell.

  • League already said the hit was clean.

    This was good old fashion football. Good thing you guys aren't watching the game 40 years ago, you'd say every hit was cheap.

    Sure it was a bit unecessary, I'm sure Tomlin is telling Clark that next time he should hit Wes, just "not so hard"

    Im sure Wes is a nice guy don't hurt him!!!! If any safety on your team could/would hit this hard, you'd love it.

    You pansies are unreal.

    @da-burgh said:

    League already said the hit was clean.

    This was good old fashion football. Good thing you guys aren't watching the game 40 years ago, you'd say every hit was cheap.

    Sure it was a bit unecessary, I'm sure Tomlin is telling Clark that next time he should hit Wes, just "not so hard"

    Im sure Wes is a nice guy don't hurt him!!!! If any safety on your team could/would hit this hard, you've love it.

    You pansies are unreal.

    How about you post the clip on your board, and if we want to come over and see how amazing your safety is, we will.

  • @da-burgh said:

    League already said the hit was clean.

    This was good old fashion football. Good thing you guys aren't watching the game 40 years ago, you'd say every hit was cheap.

    Sure it was a bit unecessary, I'm sure Tomlin is telling Clark that next time he should hit Wes, just "not so hard"

    Im sure Wes is a nice guy don't hurt him!!!! If any safety on your team could/would hit this hard, you've love it.

    You pansies are unreal.

    How about you post the clip on your board, and if we want to come over and see how amazing your safety is, we will.

    @legacy-fan said:

    How about you post the clip on your board, and if we want to come over and see how amazing your safety is, we will.

    Quit whining dude... If its not of Interest to you IGNORE the post ! That will KILL IT !