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  • DawgTracker D
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    D DawgTracker wrote on last edited by
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    I've seen Heyward play quite a few times, he would seem to be a great fit for our team. We could be going QB on that first pick if the team isn't satisfied with Colt's potential

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      WRREBELW WRREBEL wrote on last edited by
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      I totaly agree we need to find some rushers on dline and also a playmaker lb. The thing is we are real close to having a real good d. We need two lbs and a dominant de and were there. That's 3 players..

      I'm stoke we play detriot this weekend. I hopee we have a solid showing in our dress rehearsal

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        GipsG Gips wrote on last edited by Gips
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        Im still hoping we can pull a rabbit out of the hat instead of throwing the whole hat at the opposition this year as far as a pass rush is concerned..a second late and a sack short sucks especially CB blitzes particularly when it leaves abram " delayed reaction" elam or mike "i think im lost" adams or brandon 'where am i" mcdonald in man coverage with even a slug with bad hands, it quickly becomes a potentially dangerous situation with a minimal of an almost assured catch...

        We have a serious nickel and secondary quality depth problem in general along with a problem disguising coverages/blitzes as the rams revealed.. lets hope its just preseason vanilla because if its not we could opportunistically get burned at just the right time all year...

        We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!
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          Im still hoping we can pull a rabbit out of the hat instead of throwing the whole hat at the opposition this year as far as a pass rush is concerned..a second late and a sack short sucks especially CB blitzes particularly when it leaves abram " delayed reaction" elam or mike "i think im lost" adams or brandon 'where am i" mcdonald in man coverage with even a slug with bad hands, it quickly becomes a potentially dangerous situation with a minimal of an almost assured catch...

          We have a serious nickel and secondary quality depth problem in general along with a problem disguising coverages/blitzes as the rams revealed.. lets hope its just preseason vanilla because if its not we could opportunistically get burned at just the right time all year...

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          B bomber77 wrote on last edited by
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          @gips said:

          Im still hoping we can pull a rabbit out of the hat instead of throwing the whole hat at the opposition this year as far as a pass rush is concerned..a second late and a sack short sucks especially CB blitzes particularly when it leaves abram " delayed reaction" elam or mike "i think im lost" adams or brandon 'where am i" mcdonald in man coverage with even a slug with bad hands, it quickly becomes a potentially dangerous situation with a minimal of an almost assured catch...

          We have a serious nickel and secondary quality depth problem in general along with a problem disguising coverages/blitzes as the rams revealed.. lets hope its just preseason vanilla because if its not we could opportunistically get burned at just the right time all year...

          From what Ive seen our secondary imo is as deep as its been in years. Wright, Brown, Haden, McDonald, Adams, Ward, Ventrone, Abrams have all looked good to me so far. I think when the entire Dline is starting that our LBs will provide a better pass rush than we see now. Still a weak point for us though along with WR. I dont understand why we didnt look harder at some free agent or draftable WR's. Carlton Mitchel has shown me nothing yet. I thought BR should have layed out for that TD pass the other night too. So far Stucky has looked better than anyone and thats a problem.

          "You dont have to like your coaching staff, just love your team "
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            TheClevelandSoundT TheClevelandSound wrote on last edited by
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            Cameron Heyward...execpt usually OSU players suck in the NFL so im not so sure.

            Predicted Records:2010: 8-82011: 8-82012: 9-72013: 5-112014: 6-10
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              BrownsBacker85B BrownsBacker85 wrote on last edited by
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              Yes we will need to find playmakers next year but our pass rush will be fine this year. Improved secondary play will help in that department. Don't forget we had 40 sacks last year and are only improved in all defensive positions.

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              • BrownsBacker85B BrownsBacker85

                Yes we will need to find playmakers next year but our pass rush will be fine this year. Improved secondary play will help in that department. Don't forget we had 40 sacks last year and are only improved in all defensive positions.

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                slowburnS slowburn wrote on last edited by slowburn
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                @brownsbacker85 said:

                Yes we will need to find playmakers next year but our pass rush will be fine this year. Improved secondary play will help in that department. Don't forget we had 40 sacks last year and are only improved in all defensive positions.

                While 40 sacks is nothin to sneeze at, the Browns still finished near the bottom of total team defense last year in terms of passing and rushing yards relinquished. i think age is an important consideration when

                evaluating our line. A great majority of our d line is at or above 30 years old....In no way are they washed up but you got to consider a push on gettting some young talent up and running. As is, i don't think

                we have a legit playmaker on our d line. I hope i am proven wrong in a big way

                Just throwing it out there

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                • TheClevelandSoundT TheClevelandSound

                  Cameron Heyward...execpt usually OSU players suck in the NFL so im not so sure.

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                  Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
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                  @theclevelandsound said:

                  Cameron Heyward...execpt usually OSU players suck in the NFL so im not so sure.

                  Wow, you can't be serious.

                  While there have been some Buckeyes who didn't live up to expectations (Archie Griffin, Art Schlichter, for instance), many Buckeyes have represented well in the NFL.

                  I'm not concerned with 2011's draft at this time, just surprised to see a comment like that.

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                  • TheClevelandSoundT TheClevelandSound

                    Cameron Heyward...execpt usually OSU players suck in the NFL so im not so sure.

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                    miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                    @theclevelandsound said:

                    Cameron Heyward...execpt usually OSU players suck in the NFL so im not so sure.

                    yeah that's way oof base. osu usually put out some of the best players in the nfl period.

                    NFL Draft selections

                    Total selected: 329

                    First picks in draft: 3

                    1st Round: 68

                    NFL achievements

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                    In the Super Bowl: 54

                    Hall of Famers: 7

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                      @theclevelandsound said:

                      Cameron Heyward...execpt usually OSU players suck in the NFL so im not so sure.

                      yeah that's way oof base. osu usually put out some of the best players in the nfl period.

                      NFL Draft selections

                      Total selected: 329

                      First picks in draft: 3

                      1st Round: 68

                      NFL achievements

                      Total Players: 308

                      In the Super Bowl: 54

                      Hall of Famers: 7

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                      @miktoxic said:

                      yeah that's way oof base. osu usually put out some of the best players in the nfl period.

                      NFL Draft selections

                      Total selected: 329

                      First picks in draft: 3

                      1st Round: 68

                      NFL achievements

                      Total Players: 308

                      In the Super Bowl: 54

                      Hall of Famers: 7

                      Yeah - OSU player really have sucked...

                      Eddie George

                      Orlando Pace

                      Joey Galloway

                      Dante Lavelli

                      Pete Johnson

                      LeCharles Bentley (until the knee)

                      Jim Marshall

                      Pepper Johnson

                      Mike Vrabel

                      Will Smith

                      Shawn Springs

                      Antoine Winfield

                      Jack Tatum

                      Paul Warfield

                      A.J. Hawk

                      Keith Byars

                      Bill Willis

                      Chris Spielman

                      Need more proof?

                      CHANGE IS GOOD
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                      • Canton Mike Canton MikeC
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                        Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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                        When Rogers comes back, hopefully at DE (my opinion), our pass rush will be blessed with IMMEDIATE improvement. One guy, & usually 2, CANNOT block him. That frees up a lot of options & opportunities to get in the opposition's backfield.

                        Mike

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                        • TheClevelandSoundT TheClevelandSound

                          Cameron Heyward...execpt usually OSU players suck in the NFL so im not so sure.

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                          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                          @theclevelandsound said:

                          Cameron Heyward...execpt usually OSU players suck in the NFL so im not so sure.

                          Really? If OSU players suck in the NFL then why is OSU like 3rd on the list of most graduates that have made the Pro Football Hall of Fame with maybe a couple of others on the way, like Chris Carter for sure, Orlando Pace. It might also behoove you to look at the Pro Bowl rosters and see where those guys went to school.

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                            @miktoxic said:

                            yeah that's way oof base. osu usually put out some of the best players in the nfl period.

                            NFL Draft selections

                            Total selected: 329

                            First picks in draft: 3

                            1st Round: 68

                            NFL achievements

                            Total Players: 308

                            In the Super Bowl: 54

                            Hall of Famers: 7

                            Yeah - OSU player really have sucked...

                            Eddie George

                            Orlando Pace

                            Joey Galloway

                            Dante Lavelli

                            Pete Johnson

                            LeCharles Bentley (until the knee)

                            Jim Marshall

                            Pepper Johnson

                            Mike Vrabel

                            Will Smith

                            Shawn Springs

                            Antoine Winfield

                            Jack Tatum

                            Paul Warfield

                            A.J. Hawk

                            Keith Byars

                            Bill Willis

                            Chris Spielman

                            Need more proof?

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                            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                            @squintz said:

                            Yeah - OSU player really have sucked...

                            Eddie George

                            Orlando Pace

                            Joey Galloway

                            Dante Lavelli

                            Pete Johnson

                            LeCharles Bentley (until the knee)

                            Jim Marshall

                            Pepper Johnson

                            Mike Vrabel

                            Will Smith

                            Shawn Springs

                            Antoine Winfield

                            Jack Tatum

                            Paul Warfield

                            A.J. Hawk

                            Keith Byars

                            Bill Willis

                            Chris Spielman

                            Need more proof?

                            If he does, here it is. OSU players with number of Pro Bowls:

                            Tony Adamle 2

                            Todd Bell 1

                            David Boston 1

                            John Brockington 3

                            Fred Bruny 3

                            Nate Clements 1

                            Chris Carter 8

                            Mike Current 1

                            Tom DeLeone 2

                            Dave Foley 1

                            Tim Fox 1

                            Doug France 1

                            Shaun Gayle 1

                            Eddie George 4

                            Horace Gillom 1

                            Terry Glenn 1

                            Randy Gradishar 7

                            Lou Groza 9

                            Jim Houston 4

                            Tommy James 1

                            Pepper Johnson 2

                            Pete Johnson 1

                            Tom Kean 1

                            Jim Lachey 3

                            Dick LeBeau 3

                            Nick Mangold 2

                            Jim Marshall 1

                            Tom Matte 2

                            Fred Morrison 1

                            Jim Otis 1

                            Orlando Pace 7

                            Jim Parker 8

                            William Roberts 1

                            Dick Shafrath 6

                            Bob Shaw 1

                            Tom Skladany 1

                            Robert Smith 2

                            Will Smith 1

                            Matt Snell 3

                            Chris Spielman 4

                            Shawn Springs 1

                            Korey Stringer 1

                            Jack Tatum 3

                            Jim Tyrer 9

                            Dick Van Raphorst 1

                            Bob Vogel 5

                            Mike Vrabel 1

                            Paul Warfield 8

                            Bill Willis 3

                            Antoine Winfield 3

                            Ernie Wright 1

                            Gust Zarnas 1

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                              S SJ_Browns wrote on last edited by SJ_Browns
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                              imho, you shouldn't get too high or too low about what you see during preseason games. i don't think the browns d is going to look like this when the games count. it would be best to wait until the games matter and see how the d is then. i seriously doubt rr is going to show much before the season opener.

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                                @miktoxic said:

                                yeah that's way oof base. osu usually put out some of the best players in the nfl period.

                                NFL Draft selections

                                Total selected: 329

                                First picks in draft: 3

                                1st Round: 68

                                NFL achievements

                                Total Players: 308

                                In the Super Bowl: 54

                                Hall of Famers: 7

                                Yeah - OSU player really have sucked...

                                Eddie George

                                Orlando Pace

                                Joey Galloway

                                Dante Lavelli

                                Pete Johnson

                                LeCharles Bentley (until the knee)

                                Jim Marshall

                                Pepper Johnson

                                Mike Vrabel

                                Will Smith

                                Shawn Springs

                                Antoine Winfield

                                Jack Tatum

                                Paul Warfield

                                A.J. Hawk

                                Keith Byars

                                Bill Willis

                                Chris Spielman

                                Need more proof?

                                SJ_Browns S
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                                S SJ_Browns wrote on last edited by SJ_Browns
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                                @squintz said:

                                Yeah - OSU player really have sucked...

                                Eddie George

                                Orlando Pace

                                Joey Galloway

                                Dante Lavelli

                                Pete Johnson

                                LeCharles Bentley (until the knee)

                                Jim Marshall

                                Pepper Johnson

                                Mike Vrabel

                                Will Smith

                                Shawn Springs

                                Antoine Winfield

                                Jack Tatum

                                Paul Warfield

                                A.J. Hawk

                                Keith Byars

                                Bill Willis

                                Chris Spielman

                                Need more proof?

                                yeah, doing a little research before making a bold statement never hurts.

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