Trade for Houshmanzadeh, possible?
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mikeyP72 said:
Especially if Robo is a dud and doesn't shape up. We can cut him, sign Housh, cut our losses and draft a better WR down the line. But MoMass, Housh, Stuckey, Cribbs and Engram would be viable.You are nuts. They aren't going to cut Robiskie just to sign Housh. If that doesn't happen immediately, Housh won't be available. And they aren't going to cut Robiskie after the great offseason he's had.
You are nuts. They aren't going to cut Robiskie just to sign Housh. If that doesn't happen immediately, Housh won't be available. And they aren't going to cut Robiskie after the great offseason he's had.
Ask Leinart how his offseason went. It went great, then came the games and.... he was cut. Just sayin'...
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You are nuts. They aren't going to cut Robiskie just to sign Housh. If that doesn't happen immediately, Housh won't be available. And they aren't going to cut Robiskie after the great offseason he's had.
Ask Leinart how his offseason went. It went great, then came the games and.... he was cut. Just sayin'...
Ask Leinart how his offseason went. It went great, then came the games and.... he was cut. Just sayin'...
According to whom? Leinart? Stop being ridiculous.
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Why is everybody obsessed with developing young players. These undrafted and late round pics you want to develop more than likely wont cut it. Everybody wanted to develop Alex Hall, Beau Bell, Martin Rucker etc. etc are they even in the league anymore....... Why not get a capable guy that can contribute until we use a early round pick to fill the position or somebody develops how there supposed to. Guys that people talk about developing wont get playing time anyway, so who exactly would these proven vets be taking playing time from?
Why is everybody obsessed with developing young players. These undrafted and late round pics you want to develop more than likely wont cut it. Everybody wanted to develop Alex Hall, Beau Bell, Martin Rucker etc. etc are they even in the league anymore....... Why not get a capable guy that can contribute until we use a early round pick to fill the position or somebody develops how there supposed to. Guys that people talk about developing wont get playing time anyway, so who exactly would these proven vets be taking playing time from?
We aren't talking about guys like Alex Hall, Martin Rucker, Carlton Mitchell, et. al.
We are talking about guys like Massaquoi, Robiskie, and Stuckey.
And nothing ruins good team chemistry, which the Browns seem to have, more than a locker room Cancer, which Housh is from all accounts.
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Why is everybody obsessed with developing young players. These undrafted and late round pics you want to develop more than likely wont cut it. Everybody wanted to develop Alex Hall, Beau Bell, Martin Rucker etc. etc are they even in the league anymore....... Why not get a capable guy that can contribute until we use a early round pick to fill the position or somebody develops how there supposed to. Guys that people talk about developing wont get playing time anyway, so who exactly would these proven vets be taking playing time from?
We aren't talking about guys like Alex Hall, Martin Rucker, Carlton Mitchell, et. al.
We are talking about guys like Massaquoi, Robiskie, and Stuckey.
And nothing ruins good team chemistry, which the Browns seem to have, more than a locker room Cancer, which Housh is from all accounts.
We aren't talking about guys like Alex Hall, Martin Rucker, Carlton Mitchell, et. al.
We are talking about guys like Massaquoi, Robiskie, and Stuckey.
And nothing ruins good team chemistry, which the Browns seem to have, more than a locker room Cancer, which Housh is from all accounts.
Im not talking about just housh, every vet that come's available get's shot down. These guys wouldn't be brought in to take reps away from our young guys that have shown they can get it done. You bring them in for depth, 3rd, 4th guys, injury insurance. Jarvis Green sounds like some good depth on the D-line to me, why not add him. We need depth at WR, I dont who else is available there but I know Cincy released Dez Briscoe today, Im hoping we bring him in on the practice squad. Justin Hartwig wouldn't be a bad backup at C/G. Good teams add these type guys, you cant do it all with young unproven players
1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico -
Could be a Great Fit in The Browns system Lets Take him.
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mikeyP72 said:
Especially if Robo is a dud and doesn't shape up. We can cut him, sign Housh, cut our losses and draft a better WR down the line. But MoMass, Housh, Stuckey, Cribbs and Engram would be viable.You are nuts. They aren't going to cut Robiskie just to sign Housh. If that doesn't happen immediately, Housh won't be available. And they aren't going to cut Robiskie after the great offseason he's had.
You are nuts. They aren't going to cut Robiskie just to sign Housh. If that doesn't happen immediately, Housh won't be available. And they aren't going to cut Robiskie after the great offseason he's had.
Yeah, because great preseason is the tell tail sign of a great career. Keep your OSU bias out of your comments and your opinion might change.
once a fan, always a fan. married to a steeler fan. aaaaaaaaah! --andy -
Does anyone else see a connection in the delay of the release of our cuts and a possible acquisition of TJ?
BTW Myron Rolle was just cut. Lets take him! We need depth at Safety.
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We aren't talking about guys like Alex Hall, Martin Rucker, Carlton Mitchell, et. al.
We are talking about guys like Massaquoi, Robiskie, and Stuckey.
And nothing ruins good team chemistry, which the Browns seem to have, more than a locker room Cancer, which Housh is from all accounts.
Im not talking about just housh, every vet that come's available get's shot down. These guys wouldn't be brought in to take reps away from our young guys that have shown they can get it done. You bring them in for depth, 3rd, 4th guys, injury insurance. Jarvis Green sounds like some good depth on the D-line to me, why not add him. We need depth at WR, I dont who else is available there but I know Cincy released Dez Briscoe today, Im hoping we bring him in on the practice squad. Justin Hartwig wouldn't be a bad backup at C/G. Good teams add these type guys, you cant do it all with young unproven players
Im not talking about just housh, every vet that come's available get's shot down. These guys wouldn't be brought in to take reps away from our young guys that have shown they can get it done. You bring them in for depth, 3rd, 4th guys, injury insurance. Jarvis Green sounds like some good depth on the D-line to me, why not add him. We need depth at WR, I dont who else is available there but I know Cincy released Dez Briscoe today, Im hoping we bring him in on the practice squad. Justin Hartwig wouldn't be a bad backup at C/G. Good teams add these type guys, you cant do it all with young unproven players
Because the "proven vets" Hooshie, Barber, you name it- aren't going to want to waste the few remaining productive years they have going to a rebuild project- take the rose colored glasses off, and admit that's exactly what the Browns are. Yeah, let's bring in every washed up (or 1\2 washed up) vet and become the Nouveau Washington Redskins "Over the Hill Gang"- George Allen tried that once, and here's a big hint- it didn't work.
BTW, if Carroll cut Hooshie and is bringing in Williams that should tell you all you need to know- the guy is shotso.
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Im not talking about just housh, every vet that come's available get's shot down. These guys wouldn't be brought in to take reps away from our young guys that have shown they can get it done. You bring them in for depth, 3rd, 4th guys, injury insurance. Jarvis Green sounds like some good depth on the D-line to me, why not add him. We need depth at WR, I dont who else is available there but I know Cincy released Dez Briscoe today, Im hoping we bring him in on the practice squad. Justin Hartwig wouldn't be a bad backup at C/G. Good teams add these type guys, you cant do it all with young unproven players
Because the "proven vets" Hooshie, Barber, you name it- aren't going to want to waste the few remaining productive years they have going to a rebuild project- take the rose colored glasses off, and admit that's exactly what the Browns are. Yeah, let's bring in every washed up (or 1\2 washed up) vet and become the Nouveau Washington Redskins "Over the Hill Gang"- George Allen tried that once, and here's a big hint- it didn't work.
BTW, if Carroll cut Hooshie and is bringing in Williams that should tell you all you need to know- the guy is shotso.
Because the "proven vets" Hooshie, Barber, you name it- aren't going to want to waste the few remaining productive years they have going to a rebuild project- take the rose colored glasses off, and admit that's exactly what the Browns are. Yeah, let's bring in every washed up (or 1\2 washed up) vet and become the Nouveau Washington Redskins "Over the Hill Gang"- George Allen tried that once, and here's a big hint- it didn't work.
BTW, if Carroll cut Hooshie and is bringing in Williams that should tell you all you need to know- the guy is shotso.
George Allen did win a superbowl with the "over the hill gang" so shut up. And I would like to say, if we get housh, a nice veteran receiver, it'll be a nice complement to our young but talented receivers.
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Im not talking about just housh, every vet that come's available get's shot down. These guys wouldn't be brought in to take reps away from our young guys that have shown they can get it done. You bring them in for depth, 3rd, 4th guys, injury insurance. Jarvis Green sounds like some good depth on the D-line to me, why not add him. We need depth at WR, I dont who else is available there but I know Cincy released Dez Briscoe today, Im hoping we bring him in on the practice squad. Justin Hartwig wouldn't be a bad backup at C/G. Good teams add these type guys, you cant do it all with young unproven players
Because the "proven vets" Hooshie, Barber, you name it- aren't going to want to waste the few remaining productive years they have going to a rebuild project- take the rose colored glasses off, and admit that's exactly what the Browns are. Yeah, let's bring in every washed up (or 1\2 washed up) vet and become the Nouveau Washington Redskins "Over the Hill Gang"- George Allen tried that once, and here's a big hint- it didn't work.
BTW, if Carroll cut Hooshie and is bringing in Williams that should tell you all you need to know- the guy is shotso.
Because the "proven vets" Hooshie, Barber, you name it- aren't going to want to waste the few remaining productive years they have going to a rebuild project- take the rose colored glasses off, and admit that's exactly what the Browns are.
That may be the case buts it no reason not to want some of them. They may or may not wanna come her, but you gotta try. And I'm not looking for guys to replace players like Robiskie, MoMass, Rubin. Im talking a vet willing to back some of these guys up, that can come in and be serviceable if thrust into a role.
BTW, if Carroll cut Hooshie and is bringing in Williams that should tell you all you need to know- the guy is shotso.
or it could be so they can give Vincent Jackson the big payday he's looking for. I dont think he's done, he just doesn't have anything around him.
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Zombo said:
Wow. This really is a bad day for Shep. Mike Williams was the one "bust" he always reminded me about. Now he is getting promoted to the first team on the same day his sweetheart Leinart is getting cut. Let's hope the Broncos don't put a merciful end to Brady Quinn's career, Shep may be on suicide watch....Zombo
I just went over to the other place, gave Shep a loaded gun and politely asked him if he wanted to use it. Actually, I revoked his qb card. 
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Give it a rest guys- like I said earlier- we aren't overpaying for vets- and they're going to look at winning teams- or a ton of money first before they'll play in Cleveland.
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You are nuts. They aren't going to cut Robiskie just to sign Housh. If that doesn't happen immediately, Housh won't be available. And they aren't going to cut Robiskie after the great offseason he's had.
Yeah, because great preseason is the tell tail sign of a great career. Keep your OSU bias out of your comments and your opinion might change.
Yeah, because great preseason is the tell tail sign of a great career. Keep your OSU bias out of your comments and your opinion might change.
Shut the F up dude. Seriously. It isn't OSU bias to want to give a 2nd year WR a chance to prove he can play. Especially by all accounts he's finally "getting it" this year. How else are we to analyze him in his sophomore year other than by this year's offseason? If the player is no good, I don't care if he's from OSU. But you don't just throw away a player who has tons of potential, looks good, because some aging vet becomes available. That's idiotic.
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mikeyP72 said:
Thaak what are you talking about? I have seen little production out of Robo and I was a huge fan of picking him. If he can't produce this year, it's time to cut him loose. Some other people made some very valid points - and since when has Housh been known to be a locker room cancer? Are you making that up? Link?Sure, AFTER next preseason maybe.
Why do I have to provide a link? If you haven't been paying attention to NFL news in the last 2 years, then that isn't my fault.
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I have a feeling Housh will be signing with the Redskins, they need another WR. Remember he wasnt cut becuase of lack of talent he was cut because of saving money in the end. The skins always have some kind of money left.
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mikeyP72 said:
I have been, I'm saying it doesn't exist or is marginal at best. Provide a link to back up your point.Go check out PFT archives. Florio's been talking about it and providing his own source links from Bengals and Seahawks beat writers. I'm not going to spend the time to go back and find the links. I have better things to do than to satisfy your need for proof when someone presents you with information you don't want to believe.
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I can't believe anyone would be mad at getting tj. First who ever said he wouldn't want to come to the browns iis an idiot. The guy can will only sign a 1 year deal for league minium making it a contract year for him. He will want a chance to play and put up numbers.
If he is too old no risk cause of the money vested. You can't tell me he isn't better than someome on our team.
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"sigh". I'm with Thaak.
This only took ten seconds, fer cryin out loud.
Hous doesn't fit the team player mold that Holgrem, Heckert and Mangini are adamant about maintaining.
And it shows in the Browns play - they play as a TEAM. It's exciting to watch.
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TJ Houshmandzadeh: Passion or Cancer? Problems Beginning in Sea-Town?
By Lars Hanson (Correspondent) on October 18, 2009 0
Seahawks PhotosThe Seahawks biggest off season acquisition, wide receiver TJ Houshmandzadeh who signed a five year $40 million dollar contract this past off season has been known for, in the past few weeks, speaking out against the Seahawks coaching staff and players calling for the ball.
In a sense it's like Terrell Owens yelling at Tony Romo or Donovan McNabb saying "I'm not getting the ball and that's why we lose."
Since being signed back in early March TJ has been a complete team player never yapping to the media or being a potential cancer to the Seahawks locker room.
However since the Seahawks-Bears game in week three when he went on the radio saying "the Bears overlooked me in free agency so I'll have to show them up this week" and "the Bears have a weak pass coverage so I'll show them it was a mistake not showing interest in me in the off season".
How did he do against the Bears?
Four receptions, 35 yards, zero touchdowns receptions and the worst statistical game in his short Seahawks career.
So of course next week he becomes "stand office" and doesn't call out anyone and what happens?
He records his first 100 yard game as a Seattle Seahawk. Eight receptions for 103 yards and zero touchdowns.
Here is one of his comments via ESPN.com before the Jacksonville Jaguars game.
"I just got to get these coaches to realize, throw me the ball," Houshmandzadeh said Friday, another variation on a public request he's had for weeks."
Calling out the coaching staff and your quarterback (not Matt Hasselbeck) is never the right thing to do when your head coach said you were a great team player and would fit right into the great locker room.
Well that hasn't exactly played out as well as the Seahawks front office and coaching staff thought it would.
It seems like ever since his vocal lashing at Madden 2010 for his player ratings being so low and having a few "lies and false stats". TJ Who's-yo-mama has not been the same.
Here is one of many comments from TJ on the Madden ratings.
So, the question at hand: Is TJ Houshmandzadeh's comments and recent actions passion for the game and wanting to make the team better by having him perform or is it the beginning of a cancer problem in the locker room.
However TJ has so far preformed well in his first five games as a Seattle Seahawk.
27 receptions, 327 yards, two touchdowns and four 20+ yard receptions. According to ESPN.com projections TJ is in line for 86 receptions, 1,040 yards and six touchdown receptions.
However, he just got his prime time quarterback Matt Hasselbeck back after missing three straight games. When Matt is playing the Seahawks have won 69-0 this season.
It will be interesting to see his next set of comments or if the current ones will pay off.
You can follow Lars at Twitter http://twitter.com/larshanson
This article was origionally posted on NFLtouchdown.com by Lars Hanson.
http://www.nfltouchdown.com/tj-houshmandza...ng-in-sea-town/
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"sigh". I'm with Thaak.
This only took ten seconds, fer cryin out loud.
Hous doesn't fit the team player mold that Holgrem, Heckert and Mangini are adamant about maintaining.
And it shows in the Browns play - they play as a TEAM. It's exciting to watch.
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TJ Houshmandzadeh: Passion or Cancer? Problems Beginning in Sea-Town?
By Lars Hanson (Correspondent) on October 18, 2009 0
Seahawks PhotosThe Seahawks biggest off season acquisition, wide receiver TJ Houshmandzadeh who signed a five year $40 million dollar contract this past off season has been known for, in the past few weeks, speaking out against the Seahawks coaching staff and players calling for the ball.
In a sense it's like Terrell Owens yelling at Tony Romo or Donovan McNabb saying "I'm not getting the ball and that's why we lose."
Since being signed back in early March TJ has been a complete team player never yapping to the media or being a potential cancer to the Seahawks locker room.
However since the Seahawks-Bears game in week three when he went on the radio saying "the Bears overlooked me in free agency so I'll have to show them up this week" and "the Bears have a weak pass coverage so I'll show them it was a mistake not showing interest in me in the off season".
How did he do against the Bears?
Four receptions, 35 yards, zero touchdowns receptions and the worst statistical game in his short Seahawks career.
So of course next week he becomes "stand office" and doesn't call out anyone and what happens?
He records his first 100 yard game as a Seattle Seahawk. Eight receptions for 103 yards and zero touchdowns.
Here is one of his comments via ESPN.com before the Jacksonville Jaguars game.
"I just got to get these coaches to realize, throw me the ball," Houshmandzadeh said Friday, another variation on a public request he's had for weeks."
Calling out the coaching staff and your quarterback (not Matt Hasselbeck) is never the right thing to do when your head coach said you were a great team player and would fit right into the great locker room.
Well that hasn't exactly played out as well as the Seahawks front office and coaching staff thought it would.
It seems like ever since his vocal lashing at Madden 2010 for his player ratings being so low and having a few "lies and false stats". TJ Who's-yo-mama has not been the same.
Here is one of many comments from TJ on the Madden ratings.
So, the question at hand: Is TJ Houshmandzadeh's comments and recent actions passion for the game and wanting to make the team better by having him perform or is it the beginning of a cancer problem in the locker room.
However TJ has so far preformed well in his first five games as a Seattle Seahawk.
27 receptions, 327 yards, two touchdowns and four 20+ yard receptions. According to ESPN.com projections TJ is in line for 86 receptions, 1,040 yards and six touchdown receptions.
However, he just got his prime time quarterback Matt Hasselbeck back after missing three straight games. When Matt is playing the Seahawks have won 69-0 this season.
It will be interesting to see his next set of comments or if the current ones will pay off.
You can follow Lars at Twitter http://twitter.com/larshanson
This article was origionally posted on NFLtouchdown.com by Lars Hanson.
http://www.nfltouchdown.com/tj-houshmandza...ng-in-sea-town/
"sigh". I'm with Thaak.
This only took ten seconds, fer cryin out loud.
Hous doesn't fit the team player mold that Holgrem, Heckert and Mangini are adamant about maintaining.
And it shows in the Browns play - they play as a TEAM. It's exciting to watch.
Thanks Cal. I just didn't have the energy to pander to these punks who immediately think someone is telling a lie because they can't (or won't because its all months old stuff) produce a link.
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Just signed a 1 year deal with the damn Ravens. Per ESPN.COM
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