Officials & Squeelers
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Lum, go away. Why are you here? This isnt a Pac-10 board.
As to the topic at hand, the halftime guys for Sunday Night Football unanimously agreed that there was no way the call on the field should have been overturned. Here is PFT's take:
In a stunning replay ruling that will make referee Walt “Tuck Rule” Coleman roughly as popular in Baltimore as he is in Oakland, the Steelers received a late touchdown on a play in which it appeared to be fairly clear that the ball was not in the end zone at the time Santonio Holmes acquired possession of it.
The ruling on the field was that the ball did not break the plane of the end zone once Holmes caught it. And this means that the call should have been overturned only with conclusive visual evidence — as Seahawks coach Mike Holmgren once explained it, 50 drunks in a bar would all have to agree — that it was a touchdown.
Sorry, Steelers fans. It wasn’t a touchdown.
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Victory in the REFS from what I am reading, can't say for myself, cause I did not watch it!
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And the steeler pukes come out in force trying to explain how everybody under the sun that watched the game today is wrong and that was a legit game and a legit call. LMFAO you guys are blind and stupid if you believe that. Ofcourse if it was my team I wouldnt want to believe they was a bunch of cheaters either but the rest of the world can see the truth. The Rooneys being involed in gambling makes perfect sense. Only way to explain the bull shit calls I have seen watching steeler games. The refs were bought and paid for, no doubt about it, you guys coming on here and trying to explain it away does nothing. Anybody that watched that game knows that was a bullshit call. Two booth reviews, both unmistakably wrong and both in favor for the steelers. Ya that game wasnt rigged.
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And the steeler pukes come out in force trying to explain how everybody under the sun that watched the game today is wrong and that was a legit game and a legit call. LMFAO you guys are blind and stupid if you believe that. Ofcourse if it was my team I wouldnt want to believe they was a bunch of cheaters either but the rest of the world can see the truth. The Rooneys being involed in gambling makes perfect sense. Only way to explain the bull shit calls I have seen watching steeler games. The refs were bought and paid for, no doubt about it, you guys coming on here and trying to explain it away does nothing. Anybody that watched that game knows that was a bullshit call. Two booth reviews, both unmistakably wrong and both in favor for the steelers. Ya that game wasnt rigged.
And the steeler pukes come out in force trying to explain how everybody under the sun that watched the game today is wrong and that was a legit game and a legit call. LMFAO you guys are blind and stupid if you believe that. Ofcourse if it was my team I wouldnt want to believe they was a bunch of cheaters either but the rest of the world can see the truth. The Rooneys being involed in gambling makes perfect sense. Only way to explain the bull shit calls I have seen watching steeler games. The refs were bought and paid for, no doubt about it, you guys coming on here and trying to explain it away does nothing. Anybody that watched that game knows that was a bullshit call. Two booth reviews, both unmistakably wrong and both in favor for the steelers. Ya that game wasnt rigged.
Why do you even bother caring about the NFL if you think it's rigged?
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It was the right call.
If you have the ball in your hands and are standing in the endzone it is a TD, no matter where the ball is.
Simms and Nantz seemed to have a hard-on for Balt in that instance. They kept talking about where the ball was, like that mattered.
Wrong, the ball has to cross the plane of the goal line. When a receiver makes a catch on the end zone sideline and snags a pass out of bounds, but his feet are in, it's a TD because the ball crossed the plane which extends forever out of bounds.
What you are saying is that if a running back runs toward the goal line on 4th-and-1 and slides feet first into the end zone (without the ball crossing), is that a Touch down too?
Wrong, the ball has to cross the plane of the goal line. When a receiver makes a catch on the end zone sideline and snags a pass out of bounds, but his feet are in, it's a TD because the ball crossed the plane which extends forever out of bounds.
What you are saying is that if a running back runs toward the goal line on 4th-and-1 and slides feet first into the end zone (without the ball crossing), is that a Touch down too?
Not sure what the exact rule is.
However if your feet are in the end zone and you try to down a punt that has not crossed the end line it is a touchback. In that case the feet in endzone dictates a toucback. It may be the same for a catch at the goal line. So the ref may actually have been correct in calling his feet in the end zone made it a
TD. Further if a ball is clearly out of the field of play as it crosses the goa line and is caught with feet in bounds it is also a TD and the Ball never crossed the plane of the goal line. In any case apparently the booth crew had and overhead shot showing the ball crossed the plane in that case it is a moot point wherever his feet were. Futher, they likely would have gotten the 1/2 inch needed if they kept the original spot.
Steelers won and they deserved to win and that is the bottom line. If indeed the referee mispoke the league should state so. They should also officially clarify the ruling which one would assume they will. Just as they admitted to cost the Steelers a TD a few games ago.
The refereeing in the league is pathetic and blown calls abound every game like the phantom holding call on Ray Lewis earlier in the game and that pathetic personal foul call againt the kicker at the end.
Something that really irritates me is judgement calls like a spot can be reviewed but blown penalty callls cannot......the league rules in regards to challenges and reviews are as FUBAR as possible
Good game, the best team won.......
Root for the AFC North to do well in the playoffs
Steelers had the hardest schedule in the NFL and now have won 11 games, they deserve accolades
The Browns need to emulate their formula....play better and renew the rivalry......that was once one of the best in football.....and the fans need to stop whining.....and start demanding excellence
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And the steeler pukes come out in force trying to explain how everybody under the sun that watched the game today is wrong and that was a legit game and a legit call. LMFAO you guys are blind and stupid if you believe that. Ofcourse if it was my team I wouldnt want to believe they was a bunch of cheaters either but the rest of the world can see the truth. The Rooneys being involed in gambling makes perfect sense. Only way to explain the bull shit calls I have seen watching steeler games. The refs were bought and paid for, no doubt about it, you guys coming on here and trying to explain it away does nothing. Anybody that watched that game knows that was a bullshit call. Two booth reviews, both unmistakably wrong and both in favor for the steelers. Ya that game wasnt rigged.
Why do you even bother caring about the NFL if you think it's rigged?
Why do you even bother caring about the NFL if you think it's rigged?
I dont believe every game is rigged but I would venture to guess there are a couple a week that are. Where there is gambling there is corruption, and there is way to much money to be made in betting on sports. Lets not forget these refs are not full time employies of the NFL. I dont know how much money they make but I guarentee they would/do make more in payoffs.
I watch because I enjoy the game and I like to root for the Browns. I would like to believe I am wrong about it being rigged but I cant deny what my own eyes have seen. The NFL never comes out and says this was a bad call and fires a ref, they explain it away and if you question a call you get fined. The NFL protects the refs instead of making them own up to these horrible calls. There should be investagations , but that would be bad for business.
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Futher, they likely would have gotten the 1/2 inch needed if they kept the original spot.
It wouldve been 4th down. Not even the Steelers go for it against the Ravens D in that situation. It wouldve been a FG to tie the game. -
And the steeler pukes come out in force trying to explain how everybody under the sun that watched the game today is wrong and that was a legit game and a legit call. LMFAO you guys are blind and stupid if you believe that. Ofcourse if it was my team I wouldnt want to believe they was a bunch of cheaters either but the rest of the world can see the truth. The Rooneys being involed in gambling makes perfect sense. Only way to explain the bull shit calls I have seen watching steeler games. The refs were bought and paid for, no doubt about it, you guys coming on here and trying to explain it away does nothing. Anybody that watched that game knows that was a bullshit call. Two booth reviews, both unmistakably wrong and both in favor for the steelers. Ya that game wasnt rigged.
And the steeler pukes come out in force trying to explain how everybody under the sun that watched the game today is wrong and that was a legit game and a legit call. LMFAO you guys are blind and stupid if you believe that. Ofcourse if it was my team I wouldnt want to believe they was a bunch of cheaters either but the rest of the world can see the truth. The Rooneys being involed in gambling makes perfect sense. Only way to explain the bull shit calls I have seen watching steeler games. The refs were bought and paid for, no doubt about it, you guys coming on here and trying to explain it away does nothing. Anybody that watched that game knows that was a bullshit call. Two booth reviews, both unmistakably wrong and both in favor for the steelers. Ya that game wasnt rigged.
Don't watch then dumba$$. You're most likely a wrestling fan who thought Hulk Hogan was robbed when he "fought" Rocky to a draw. It's funny how every bad call that goes in favor of your your team is quickly forgotten, and they were just the better team. And your team never loses, they only get cheated by the refs. Get real and quit whining.
I can see Furburger now, Tivo on replay trying desperately to find some satisfaction or last straw to grasp onto in another division championship for the Steelers.
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Could the favorable officiating towards Pittshole be ANY more obvious?
DWJ
Here ya go again with the bitchy whiny candy azz sissified crybaby...obsession with the Steelers ! Freaking loser that You are ! "waa... waaa The Refs Cheat for Pittsburgh "...so Retarded. EVERY Game is seen by everyone under the sun. No cheating involved. Just humans making calls. If you get a break kool... If not ( Like the Polomalu "Fumble" ..against INDY in the Playoffs a couple yrs ago) Get up and make you own breaks ! What a sorry loser mentality you have dude !
GEEKofSQUEAL08 said:
Here ya go again with the bitchy whiny candy azz sissified crybaby...obsession with the Steelers ! Freaking loser that You are ! "waa... waaa The Refs Cheat for Pittsburgh "...so Retarded. EVERY Game is seen by everyone under the sun. No cheating involved. Just humans making calls. If you get a break kool... If not ( Like the Polomalu "Fumble" ..against INDY in the Playoffs a couple yrs ago) Get up and make you own breaks ! What a sorry loser mentality you have dude !Quit typing like a Ghetto-Tard. Trust me it isn't impressing ANYONE.
Isn't it funny how these officials suddenly turn into Ray Charles, Stevie Wonder and Helen Keller when they're assigned to a Squealer game? This kind of thing happens WAY too often in Pittshole's favor for it to be a coincidence.
Face it, your team reeks of taint.
Doug
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It must suck to be a stains fan and just sit there stewing in despise watching your team shit the bed while them Stillers are becoming the #1 seed in the AFC.
Schadenfreude.
Regards
.... an'at
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It must suck to be a stains fan and just sit there stewing in despise watching your team shit the bed while them Stillers are becoming the #1 seed in the AFC.
Schadenfreude.
Regards
.... an'at
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Steeler SChuck said:
It must suck to be a stains fan and just sit there stewing in despise watching your team shit the bed while them Stillers are becoming the #1 seed in the AFC.Schadenfreude.
Regards
.... an'at
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fag
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Steeler SChuck said:
It must suck to be a stains fan and just sit there stewing in despise watching your team shit the bed while them Stillers are becoming the #1 seed in the AFC.Schadenfreude.
Regards
.... an'at
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fag
fag
Peter eater (errr...pumpkin eater), admit the cold hard facts.
If the football gods offered to exchange the Steelers players, coaches and ownership in a direct swap for everything Clowns...you would take it grinning like a fool and ejaculating in your pants. Too bad for you it'll never happen, but then again you and furburger can pin your hopes on another teams failure, rather than accept the ineptitude of your own.
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And the steeler pukes come out in force trying to explain how everybody under the sun that watched the game today is wrong and that was a legit game and a legit call. LMFAO you guys are blind and stupid if you believe that. Ofcourse if it was my team I wouldnt want to believe they was a bunch of cheaters either but the rest of the world can see the truth. The Rooneys being involed in gambling makes perfect sense. Only way to explain the bull shit calls I have seen watching steeler games. The refs were bought and paid for, no doubt about it, you guys coming on here and trying to explain it away does nothing. Anybody that watched that game knows that was a bullshit call. Two booth reviews, both unmistakably wrong and both in favor for the steelers. Ya that game wasnt rigged.
Don't watch then dumba$$. You're most likely a wrestling fan who thought Hulk Hogan was robbed when he "fought" Rocky to a draw. It's funny how every bad call that goes in favor of your your team is quickly forgotten, and they were just the better team. And your team never loses, they only get cheated by the refs. Get real and quit whining.
I can see Furburger now, Tivo on replay trying desperately to find some satisfaction or last straw to grasp onto in another division championship for the Steelers.
Don't watch then dumba$$. You're most likely a wrestling fan who thought Hulk Hogan was robbed when he "fought" Rocky to a draw. It's funny how every bad call that goes in favor of your your team is quickly forgotten, and they were just the better team. And your team never loses, they only get cheated by the refs. Get real and quit whining.
I can see Furburger now, Tivo on replay trying desperately to find some satisfaction or last straw to grasp onto in another division championship for the Steelers.
Ya, I dont watch wrestling, its fake and Im about there with football after games like steelers and ravens, its borderline fake. Those refs shaped that game, there is no doubt. I am inclined to agree with Formely Stoned on his outlook, do I think the Steelers get every call to go there way? No, but they have gotten their share that is for sure. I dont watch every game of the Steelers but I will say the couple I watch a year has some shady calls going your way and Im not talking about Browns games where I have a vested interest. I could give a shit about the Ravens but they was robbed out of that game last night. You can call names all you want doesnt change the fact those refs where bought and paid for.
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fag
Peter eater (errr...pumpkin eater), admit the cold hard facts.
If the football gods offered to exchange the Steelers players, coaches and ownership in a direct swap for everything Clowns...you would take it grinning like a fool and ejaculating in your pants. Too bad for you it'll never happen, but then again you and furburger can pin your hopes on another teams failure, rather than accept the ineptitude of your own.
Peter eater (errr...pumpkin eater), admit the cold hard facts.
If the football gods offered to exchange the Steelers players, coaches and ownership in a direct swap for everything Clowns...you would take it grinning like a fool and ejaculating in your pants. Too bad for you it'll never happen, but then again you and furburger can pin your hopes on another teams failure, rather than accept the ineptitude of your own.
Douchebag
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It must suck to be a stains fan and just sit there stewing in despise watching your team shit the bed while them Stillers are becoming the #1 seed in the AFC.
Schadenfreude.
Regards
.... an'at
.
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Don't watch then dumba$$. You're most likely a wrestling fan who thought Hulk Hogan was robbed when he "fought" Rocky to a draw. It's funny how every bad call that goes in favor of your your team is quickly forgotten, and they were just the better team. And your team never loses, they only get cheated by the refs. Get real and quit whining.
I can see Furburger now, Tivo on replay trying desperately to find some satisfaction or last straw to grasp onto in another division championship for the Steelers.
Ya, I dont watch wrestling, its fake and Im about there with football after games like steelers and ravens, its borderline fake. Those refs shaped that game, there is no doubt. I am inclined to agree with Formely Stoned on his outlook, do I think the Steelers get every call to go there way? No, but they have gotten their share that is for sure. I dont watch every game of the Steelers but I will say the couple I watch a year has some shady calls going your way and Im not talking about Browns games where I have a vested interest. I could give a shit about the Ravens but they was robbed out of that game last night. You can call names all you want doesnt change the fact those refs where bought and paid for.
Ya, I dont watch wrestling, its fake and Im about there with football after games like steelers and ravens, its borderline fake. Those refs shaped that game, there is no doubt. I am inclined to agree with Formely Stoned on his outlook, do I think the Steelers get every call to go there way? No, but they have gotten their share that is for sure. I dont watch every game of the Steelers but I will say the couple I watch a year has some shady calls going your way and Im not talking about Browns games where I have a vested interest. I could give a shit about the Ravens but they was robbed out of that game last night. You can call names all you want doesnt change the fact those refs where bought and paid for.
How were they robbed?? The Ravens defense is the ones that let the Steelers drive down the field on them 92 yards at the end of the game. Did the refs tell the Ravens to let the Steelers drive down the field on them and go the length of the field with the game on the line?? And like I have been saying on here the Steelers probably go for it on 4th down and make an inch and win the game so it's a moot point. If you want to say the Ravens would have stopped the Steelers I can say the Steelers would have got in. Hindsight is 50/50 in that situation. But once again this whole thing goes back to Browns fans like yourself being bitter and jealous of the Steelers franchise consistently winning and competing for playoffs and Super Bowls every year while the Browns continue to hire losers and continue to settle for being .500 as a successful season. That's the real issue here. You Browns fans would give your left testicle to have a consistent football team with a defense like the Steelers, and a QB like Ben if it meant you would have a chance to compete and win every year. And if you say otherwise you're a liar and full of shit.
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Formerly Stone said:
By the way, any moron who understands football could see that the TD was good! Holmes had possession the instant the ball hit his hands because he never juggled or bobbled it after that......when he pulled it in it was well "over" the plane.....it broke the planes when it hit his hands.So if at that magical moment where you said Holmes had possession, what happens if a defender knocks the ball out of his hands? Still a completion? If not, you can't say possession started there because possession starts at the point where an incompletion becomes a fumble. Wouldn't you agree?
I really liked the way the game ended, I am a Browns fan who doesn't like Baltimore or Pittsburgh at all. I'd like to see one of the two miss the playoffs, and this was probably the best case scenerio for that to happen. So i was ok with the Steelers winning, and almost happy that they won it with a call that could never be overturned by replay, but was.
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@winslow-s-urologist said:
Now for those of you non-squealers who want to have a rational discussion about this, here's Andrew Perloff’s column on CNNSI.They dont have time to discuss this game anymore they are getting ready for their big Monday night matchup tonight against Philadelphia with Ken Dorsey as their starting QB hahaha. Cmon you know they have to discuss and talk about what players are going to be good enough to keep for next season when the Browns stink again. That's usually the only thing the Browns have to hang on to or discuss the last 2-3 games of the season since they are never in playoff contention and never have a chance to win anything.
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