Rob Ryan to Carolina?

[Tim Couch Pulls Out]

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...sive_coo_6.html

[shepwrite]

Wonder if it got cancelled at halftime? Yikes.

[Mark O]

He's free to go...

I'll take John Fox to run the defense with whoever the new coach is going to be.

[PeytonHillis]

@mark-o said:

He's free to go...

I'll take John Fox to run the defense with whoever the new coach is going to be.

John Fox? This guy doesn't even know how to coach.

[Mark O]

Really? doesn't know how to coach? Seems to me I watched him coach his team in a super bowl not too long ago. He'd be an improvement over watching our defense get ass raped play after play for the last few weeks.

[Mark O]

71-57 heading into this season. 5-3 in the playoffs and he doesn't know how to coach? Who in your opinion does know how to coach?

[PeytonHillis]

Well Sean Payton, Bill Belicheck, Jim Caldwell, Lovie Smith, Mike Tomlin, Mike Smith, and Andy Reid.

[Mark O]

@peytonhillis said:

Well Sean Payton, Bill Belicheck, Jim Caldwell, Lovie Smith, Mike Tomlin, Mike Smith, and Andy Reid.

And who on that list is going to be available genius?

I'm sure Mike Tomlin or Belicheck will be happy to step down from their current HC positions to take our defensive coordinator job.

[Tim Couch Pulls Out]

@peytonhillis said:

Well Sean Payton, Bill Belicheck, Jim Caldwell, Lovie Smith, Mike Tomlin, Mike Smith, and Andy Reid.

What?

[Pumpkin Eater]

Does Lovie Smith really have such a better record than John Fox? Not remarkably, if at all. Caldwell? Mike Smith?

[Mark O]

He clearly just picked the coaches who are going to the playoffs this year and picked them as better coaches. It's a ridiculous argument since my initial statement was about bringing Fox in as DC should Ryan leave for a HC job or quite possibly get fired with the rest of the coaches.

[Pumpkin Eater]

I'd take Fox as a head coach. Consider Carolina is the youngest football team in the NFL and their starting QB shit the bed then went on IR, their running backs were injured, and many injuries on D wile already being the youngest football team.

[Mark O]

I agree...I think the guy is a real good coach and his teams always play hard. They just stink this year. I like him as a coach but I'd really rather see us go after an offensive minded guy for head coach if we're looking for a new one which I think we will be.

[Pumpkin Eater]

True, I don't believe that Fox runs a WCO, which is what Holmgren will be looking for.

[Tim Couch Pulls Out]

@pumpkin-eater said:

True, I don't believe that Fox runs a WCO, which is what Holmgren will be looking for.

He wouldn't be coming in to run the show, only as DC.

[BelieveinMangini]

I would trade Rob Ryan for Jon Fox right now!

[PeytonHillis]

@mark-o said:

And who on that list is going to be available genius?

I'm sure Mike Tomlin or Belicheck will be happy to step down from their current HC positions to take our defensive coordinator job.

Hey you asked which coaches are good. You never said available.

[bringbackbrownie2]

@peytonhillis said:

Well Sean Payton, Bill Belicheck, Jim Caldwell, Lovie Smith, Mike Tomlin, Mike Smith, and Andy Reid.

I actually don't think Caldwell, Smith, or Tomlin are great coaches... Caldwell and Tomlin benefit from a franchise QB and good overall teams. Smith was on the hot seat this yr until mike martz came in as OC and saved his butt...

[Mark O]

@peytonhillis said:

Hey you asked which coaches are good. You never said available.

You're an idiot.

Paul Brown, Vince Lombardi, and George Halas are great coaches as well. But who xxxxing cares because they're dead and cant help our team.

[BROWNandORANGE]

@mark-o said:

And who on that list is going to be available genius?

Lovie Smith. This is the final year of his contract.