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  • JoeyBagofDonuts ?
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    ? JoeyBagofDonuts wrote on last edited by
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    Just want to say happy trails and good ridance to Abe Elam. Gonna miss Trusnik just cus he's from Nordonia. Anyone else from the Mangini players you see leaving. And also are there any player you see coming in like, McNabb, Kolb, St. Louis players????

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      Just want to say happy trails and good ridance to Abe Elam. Gonna miss Trusnik just cus he's from Nordonia. Anyone else from the Mangini players you see leaving. And also are there any player you see coming in like, McNabb, Kolb, St. Louis players????

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      miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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      @joeybagofdonuts said:

      Just want to say happy trails and good ridance to Abe Elam. Gonna miss Trusnik just cus he's from Nordonia. Anyone else from the Mangini players you see leaving. And also are there any player you see coming in like, McNabb, Kolb, St. Louis players????

      ok. your username says it all. you gotta be a jets fan so.................STFU. this is the only kinda bag you are: DOUCHEBAG!

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        ? JoeyBagofDonuts wrote on last edited by
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        Wow you are one bitter man. And no not a jets fan just saying bye to those players that mangini brought in cus really they are not that good. So wondering who the new coach might bring in cus its his guys!!! Was wondering if anyone had ideas so why don't you STFU!!!

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          W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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          Hey come on now,how about some of those great Rams players like, uh.............

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            Just want to say happy trails and good ridance to Abe Elam. Gonna miss Trusnik just cus he's from Nordonia. Anyone else from the Mangini players you see leaving. And also are there any player you see coming in like, McNabb, Kolb, St. Louis players????

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            B bringbackbrownie2 wrote on last edited by
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            @joeybagofdonuts said:

            Just want to say happy trails and good ridance to Abe Elam. Gonna miss Trusnik just cus he's from Nordonia. Anyone else from the Mangini players you see leaving. And also are there any player you see coming in like, McNabb, Kolb, St. Louis players????

            Did you watch Elam play this year? He is not a pro bowl player but he had a good second half of the season. Trusnic is just average. Don't start blaming Mangini for our talent problems either. He did what he could with what he was given. Now lets move on and support our new coach Pat Shurmur...

            To answer your other questions: St. Louis has no one to give us as Bradford and Jackson are their only offense. No to McNabb and Kolb. We will get WRs in the draft and free agency - maybe breaston (ARZ) or Jones (GB) would be good pickups.. We also need a pass rusher and depth on the defensive line and right side of our OL so again no St. Louis players..

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              I think they will bring in an old pro as backup. I could actually see McNabb coming (don't be haters). I don't think cutting players will have anything to do with Mangini, it will be based on their talent (or lack of), positional need, salary, who else is available and adjustments in personnel that are required as a result of adjustments in offensive and defensive schemes.

              But what do I know, I don't believe aliens built the pyramids. I actually believe some hard working Egyptians did it.

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                BrownsBackerB BrownsBacker wrote on last edited by
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                Would you happen to be related to Tony Macaroni? 🥷

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                  Just want to say happy trails and good ridance to Abe Elam. Gonna miss Trusnik just cus he's from Nordonia. Anyone else from the Mangini players you see leaving. And also are there any player you see coming in like, McNabb, Kolb, St. Louis players????

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                  GipsG Gips wrote on last edited by
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                  @joeybagofdonuts said:

                  Just want to say happy trails and good ridance to Abe Elam. Gonna miss Trusnik just cus he's from Nordonia. Anyone else from the Mangini players you see leaving. And also are there any player you see coming in like, McNabb, Kolb, St. Louis players????

                  I say most of them will likely be leaving soon, not sure if its a good thing just yet though, none of them have anything over mediocre but toughness however its more than we will have without them..

                  We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!
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                    I hope Elam stays to be honest. I think he started coming into his own towards the end of the year. And we have so many other holes to fill why let him walk and create another one. He is in the the prime of his career right now why let him him have his best years with another team. I also think think will benefit from Ward being a year further along in his career.

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                      S shepwrite wrote on last edited by
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                      Elam had a really nice year. We already lost a safety to a much better defense (Pool)... rather not do it again.

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                        Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo wrote on last edited by
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                        I actually think Elam will keep getting better for another year or two and I think at least we will be getting the level of play he gave us at the end of this season all through next season.

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                          Just because Mangini is gone doesnt mean some of the players he had relationships will be fired. Mangini did a great job improving our team with talented players. He did alot of housecleaning and got rid of some cancers such as Edwards. No player is above the team.

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                            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                            Isn't practically our entire linebacking corps ex Jets? And it was an average LB corps, so yea, I see a lot of them hitting the road.

                            It could all depend on the DC they get in here.

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                              @joeybagofdonuts said:

                              Just want to say happy trails and good ridance to Abe Elam. Gonna miss Trusnik just cus he's from Nordonia. Anyone else from the Mangini players you see leaving. And also are there any player you see coming in like, McNabb, Kolb, St. Louis players????

                              Did you watch Elam play this year? He is not a pro bowl player but he had a good second half of the season. Trusnic is just average. Don't start blaming Mangini for our talent problems either. He did what he could with what he was given. Now lets move on and support our new coach Pat Shurmur...

                              To answer your other questions: St. Louis has no one to give us as Bradford and Jackson are their only offense. No to McNabb and Kolb. We will get WRs in the draft and free agency - maybe breaston (ARZ) or Jones (GB) would be good pickups.. We also need a pass rusher and depth on the defensive line and right side of our OL so again no St. Louis players..

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                              @bringbackbrownie2 said:

                              Don't start blaming Mangini for our talent problems either. He did what he could with what he was given.

                              Whatever you're smoking, I want some. Mangini stocked this roster with ST's players, not good backups, because ST's players are fringe players and will buy into your system. He got rid of more talent than he brought in, he drafted like crap, he traded the #5 overall pick to his former team for players that team would consider 2nd string, he traded our #1 WR (#3 pick overall) for Trusnik, Stuckey and 3rd & 5th round picks, he dropped Don Carey, he started Lewis over Harrison and Wright over Haden, and to top it all off he couldn't manage QB's. He did what he could with what he was given? He gave it all away, dude.

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                                @bringbackbrownie2 said:

                                Don't start blaming Mangini for our talent problems either. He did what he could with what he was given.

                                Whatever you're smoking, I want some. Mangini stocked this roster with ST's players, not good backups, because ST's players are fringe players and will buy into your system. He got rid of more talent than he brought in, he drafted like crap, he traded the #5 overall pick to his former team for players that team would consider 2nd string, he traded our #1 WR (#3 pick overall) for Trusnik, Stuckey and 3rd & 5th round picks, he dropped Don Carey, he started Lewis over Harrison and Wright over Haden, and to top it all off he couldn't manage QB's. He did what he could with what he was given? He gave it all away, dude.

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                                miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                                @hoss said:

                                Whatever you're smoking, I want some. Mangini stocked this roster with ST's players, not good backups, because ST's players are fringe players and will buy into your system. He got rid of more talent than he brought in, he drafted like crap, he traded the #5 overall pick to his former team for players that team would consider 2nd string, he traded our #1 WR (#3 pick overall) for Trusnik, Stuckey and 3rd & 5th round picks, he dropped Don Carey, he started Lewis over Harrison and Wright over Haden, and to top it all off he couldn't manage QB's. He did what he could with what he was given? He gave it all away, dude.

                                dude: go F yourself.

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                                  @bringbackbrownie2 said:

                                  Don't start blaming Mangini for our talent problems either. He did what he could with what he was given.

                                  Whatever you're smoking, I want some. Mangini stocked this roster with ST's players, not good backups, because ST's players are fringe players and will buy into your system. He got rid of more talent than he brought in, he drafted like crap, he traded the #5 overall pick to his former team for players that team would consider 2nd string, he traded our #1 WR (#3 pick overall) for Trusnik, Stuckey and 3rd & 5th round picks, he dropped Don Carey, he started Lewis over Harrison and Wright over Haden, and to top it all off he couldn't manage QB's. He did what he could with what he was given? He gave it all away, dude.

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                                  The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                  @hoss said:

                                  Whatever you're smoking, I want some. Mangini stocked this roster with ST's players, not good backups, because ST's players are fringe players and will buy into your system. He got rid of more talent than he brought in, he drafted like crap, he traded the #5 overall pick to his former team for players that team would consider 2nd string, he traded our #1 WR (#3 pick overall) for Trusnik, Stuckey and 3rd & 5th round picks, he dropped Don Carey, he started Lewis over Harrison and Wright over Haden, and to top it all off he couldn't manage QB's. He did what he could with what he was given? He gave it all away, dude.

                                  WTF makes you think that all these moves were made by Mangini?

                                  If you are so damn smart, why are you not an NFL HC or GM?

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                                    Hey come on now,how about some of those great Rams players like, uh.............

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                                    Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
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                                    @westside-steve said:

                                    Hey come on now,how about some of those great Rams players like, uh.............

                                    WSS

                                    Amendola, Long, Laurinaitis......they have some talent over there.

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                                      C CantonLegend wrote on last edited by
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                                      mangini has a good history of bringing in very good players both through the draft and free agency

                                      the players that he brought to cleveland are no different and in a few years they will be the cornerstones of a solid franchise just like the jets are now

                                      for some reason teams love using manginis players, but dont like using mangini

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                                        Hey Elam was pretty good in the last half of this season.

                                        I get the feeling that things would be very different for this team if Mangini was just the head coach in '09, and we had brought in an actual GM instead of having him draft and such.

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                                        • The GipperT The Gipper

                                          @hoss said:

                                          Whatever you're smoking, I want some. Mangini stocked this roster with ST's players, not good backups, because ST's players are fringe players and will buy into your system. He got rid of more talent than he brought in, he drafted like crap, he traded the #5 overall pick to his former team for players that team would consider 2nd string, he traded our #1 WR (#3 pick overall) for Trusnik, Stuckey and 3rd & 5th round picks, he dropped Don Carey, he started Lewis over Harrison and Wright over Haden, and to top it all off he couldn't manage QB's. He did what he could with what he was given? He gave it all away, dude.

                                          WTF makes you think that all these moves were made by Mangini?

                                          If you are so damn smart, why are you not an NFL HC or GM?

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                                          WTF makes you think that all these moves were made by Mangini?

                                          If you are so damn smart, why are you not an NFL HC or GM?

                                          LMAO! Gipper come on now, I have seen lists of players posters have said Eric brought to the JETS, yet he didn't run those drafts the GM did. Then I am supposed to believe that the hand picked GM Eric brought here did all the dirty work? You have got to be kidding me. Eric was a genius in New York with their draft, but suddenly he is not responsible for the shit players he acquired here on his own accord?

                                          Give me a fooking break. He doesn't and shouldn't shoulder all the blame, but most of these moves were for Jets players. And the compensation we received was WAY below market value.

                                          Mangini trades with one team, sends high value for low return, and I am supposed to blame the handpicked BAL GM? You are seriously trying to sell this to me?

                                          You're better than that.

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