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  • The Gipper The GipperT In Memoriam Very Popular
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    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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    Today's Survey:

    A. Here are the list of the Quarterbacks who are in the All time Top 20 in career passing yards who are not yet in the HOF. The number next to their name lists where they rank in all time yardage. The gaps mean that the person in the missing number is already in the HOF. Tell us, who gets in, who doesn't:

    1. Brett Favre

    3. Peyton Manning*

    7. Vinny Testaverde

    8. Drew Bledsoe

    11. Kerry Collins*

    13. Dave Kreig

    14. Boomer Esiason

    15. Donovan McNabb*

    17. Drew Brees*

    18. Jim Everett

    19. Tom Brady*

    20. Jim Hart

    B. Now here is the similar for career yardage leaders in rushing yards:

    4. Curtis Martin

    5. Jerome Bettis

    6. LaDanian Tomlinson*

    11. Edgerrin James

    15. Fred Taylor*

    17. Corey Dillon

    19. Warrick Dunn

    20. Ricky Watters

    21. Jamal Lewis

    Who's in, who's out?

    C. And here is the list for Career Receptions (numbers, not yards):

    2. Marvin Harrison

    3. Chris Carter

    4. Tim Brown

    5. Terrell Owens*

    6. Tony Gonzales*

    7. Isaac Bruce

    8. Randy Moss*

    9. Hines Ward

    10. Andre Reed

    12. Derrick Mason

    13. Tory Holt

    14. Keenan McCardell

    15. Jimmy Smith

    16. Muhsin Muhammed

    17. Irving Fryar

    18. Rod Smith

    19. Larry Centers

    Who is in, who is out?

    D. These are the non-kickers who have not made the HOF who are in the top 20 in career games played:

    14. Jim Marshall

    15. Trey Junkin

    17. Clay Matthews II

    19. Junior Seau

    Who is in, who is out?

    E. Finally, are there any kickers who you think should be elected to the HOF who have not been? Note: kickers that are in are Blanda, Groza, Hornung, Stenurud and that is it, and all but Stenurud played primarily at other positions.

    * means the player is still active.

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    • The GipperT The Gipper

      Today's Survey:

      A. Here are the list of the Quarterbacks who are in the All time Top 20 in career passing yards who are not yet in the HOF. The number next to their name lists where they rank in all time yardage. The gaps mean that the person in the missing number is already in the HOF. Tell us, who gets in, who doesn't:

      1. Brett Favre

      3. Peyton Manning*

      7. Vinny Testaverde

      8. Drew Bledsoe

      11. Kerry Collins*

      13. Dave Kreig

      14. Boomer Esiason

      15. Donovan McNabb*

      17. Drew Brees*

      18. Jim Everett

      19. Tom Brady*

      20. Jim Hart

      B. Now here is the similar for career yardage leaders in rushing yards:

      4. Curtis Martin

      5. Jerome Bettis

      6. LaDanian Tomlinson*

      11. Edgerrin James

      15. Fred Taylor*

      17. Corey Dillon

      19. Warrick Dunn

      20. Ricky Watters

      21. Jamal Lewis

      Who's in, who's out?

      C. And here is the list for Career Receptions (numbers, not yards):

      2. Marvin Harrison

      3. Chris Carter

      4. Tim Brown

      5. Terrell Owens*

      6. Tony Gonzales*

      7. Isaac Bruce

      8. Randy Moss*

      9. Hines Ward

      10. Andre Reed

      12. Derrick Mason

      13. Tory Holt

      14. Keenan McCardell

      15. Jimmy Smith

      16. Muhsin Muhammed

      17. Irving Fryar

      18. Rod Smith

      19. Larry Centers

      Who is in, who is out?

      D. These are the non-kickers who have not made the HOF who are in the top 20 in career games played:

      14. Jim Marshall

      15. Trey Junkin

      17. Clay Matthews II

      19. Junior Seau

      Who is in, who is out?

      E. Finally, are there any kickers who you think should be elected to the HOF who have not been? Note: kickers that are in are Blanda, Groza, Hornung, Stenurud and that is it, and all but Stenurud played primarily at other positions.

      * means the player is still active.

      The Gipper The GipperT In Memoriam Very Popular
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      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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      @the-gipper said:

      Today's Survey:

      My own opinions:

      A. Here are the list of the Quarterbacks who are in the All time Top 20 in career passing yards who are not yet in the HOF. The number next to their name lists where they rank in all time yardage. The gaps mean that the person in the missing number is already in the HOF. Tell us, who gets in, who doesn't:

      1. Brett Favre

      3. Peyton Manning*

      7. Vinny Testaverde

      8. Drew Bledsoe

      11. Kerry Collins*

      13. Dave Kreig

      14. Boomer Esiason

      15. Donovan McNabb*

      17. Drew Brees*

      18. Jim Everett

      19. Tom Brady*

      20. Jim Hart

      Favre, Manning and Brady are shoe-ins. If the Saints with Brees continue to challenge for rings, Brees could join that group. McNabb will be borderline. (yes, actually, I believe his skin tone will help him even though his career has been about comparable to Esiason and Bledsoe.) No one else is likely.

      B. Now here is the similar for career yardage leaders in rushing yards:

      4. Curtis Martin

      5. Jerome Bettis

      6. LaDanian Tomlinson*

      11. Edgerrin James

      15. Fred Taylor*

      17. Corey Dillon

      19. Warrick Dunn

      20. Ricky Watters

      21. Jamal Lewis

      Who's in, who's out?

      Martin, Bettis and Tomlinson are likely in. Jamal Lewis, despite being behind in career yardage of some of those others will be more likely to get in because of his 2000 yard season. He may be seen in a vein similar to Earl Campbell who is only 30th in all time rushing yards.

      C. And here is the list for Career Receptions (numbers, not yards):

      2. Marvin Harrison

      3. Chris Carter

      4. Tim Brown

      5. Terrell Owens*

      6. Tony Gonzales*

      7. Isaac Bruce

      8. Randy Moss*

      9. Hines Ward

      10. Andre Reed

      12. Derrick Mason

      13. Tory Holt

      14. Keenan McCardell

      15. Jimmy Smith

      16. Muhsin Muhammed

      17. Irving Fryar

      18. Rod Smith

      19. Larry Centers

      Who is in, who is out?

      Those above and including Moss should be in (Carter, Brown, Harrison, Bruce, Gonzales). Ward and Reed are on the border. Below that, no.

      D. These are the non-kickers who have not made the HOF who are in the top 20 in career games played:

      14. Jim Marshall

      15. Trey Junkin

      17. Clay Matthews II

      19. Junior Seau

      Who is in, who is out?

      Marshall should be in imo, and perhaps will be someday. Seau has a high probabability of getting in. I would like to see Clay in, but it won't happen. Neither will it for the brother of the mad dog in a meat market.

      E. Finally, are there any kickers who you think should be elected to the HOF who have not been? Note: kickers that are in are Blanda, Groza, Hornung, Stenurud and that is it, and all but Stenurud played primarily at other positions.

      If Stenurud is in then I think that both Morten Anderson and Gary Anderson should make it. The other possibility is Adam Vinatieri because of his several championship game winning histrionics.

      * means the player is still active.

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      • The GipperT The Gipper

        Today's Survey:

        A. Here are the list of the Quarterbacks who are in the All time Top 20 in career passing yards who are not yet in the HOF. The number next to their name lists where they rank in all time yardage. The gaps mean that the person in the missing number is already in the HOF. Tell us, who gets in, who doesn't:

        1. Brett Favre

        3. Peyton Manning*

        7. Vinny Testaverde

        8. Drew Bledsoe

        11. Kerry Collins*

        13. Dave Kreig

        14. Boomer Esiason

        15. Donovan McNabb*

        17. Drew Brees*

        18. Jim Everett

        19. Tom Brady*

        20. Jim Hart

        B. Now here is the similar for career yardage leaders in rushing yards:

        4. Curtis Martin

        5. Jerome Bettis

        6. LaDanian Tomlinson*

        11. Edgerrin James

        15. Fred Taylor*

        17. Corey Dillon

        19. Warrick Dunn

        20. Ricky Watters

        21. Jamal Lewis

        Who's in, who's out?

        C. And here is the list for Career Receptions (numbers, not yards):

        2. Marvin Harrison

        3. Chris Carter

        4. Tim Brown

        5. Terrell Owens*

        6. Tony Gonzales*

        7. Isaac Bruce

        8. Randy Moss*

        9. Hines Ward

        10. Andre Reed

        12. Derrick Mason

        13. Tory Holt

        14. Keenan McCardell

        15. Jimmy Smith

        16. Muhsin Muhammed

        17. Irving Fryar

        18. Rod Smith

        19. Larry Centers

        Who is in, who is out?

        D. These are the non-kickers who have not made the HOF who are in the top 20 in career games played:

        14. Jim Marshall

        15. Trey Junkin

        17. Clay Matthews II

        19. Junior Seau

        Who is in, who is out?

        E. Finally, are there any kickers who you think should be elected to the HOF who have not been? Note: kickers that are in are Blanda, Groza, Hornung, Stenurud and that is it, and all but Stenurud played primarily at other positions.

        * means the player is still active.

        Thaak ThaakT
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        @the-gipper said:

        Today's Survey:

        A. Here are the list of the Quarterbacks who are in the All time Top 20 in career passing yards who are not yet in the HOF. The number next to their name lists where they rank in all time yardage. The gaps mean that the person in the missing number is already in the HOF. Tell us, who gets in, who doesn't:

        1. Brett Favre

        3. Peyton Manning*

        7. Vinny Testaverde

        8. Drew Bledsoe

        11. Kerry Collins*

        13. Dave Kreig

        14. Boomer Esiason

        15. Donovan McNabb*

        17. Drew Brees*

        18. Jim Everett

        19. Tom Brady*

        20. Jim Hart

        B. Now here is the similar for career yardage leaders in rushing yards:

        4. Curtis Martin

        5. Jerome Bettis

        6. LaDanian Tomlinson*

        11. Edgerrin James

        15. Fred Taylor*

        17. Corey Dillon

        19. Warrick Dunn

        20. Ricky Watters

        21. Jamal Lewis

        Who's in, who's out?

        C. And here is the list for Career Receptions (numbers, not yards):

        2. Marvin Harrison

        3. Chris Carter

        4. Tim Brown

        5. Terrell Owens*

        6. Tony Gonzales*

        7. Isaac Bruce

        8. Randy Moss*

        9. Hines Ward

        10. Andre Reed

        12. Derrick Mason

        13. Tory Holt

        14. Keenan McCardell

        15. Jimmy Smith

        16. Muhsin Muhammed

        17. Irving Fryar

        18. Rod Smith

        19. Larry Centers

        Who is in, who is out?

        D. These are the non-kickers who have not made the HOF who are in the top 20 in career games played:

        14. Jim Marshall

        15. Trey Junkin

        17. Clay Matthews II

        19. Junior Seau

        Who is in, who is out?

        E. Finally, are there any kickers who you think should be elected to the HOF who have not been? Note: kickers that are in are Blanda, Groza, Hornung, Stenurud and that is it, and all but Stenurud played primarily at other positions.

        * means the player is still active.

        Favre, Manning and Brady are shoo-ins. Brees still has some to prove. The rest didn't do enough or win enough. Purely having yardage shouldn't get you in the HOF (which is why Art Monk took so long).

        Tomlinson & Lewis are shoo-ins. Curtis Martin & Jerome Bettis might make it if there is a weak field to pick from that year. The rest didn't do enough.

        Harrison, Gonzalez, Moss, & Holt should make it. Carter, Brown, and Bruce will have a tough road to get in, but might. Owens won't because he's a dick. Ward probably will, even though he shouldn't.

        I can see Seau making it. While I loved Matthews, I don't think his numbers support HOF. He had some mad heart, and was the soul of a couple different great defenses, but I don't think he's HOF material.

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        • The GipperT The Gipper

          Today's Survey:

          A. Here are the list of the Quarterbacks who are in the All time Top 20 in career passing yards who are not yet in the HOF. The number next to their name lists where they rank in all time yardage. The gaps mean that the person in the missing number is already in the HOF. Tell us, who gets in, who doesn't:

          1. Brett Favre

          3. Peyton Manning*

          7. Vinny Testaverde

          8. Drew Bledsoe

          11. Kerry Collins*

          13. Dave Kreig

          14. Boomer Esiason

          15. Donovan McNabb*

          17. Drew Brees*

          18. Jim Everett

          19. Tom Brady*

          20. Jim Hart

          B. Now here is the similar for career yardage leaders in rushing yards:

          4. Curtis Martin

          5. Jerome Bettis

          6. LaDanian Tomlinson*

          11. Edgerrin James

          15. Fred Taylor*

          17. Corey Dillon

          19. Warrick Dunn

          20. Ricky Watters

          21. Jamal Lewis

          Who's in, who's out?

          C. And here is the list for Career Receptions (numbers, not yards):

          2. Marvin Harrison

          3. Chris Carter

          4. Tim Brown

          5. Terrell Owens*

          6. Tony Gonzales*

          7. Isaac Bruce

          8. Randy Moss*

          9. Hines Ward

          10. Andre Reed

          12. Derrick Mason

          13. Tory Holt

          14. Keenan McCardell

          15. Jimmy Smith

          16. Muhsin Muhammed

          17. Irving Fryar

          18. Rod Smith

          19. Larry Centers

          Who is in, who is out?

          D. These are the non-kickers who have not made the HOF who are in the top 20 in career games played:

          14. Jim Marshall

          15. Trey Junkin

          17. Clay Matthews II

          19. Junior Seau

          Who is in, who is out?

          E. Finally, are there any kickers who you think should be elected to the HOF who have not been? Note: kickers that are in are Blanda, Groza, Hornung, Stenurud and that is it, and all but Stenurud played primarily at other positions.

          * means the player is still active.

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          @the-gipper said:

          Today's Survey:

          A. Here are the list of the Quarterbacks who are in the All time Top 20 in career passing yards who are not yet in the HOF. The number next to their name lists where they rank in all time yardage. The gaps mean that the person in the missing number is already in the HOF. Tell us, who gets in, who doesn't:

          1. Brett Favre

          3. Peyton Manning*

          7. Vinny Testaverde

          8. Drew Bledsoe

          11. Kerry Collins*

          13. Dave Kreig

          14. Boomer Esiason

          15. Donovan McNabb*

          17. Drew Brees*

          18. Jim Everett

          19. Tom Brady*

          20. Jim Hart

          B. Now here is the similar for career yardage leaders in rushing yards:

          4. Curtis Martin

          5. Jerome Bettis

          6. LaDanian Tomlinson*

          11. Edgerrin James

          15. Fred Taylor*

          17. Corey Dillon

          19. Warrick Dunn

          20. Ricky Watters

          21. Jamal Lewis

          Who's in, who's out?

          C. And here is the list for Career Receptions (numbers, not yards):

          2. Marvin Harrison

          3. Chris Carter

          4. Tim Brown

          5. Terrell Owens*

          6. Tony Gonzales*

          7. Isaac Bruce

          8. Randy Moss*

          9. Hines Ward

          10. Andre Reed

          12. Derrick Mason

          13. Tory Holt

          14. Keenan McCardell

          15. Jimmy Smith

          16. Muhsin Muhammed

          17. Irving Fryar

          18. Rod Smith

          19. Larry Centers

          Who is in, who is out?

          D. These are the non-kickers who have not made the HOF who are in the top 20 in career games played:

          14. Jim Marshall

          15. Trey Junkin

          17. Clay Matthews II

          19. Junior Seau

          Who is in, who is out?

          E. Finally, are there any kickers who you think should be elected to the HOF who have not been? Note: kickers that are in are Blanda, Groza, Hornung, Stenurud and that is it, and all but Stenurud played primarily at other positions.

          * means the player is still active.

          QB's Manning, Brady, Favre and Brees should all make it

          RBs LT is a definite and Bettis and Martin should both make it as well.

          WRs everyone up to Andre Reed should get in

          Kickers - Just Vinateri should get in.

          And Jamal Lewis definitly should not even sniff the HOF

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          • hoorta hoortaH Conversation Starter Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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            No disagreement with your picks Gip. But regarding kickers- there's one omission. Ray Guy should be in. You have to make room for the greatest punter ever.

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            • The GipperT The Gipper

              Today's Survey:

              A. Here are the list of the Quarterbacks who are in the All time Top 20 in career passing yards who are not yet in the HOF. The number next to their name lists where they rank in all time yardage. The gaps mean that the person in the missing number is already in the HOF. Tell us, who gets in, who doesn't:

              1. Brett Favre

              3. Peyton Manning*

              7. Vinny Testaverde

              8. Drew Bledsoe

              11. Kerry Collins*

              13. Dave Kreig

              14. Boomer Esiason

              15. Donovan McNabb*

              17. Drew Brees*

              18. Jim Everett

              19. Tom Brady*

              20. Jim Hart

              B. Now here is the similar for career yardage leaders in rushing yards:

              4. Curtis Martin

              5. Jerome Bettis

              6. LaDanian Tomlinson*

              11. Edgerrin James

              15. Fred Taylor*

              17. Corey Dillon

              19. Warrick Dunn

              20. Ricky Watters

              21. Jamal Lewis

              Who's in, who's out?

              C. And here is the list for Career Receptions (numbers, not yards):

              2. Marvin Harrison

              3. Chris Carter

              4. Tim Brown

              5. Terrell Owens*

              6. Tony Gonzales*

              7. Isaac Bruce

              8. Randy Moss*

              9. Hines Ward

              10. Andre Reed

              12. Derrick Mason

              13. Tory Holt

              14. Keenan McCardell

              15. Jimmy Smith

              16. Muhsin Muhammed

              17. Irving Fryar

              18. Rod Smith

              19. Larry Centers

              Who is in, who is out?

              D. These are the non-kickers who have not made the HOF who are in the top 20 in career games played:

              14. Jim Marshall

              15. Trey Junkin

              17. Clay Matthews II

              19. Junior Seau

              Who is in, who is out?

              E. Finally, are there any kickers who you think should be elected to the HOF who have not been? Note: kickers that are in are Blanda, Groza, Hornung, Stenurud and that is it, and all but Stenurud played primarily at other positions.

              * means the player is still active.

              ballpeen ballpeenB Conversation Starter Dedicated Reacting Well Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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              @the-gipper said:

              Today's Survey:

              A. Here are the list of the Quarterbacks who are in the All time Top 20 in career passing yards who are not yet in the HOF. The number next to their name lists where they rank in all time yardage. The gaps mean that the person in the missing number is already in the HOF. Tell us, who gets in, who doesn't:

              1. Brett Favre YES

              3. Peyton Manning* YES

              7. Vinny Testaverde

              8. Drew Bledsoe

              11. Kerry Collins*

              13. Dave Kreig

              14. Boomer Esiason

              15. Donovan McNabb*

              17. Drew Brees* ??

              18. Jim Everett

              19. Tom Brady* YES

              20. Jim Hart

              B. Now here is the similar for career yardage leaders in rushing yards:

              4. Curtis Martin YES

              5. Jerome Bettis YES

              6. LaDanian Tomlinson*

              11. Edgerrin James

              15. Fred Taylor*

              17. Corey Dillon

              19. Warrick Dunn

              20. Ricky Watters

              21. Jamal Lewis

              Who's in, who's out?

              C. And here is the list for Career Receptions (numbers, not yards):

              2. Marvin Harrison YES

              3. Chris Carter YES

              4. Tim Brown

              5. Terrell Owens* YES

              6. Tony Gonzales*

              7. Isaac Bruce

              8. Randy Moss*

              9. Hines Ward

              10. Andre Reed

              12. Derrick Mason

              13. Tory Holt

              14. Keenan McCardell

              15. Jimmy Smith

              16. Muhsin Muhammed

              17. Irving Fryar

              18. Rod Smith

              19. Larry Centers

              Who is in, who is out?

              D. These are the non-kickers who have not made the HOF who are in the top 20 in career games played:

              14. Jim Marshall BIG YES

              15. Trey Junkin

              17. Clay Matthews II

              19. Junior Seau

              Who is in, who is out?

              E. Finally, are there any kickers who you think should be elected to the HOF who have not been? Note: kickers that are in are Blanda, Groza, Hornung, Stenurud and that is it, and all but Stenurud played primarily at other positions.

              Morten Andersen and Ray Guy

              * means the player is still active.

              If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                No disagreement with your picks Gip. But regarding kickers- there's one omission. Ray Guy should be in. You have to make room for the greatest punter ever.

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                @hoorta said:

                No disagreement with your picks Gip. But regarding kickers- there's one omission. Ray Guy should be in. You have to make room for the greatest punter ever.

                Well said. I agree. I didn't think about him, but then this was not to be comprehensive for all positions. I didn't include a specific category for OL, or Defense, or punters, or Kick Returners.

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