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  • Haha do you hear yourself? Do you know what your saying?

    I can't argue with you cause you have no understanding of business and revenue, operating cost, ect...

    Just do a little research and come back at me.

    @wrrebel said:

    Haha do you hear yourself? Do you know what your saying?

    I can't argue with you cause you have no understanding of business and revenue, operating cost, ect...

    Just do a little research and come back at me.

    Doesn't matter. Go tell TC and me how spending the cap money on players this year turns the Browns into a Super bowl team.

  • ok so instead of beating the dead horse which i normally do. I will agree that we disagree on things and let it go.

    Lets hope for a clean game tonight with no injuries

  • Taylor Mays sure would be a nice upgrade over Ray Ventrone

  • i havent seen or read any evidence that that could be true. 49ers gave up on him after one horrendous year....pedigree as an athlete aside, he's an absolute liability in coverage and takes bad angles in run support. at least ventrone does all that at a fraction of the cost minus the attitude.

    his own coach passed him over...twice. he's a combine warrior with zero football skill. jmo...

  • For once I agree with choco for coco puff..

    49ers gave up on him cause he is terrible and a cancer in the locker room.

  • Ventrone is a cancer to winning, he gives the QB a 5 second count before reacting to a pass play. Mays atleast makes SOME plays and hits hard, 10x's the football player imo.

  • Ventrone is a cancer to winning, he gives the QB a 5 second count before reacting to a pass play. Mays atleast makes SOME plays and hits hard, 10x's the football player imo.

    @clevelandmilidh said:

    Ventrone is a cancer to winning, he gives the QB a 5 second count before reacting to a pass play. Mays atleast makes SOME plays and hits hard, 10x's the football player imo.

    so what your saying is the 49ers were dumb to give up on him? And 31 other teams were dumb not to trade for him?? Listen Mike Tyson hits hard also, maybe wee should sign him..

  • 16 games played, 6 started:

    38 solo tackles, 7 sacks and 1 fumble recovered.

    the 7 sacks are fairly impressive....so why did they give up on him so fast?

  • strangly enough taylor mays is a jew..

    http://www.jewornotjew.com/profile.jsp?ID=543

  • I thought it was a real dumb move to give up on a 2nd round pick after his freshmen year in the NFL. I'm guessing the coaching change had something to do with it.

    His first game started he had over 10 tackles and a fumble return for a TD. He's not without ability. I don't know what his attitude is like in the locker room,

    but he's young and if it was a problem it could be worked on.

  • which means the last 5 games he started he averaged.....a whopping 5.x tackles per game. so one monster game followed by a bunch o' touchdowns and yards given up.

    know how many he had this preseason in 3 games? 3....with one assist. no other stat lines.

    coaching change or not...same GM i believe. teams dont give up on 2nd round picks unless its a damn good reason. ill defer to their judgement cause by all accounts he was absolutely terrible at his position.

  • Averaging 5 tackles a game over a 16 game season adds up to a 80 tackle rookie year, not horrible. I don't think he's ever going to be an elite safety, but he can

    play in this league. And certainly an upgrade over Ventrone. If he ever gets to play in a defense that will use him much like the Steelers use Polamalu he'll be

    effective. Blitzing and Run support are his strength's so utilize him that way

  • So hes one dimensional. Got it.

    Just glad he's not a brown.

  • Strong Safeties are Strong Safeties for a reason, they struggle in pass defense. Doesn't mean he can't be effective though.

  • I don't know if you recognize it but the nfl is a passing league. Strong safeties must be able to cover. Its one of the big reasons roy williams safety was a liability in dallas.

  • ^troof!

    welcome to 21st century football milidh...

  • well, gotta say...for a 7th rounder in 2013, not a bad pickup. price was right, but thats an indicator of just what teams thought of him. only other team interested was da bears, who wanted to switch him to linebacker.

  • I don't know if you recognize it but the nfl is a passing league. Strong safeties must be able to cover. Its one of the big reasons roy williams safety was a liability in dallas.

    @wrrebel said:

    I don't know if you recognize it but the nfl is a passing league. Strong safeties must be able to cover. Its one of the big reasons roy williams safety was a liability in dallas.

    Does that mean Polamalu's a liability in Pittsburgh? Did you watch the superbowl? Aaron Rogers exposed his lack of coverage skills and attacked it. But he's one of

    the best safety's in the league right?? Yea....he is. Because he make's plays, and strikes fear in opposing WR's. These guys ain't out there to cover WR's one on

    one. Their enforcer's in the run game, provide over the top help and make jarring hits when a ball is caught over the middle. Very, very, very rarely will you ever

    see a SS lined up one on one with any player. That's just not there game.

  • @wrrebel said:

    I don't know if you recognize it but the nfl is a passing league. Strong safeties must be able to cover. Its one of the big reasons roy williams safety was a liability in dallas.

    Does that mean Polamalu's a liability in Pittsburgh? Did you watch the superbowl? Aaron Rogers exposed his lack of coverage skills and attacked it. But he's one of

    the best safety's in the league right?? Yea....he is. Because he make's plays, and strikes fear in opposing WR's. These guys ain't out there to cover WR's one on

    one. Their enforcer's in the run game, provide over the top help and make jarring hits when a ball is caught over the middle. Very, very, very rarely will you ever

    see a SS lined up one on one with any player. That's just not there game.

    @clevelandmilidh said:

    Does that mean Polamalu's a liability in Pittsburgh? Did you watch the superbowl? Aaron Rogers exposed his lack of coverage skills and attacked it. But he's one of

    the best safety's in the league right?? Yea....he is. Because he make's plays, and strikes fear in opposing WR's. These guys ain't out there to cover WR's one on

    one. Their enforcer's in the run game, provide over the top help and make jarring hits when a ball is caught over the middle. Very, very, very rarely will you ever

    see a SS lined up one on one with any player. That's just not there game.

    Really?? Your comparing Troy Polamalu to Taylor Mays? Or even Roy Williams.. HAHA OK

    Yes i agree against a number 1 WR your Strong Safety ussually will get exposed, but they have to have coveage skills. Troy is a ball hawk, so saying he just cant cover is a joke in itself. A SS lined up with a TE, RB over over the top coverage on a WR is what they hare know for.

    Considering alot of teams have 4 and 5 wrs set I think it is a safe bet they need to be able to cover some one.Offenses are inclined to attack with up to five wide receivers, confusing with constant shifts and multiple formations. Safeties have moved to the forefront as defenses fight back.

    At times, they still roam remote regions of the field like baseball center fielders. But they also must be football transformers, frequently asked to match up with quick slot receivers and cover them like cornerbacks or attack the line and stuff the run like linebackers or rush the quarterback on blitzes.

    Star safeties such as Troy Polamalu of the Pittsburgh Steelers and Ed Reed of the Baltimore Ravens have met the challenge, consistently making big plays all over the field and forcing offenses to identify their whereabouts at all times. So it's no surprise they are ranked No. 1 (Polamalu) and No. 2 (Reed) on USA TODAY's list of the best in the business. There are other standouts and other up-and-comers at the position. But with the skill set required to stand out on the back end, they aren't in abundance.

  • There's a huge difference in being a ball hawking safety and having coverage skills. Safety's play the ball and run to the ball and make a play on it. Their not covering one player, their reading the entire field.