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  • Ventrone is a cancer to winning, he gives the QB a 5 second count before reacting to a pass play. Mays atleast makes SOME plays and hits hard, 10x's the football player imo.

  • Ventrone is a cancer to winning, he gives the QB a 5 second count before reacting to a pass play. Mays atleast makes SOME plays and hits hard, 10x's the football player imo.

    @clevelandmilidh said:

    Ventrone is a cancer to winning, he gives the QB a 5 second count before reacting to a pass play. Mays atleast makes SOME plays and hits hard, 10x's the football player imo.

    so what your saying is the 49ers were dumb to give up on him? And 31 other teams were dumb not to trade for him?? Listen Mike Tyson hits hard also, maybe wee should sign him..

  • 16 games played, 6 started:

    38 solo tackles, 7 sacks and 1 fumble recovered.

    the 7 sacks are fairly impressive....so why did they give up on him so fast?

  • strangly enough taylor mays is a jew..

    http://www.jewornotjew.com/profile.jsp?ID=543

  • I thought it was a real dumb move to give up on a 2nd round pick after his freshmen year in the NFL. I'm guessing the coaching change had something to do with it.

    His first game started he had over 10 tackles and a fumble return for a TD. He's not without ability. I don't know what his attitude is like in the locker room,

    but he's young and if it was a problem it could be worked on.

  • which means the last 5 games he started he averaged.....a whopping 5.x tackles per game. so one monster game followed by a bunch o' touchdowns and yards given up.

    know how many he had this preseason in 3 games? 3....with one assist. no other stat lines.

    coaching change or not...same GM i believe. teams dont give up on 2nd round picks unless its a damn good reason. ill defer to their judgement cause by all accounts he was absolutely terrible at his position.

  • Averaging 5 tackles a game over a 16 game season adds up to a 80 tackle rookie year, not horrible. I don't think he's ever going to be an elite safety, but he can

    play in this league. And certainly an upgrade over Ventrone. If he ever gets to play in a defense that will use him much like the Steelers use Polamalu he'll be

    effective. Blitzing and Run support are his strength's so utilize him that way

  • So hes one dimensional. Got it.

    Just glad he's not a brown.

  • Strong Safeties are Strong Safeties for a reason, they struggle in pass defense. Doesn't mean he can't be effective though.

  • I don't know if you recognize it but the nfl is a passing league. Strong safeties must be able to cover. Its one of the big reasons roy williams safety was a liability in dallas.

  • ^troof!

    welcome to 21st century football milidh...

  • well, gotta say...for a 7th rounder in 2013, not a bad pickup. price was right, but thats an indicator of just what teams thought of him. only other team interested was da bears, who wanted to switch him to linebacker.

  • I don't know if you recognize it but the nfl is a passing league. Strong safeties must be able to cover. Its one of the big reasons roy williams safety was a liability in dallas.

    @wrrebel said:

    I don't know if you recognize it but the nfl is a passing league. Strong safeties must be able to cover. Its one of the big reasons roy williams safety was a liability in dallas.

    Does that mean Polamalu's a liability in Pittsburgh? Did you watch the superbowl? Aaron Rogers exposed his lack of coverage skills and attacked it. But he's one of

    the best safety's in the league right?? Yea....he is. Because he make's plays, and strikes fear in opposing WR's. These guys ain't out there to cover WR's one on

    one. Their enforcer's in the run game, provide over the top help and make jarring hits when a ball is caught over the middle. Very, very, very rarely will you ever

    see a SS lined up one on one with any player. That's just not there game.

  • @wrrebel said:

    I don't know if you recognize it but the nfl is a passing league. Strong safeties must be able to cover. Its one of the big reasons roy williams safety was a liability in dallas.

    Does that mean Polamalu's a liability in Pittsburgh? Did you watch the superbowl? Aaron Rogers exposed his lack of coverage skills and attacked it. But he's one of

    the best safety's in the league right?? Yea....he is. Because he make's plays, and strikes fear in opposing WR's. These guys ain't out there to cover WR's one on

    one. Their enforcer's in the run game, provide over the top help and make jarring hits when a ball is caught over the middle. Very, very, very rarely will you ever

    see a SS lined up one on one with any player. That's just not there game.

    @clevelandmilidh said:

    Does that mean Polamalu's a liability in Pittsburgh? Did you watch the superbowl? Aaron Rogers exposed his lack of coverage skills and attacked it. But he's one of

    the best safety's in the league right?? Yea....he is. Because he make's plays, and strikes fear in opposing WR's. These guys ain't out there to cover WR's one on

    one. Their enforcer's in the run game, provide over the top help and make jarring hits when a ball is caught over the middle. Very, very, very rarely will you ever

    see a SS lined up one on one with any player. That's just not there game.

    Really?? Your comparing Troy Polamalu to Taylor Mays? Or even Roy Williams.. HAHA OK

    Yes i agree against a number 1 WR your Strong Safety ussually will get exposed, but they have to have coveage skills. Troy is a ball hawk, so saying he just cant cover is a joke in itself. A SS lined up with a TE, RB over over the top coverage on a WR is what they hare know for.

    Considering alot of teams have 4 and 5 wrs set I think it is a safe bet they need to be able to cover some one.Offenses are inclined to attack with up to five wide receivers, confusing with constant shifts and multiple formations. Safeties have moved to the forefront as defenses fight back.

    At times, they still roam remote regions of the field like baseball center fielders. But they also must be football transformers, frequently asked to match up with quick slot receivers and cover them like cornerbacks or attack the line and stuff the run like linebackers or rush the quarterback on blitzes.

    Star safeties such as Troy Polamalu of the Pittsburgh Steelers and Ed Reed of the Baltimore Ravens have met the challenge, consistently making big plays all over the field and forcing offenses to identify their whereabouts at all times. So it's no surprise they are ranked No. 1 (Polamalu) and No. 2 (Reed) on USA TODAY's list of the best in the business. There are other standouts and other up-and-comers at the position. But with the skill set required to stand out on the back end, they aren't in abundance.

  • There's a huge difference in being a ball hawking safety and having coverage skills. Safety's play the ball and run to the ball and make a play on it. Their not covering one player, their reading the entire field.

  • Ok well I let this one play out. Let's see how mays does.

    If he ends up blowing, I'm right and ur wrong.

    If he ends up as even average, ur right..

    Fair enough?

  • Sounds good, not that I really care since he is a Bengal now. But wow, a 7th round pick and we could've upgraded on Ray Ventrone tremendously.

    First debate on here in awhile, felt good. 😉 Now if we can just get more people to chime in and stop lurking.