The Browns Could Draft As High As 4Th
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No way we get the #1 spot. Indy will not trade out and give up on (from all the hype) another potential franchise QB.
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I like barkley...
I'm not ready to throw in the towl on colt mccoy just yet. We need to surround him with some weapons and see what he can do.
When your team lacks talent, you need to have lots of draft picks. Trading all our picks for one player would be horrible idea.
One because who ever you drafted would have un reasonable expectations.
And b because of the lack of talent around them you would be setting someone up for failure.
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At this point, based on how things fall, the Browns could actually be drafting as high as 4th with their own pick and 22d to 25th with their second pick. Here is the current draft order with today's standings:
1. Colts
2. Vikings
3. Rams (could tie Vikes with loss tonight)
4 through 9: Browns, Panthers, Redskins, Jags, Dolphins, Buccaneers
10-13: Bills, Chiefs, Eagles, Seahawks
14-15: Cardinals, Chargers
16-21: Bengals, Titans, Raiders, Giants, Cowboys, Bears
22-25: Falcons (Browns pick), Lions, Broncos, Jets
26-31: 49ers, Saints, Texans, Ravens, Steelers, Patriots.
32. Packers
At this point, based on how things fall, the Browns could actually be drafting as high as 4th with their own pick and 22d to 25th with their second pick. Here is the current draft order with today's standings:
1. Colts
2. Vikings
3. Rams (could tie Vikes with loss tonight)
4 through 9: Browns, Panthers, Redskins, Jags, Dolphins, Buccaneers
10-13: Bills, Chiefs, Eagles, Seahawks
14-15: Cardinals, Chargers
16-21: Bengals, Titans, Raiders, Giants, Cowboys, Bears
22-25: Falcons (Browns pick), Lions, Broncos, Jets
26-31: 49ers, Saints, Texans, Ravens, Steelers, Patriots.
32. Packers
The schedule works in the favor of the Browns the rest of the way to get a higher pick
week 15-All the team that have 4 wins should lose next week
Week 16- Washington should win gets them to 5 wins
Panthers-Bucs play each other someone will win so theres another team to 5 wins
Jax,Cle, Miami, say Panthers lose
Week 17- Jax wins play Indy
If this happens I believe we would be drafting 6th, but with the Panthers they could easy steal one from someone to put us 5th, and I do not think Miami will win another game. You never know thou with coaching change sometimes players play out of there mind
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In terms of Andrew Luck, the Colts may consider trading you the number 1 overall pick for both of your first round picks and possibly a 4th rounder. The Colts owe Manning a ton of money and it makes very little sense to sit Luck for more than a year. Cleveland has to lose out and has to get the no lower than the 4th overall pick to attract Indy. Having 2 picks in the first to trade for the number 1 overall pick gives Cleveland an advantage neither Minnesota or St. Loius have. With so much invested in Manning the Colts want to win now as opposed to reloading for a future run, therefore 2 picks this year is way better than a 1st this year and next.
It may be hard for the Browns to lose their final game, if the Steelers lose to SF next Monday night. If the Steelers are going the wildcard route, Tomlin will sit any/every starter with a hint of injury (and James Harrison to keep him from getting suspended). Assuming a Steelers wildcard run, there will never be a more gift-wrapped game for the Browns to take. You'll have to look like you're intentionally throwing that game to lose it.
Still even if you can trade to get Luck, you have no recievers unless your team makes a big, big splash in FA, assuming there are some big names to pick up this off-season.
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Some good editing here.
Look at the play at 3:11. 479 Yards on a #2 defense. He is like Vick but is smart and can throw it.
Barkley almost looks as good as Luck. Look at ironically 3:11, him check down on 3 receivers. Check out minute 4:00, staying IN THE POCKET and delivers are perfect pass.
Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12 -
In terms of Andrew Luck, the Colts may consider trading you the number 1 overall pick for both of your first round picks and possibly a 4th rounder. The Colts owe Manning a ton of money and it makes very little sense to sit Luck for more than a year. Cleveland has to lose out and has to get the no lower than the 4th overall pick to attract Indy. Having 2 picks in the first to trade for the number 1 overall pick gives Cleveland an advantage neither Minnesota or St. Loius have. With so much invested in Manning the Colts want to win now as opposed to reloading for a future run, therefore 2 picks this year is way better than a 1st this year and next.
It may be hard for the Browns to lose their final game, if the Steelers lose to SF next Monday night. If the Steelers are going the wildcard route, Tomlin will sit any/every starter with a hint of injury (and James Harrison to keep him from getting suspended). Assuming a Steelers wildcard run, there will never be a more gift-wrapped game for the Browns to take. You'll have to look like you're intentionally throwing that game to lose it.
Still even if you can trade to get Luck, you have no recievers unless your team makes a big, big splash in FA, assuming there are some big names to pick up this off-season.
Endymion said:
In terms of Andrew Luck, the Colts may consider trading you the number 1 overall pick for both of your first round picks and possibly a 4th rounder. The Colts owe Manning a ton of money and it makes very little sense to sit Luck for more than a year. Cleveland has to lose out and has to get the no lower than the 4th overall pick to attract Indy. Having 2 picks in the first to trade for the number 1 overall pick gives Cleveland an advantage neither Minnesota or St. Loius have. With so much invested in Manning the Colts want to win now as opposed to reloading for a future run, therefore 2 picks this year is way better than a 1st this year and next.
I don't know. I think I have heard that it would take at least 3+ first round picks to get to move up to get him. That would mean both our #1s this year and next years...plus more picks.
It may be hard for the Browns to lose their final game, if the Steelers lose to SF next Monday night. If the Steelers are going the wildcard route, Tomlin will sit any/every starter with a hint of injury (and James Harrison to keep him from getting suspended). Assuming a Steelers wildcard run, there will never be a more gift-wrapped game for the Browns to take. You'll have to look like you're intentionally throwing that game to lose it.
I don't know. They have lost games like that before even giving their supposed best efforts
Still even if you can trade to get Luck, you have no recievers unless your team makes a big, big splash in FA, assuming there are some big names to pick up this off-season.
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Some good editing here.
Look at the play at 3:11. 479 Yards on a #2 defense. He is like Vick but is smart and can throw it.
Barkley almost looks as good as Luck. Look at ironically 3:11, him check down on 3 receivers. Check out minute 4:00, staying IN THE POCKET and delivers are perfect pass.
Some good editing here.
Look at the play at 3:11. 479 Yards on a #2 defense. He is like Vick but is smart and can throw it.
Barkley almost looks as good as Luck. Look at ironically 3:11, him check down on 3 receivers. Check out minute 4:00, staying IN THE POCKET and delivers are perfect pass.
These are all difficult to interpret how they will transform to the pros. I am sure you can find footage of Andre Ware where he looked like the best thing since sliced bread. Same for Matt Leinert.
You just don't know. You can only hope....if you take him.
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If we lose out, I'd get a WR with that first pick - both Jeffrey and Blackmon will be better than Jones. Yes, RG3 will be available but we have so many needs that a new QB is neither the answer nor the problem.
Then Kuechly with our second pick in the first round. If Burfict slips to the top of the second, which isn't implausible given his questionable character, he'd be a great value pick. We also need a pass-rushing RDE and CB help to replace the aging Sheldon.
We also need a RG at some point - Pashos is not an NFL starter.
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Blackmon at 4-6 and Minnifield at 22-25
Address LB OL rest of the draft to hit that crown jewel.
If i had a way to draft Barkley/Blackmon with two top 10 picks i might make some moves but without some type of ungodly give away of picks that won't happen so i would be happy with Black and Minni with the two picks.
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RG3 would be the flashy pick, and I would love him to be in Cleveland based on his personality and attitude alone.
But he doesn't get hit a lot, because he's so damn fast. A QB that doesn't get hit a lot in college doesn't normally translate into a QB who succeeds in the NFL. Cam Newton is like the perfect, prototypical scrambling QB. He is big. fast, and got slammed around a bunch in college. So much so that it's made him just as elusive and adept at shrugging off would-be tacklers in the NFL.
Guys who never get touched and simply outrun their opponents find that they can't outrun everyone in the NFL, and then they don't know what to do.
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Blackmon at 4-6 and Minnifield at 22-25
Address LB OL rest of the draft to hit that crown jewel.
If i had a way to draft Barkley/Blackmon with two top 10 picks i might make some moves but without some type of ungodly give away of picks that won't happen so i would be happy with Black and Minni with the two picks.
Blackmon at 4-6 and Minnifield at 22-25
Address LB OL rest of the draft to hit that crown jewel.
If i had a way to draft Barkley/Blackmon with two top 10 picks i might make some moves but without some type of ungodly give away of picks that won't happen so i would be happy with Black and Minni with the two picks.
+100!!!!!
what this guy said!
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Blackmon at 4-6 and Minnifield at 22-25
Address LB OL rest of the draft to hit that crown jewel.
If i had a way to draft Barkley/Blackmon with two top 10 picks i might make some moves but without some type of ungodly give away of picks that won't happen so i would be happy with Black and Minni with the two picks.
Blackmon at 4-6 and Minnifield at 22-25
Address LB OL rest of the draft to hit that crown jewel.
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Yes sir this is how it should be
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Blackmon at 4-6 and Minnifield at 22-25
Address LB OL rest of the draft to hit that crown jewel.
If i had a way to draft Barkley/Blackmon with two top 10 picks i might make some moves but without some type of ungodly give away of picks that won't happen so i would be happy with Black and Minni with the two picks.
Blackmon at 4-6 and Minnifield at 22-25
Address LB OL rest of the draft to hit that crown jewel.
If i had a way to draft Barkley/Blackmon with two top 10 picks i might make some moves but without some type of ungodly give away of picks that won't happen so i would be happy with Black and Minni with the two picks.
I would like to see Blackmon and then Zach Brown or Burfict if they slip to our second pick. The reason our linebackers suck is because they are slow. Why the hell would the draft a slow middle linebacker like Luke Keuchly. Manti Te'o is one I like much better than Keuchly but after the other two. Second round I would go either corner like Minnifield/Hosley or a Tackle like Levy Adcock or any others who may have slipped out of the first round.
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At this point, based on how things fall, the Browns could actually be drafting as high as 4th with their own pick and 22d to 25th with their second pick. Here is the current draft order with today's standings:
1. Colts
2. Vikings
3. Rams (could tie Vikes with loss tonight)
4 through 9: Browns, Panthers, Redskins, Jags, Dolphins, Buccaneers
10-13: Bills, Chiefs, Eagles, Seahawks
14-15: Cardinals, Chargers
16-21: Bengals, Titans, Raiders, Giants, Cowboys, Bears
22-25: Falcons (Browns pick), Lions, Broncos, Jets
26-31: 49ers, Saints, Texans, Ravens, Steelers, Patriots.
32. Packers
At this point, based on how things fall, the Browns could actually be drafting as high as 4th with their own pick and 22d to 25th with their second pick. Here is the current draft order with today's standings:
1. Colts
2. Vikings
3. Rams (could tie Vikes with loss tonight)
4 through 9: Browns, Panthers, Redskins, Jags, Dolphins, Buccaneers
10-13: Bills, Chiefs, Eagles, Seahawks
14-15: Cardinals, Chargers
16-21: Bengals, Titans, Raiders, Giants, Cowboys, Bears
22-25: Falcons (Browns pick), Lions, Broncos, Jets
26-31: 49ers, Saints, Texans, Ravens, Steelers, Patriots.
32. Packers
To be more realistic I believe we will get the 5th pick overall.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
I would take RG all day long. As long as he is allowed to dictate the offense around him. This WCO if all smoke and mirrors. A play is what transpires after the snap. RG is a guy who can think on his feet. Whoever drafts him needs to let him play HIS game and have plays designed aorund his strengths.
Picking the WCO ahead of the QB is idiotic.
As for McCoy, he is qualified to run the Shit in My Pants offense. He can't play.
I've seen RG3 in the nfl already, his name was Kordell Stewert.
Plz don't compare to Vick or Newton either.
In Cleveland failure is an artform. -
@king-ghoolie-lives said:
I would take RG all day long. As long as he is allowed to dictate the offense around him. This WCO if all smoke and mirrors. A play is what transpires after the snap. RG is a guy who can think on his feet. Whoever drafts him needs to let him play HIS game and have plays designed aorund his strengths.
Picking the WCO ahead of the QB is idiotic.
As for McCoy, he is qualified to run the Shit in My Pants offense. He can't play.
I would generally agree with you about a guy like RGIII and the WCO, then I think back to Steve Young who was as good a scrambling QB as we have seen, so it makes we wonder if perhaps and RGIII type might fit in.
Because you know that Holmgren and Shurmur are NOT going to change their offense. The guy is going to have to fit their system, not vice versa.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
I would take RG all day long. As long as he is allowed to dictate the offense around him. This WCO if all smoke and mirrors. A play is what transpires after the snap. RG is a guy who can think on his feet. Whoever drafts him needs to let him play HIS game and have plays designed aorund his strengths.
Picking the WCO ahead of the QB is idiotic.
As for McCoy, he is qualified to run the Shit in My Pants offense. He can't play.
I've seen RG3 in the nfl already, his name was Kordell Stewert.
Plz don't compare to Vick or Newton either.
I've seen RG3 in the nfl already, his name was Kordell Stewert.
Plz don't compare to Vick or Newton either.
Or Andre Ware, or Eric Crouch or Pat White or Dennis Dixon or David Klingler or Danny Wuerffel or Vince Young or Tavaris Jackson or Quincy Carter or Akili Smith or Troy Smith or Chris Weinke or Jason White or Charlie Ward.
On the other hand, is it possible he could be a Steve McNair or Brett Favre or Donovan McNabb or Josh Freeman or Mike Vick or Cam Newton?
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getting Offensive talent is mroe important then getting a good QB, in the Browns case. Lets worry about QB in 2013. If we trade down we can fill in 4+ holes which are at LB, CB, DE, WR, RB, RT
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Thats just it. It's always a gamble. They all look good coming out of college. Remember there was a debate between Manning and Leaf. So really you never know. I just realized the other day that Favre and Marinovich both came out in the same draft.
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