Peyton Confirmed To Be Released
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We could just try to entice Manning to come here.
Sign a big name WR (or whichever one he wants) continue to add to our already solid D in FA then draft him some weapons
I mean, it'll never happen, and probably isn't even that smart, but it'd still be cool to watch Manning play in a Browns uni
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Heckert: Browns won't chase Peyton Manning
By Marc Sessler NFL.com
The pipe dream that was Peyton Manning-to-the-Browns is over before it began. Cleveland general manager Tom Heckert, on the mend from heart surgery, dismissed the idea of entering the chase for the ex-Colts quarterback, now a free agent.
"That's probably not a direction we're going to go," Heckert told The Plain Dealer on Thursday, hammering home the reality that the Browns are unlikely to sign a big-name free-agent quarterback this offseason.
It's unlikely Manning was intrigued by the thought of playing for an under-construction Browns team with a distinct lack of weapons on offense, but what about Baylor's Robert Griffin III?
RG3's on Cleveland's radar, but Heckert clarified that the Baylor quarterback isn't the only passer the Browns find intriguing in next month's draft.
The GM "gushed about" Oklahoma State's Brandon Weedon, and added him to a list of four quarterbacks the Browns favor, including Stanford's Andrew Luck, Griffin and Texas A&M's Ryan Tannehill.
"I really like (Weedon) a lot," Heckert said. "We're going to see him (throw) tomorrow (at his Pro Day). He's mature and he's telling you it's a positive. He's a really interesting guy. He's super smart."
Lost in all of this is Colt McCoy, the gritty if underwhelming starter who soldiered through a trying 2011 season with the Browns.
"We still think Colt can play in this league and it's our job to help him out," Heckert said, adding that McCoy could see major improvement, "If we catch more balls, if we protect him more."
Browns fans will agree: Two phases of the game in short supply in Cleveland for far too long.
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Grinder said:
a proven guy and we will pass on him like we have on so many others.
Seriously?
1. He would never come here.
2. There is no way of knowing his health status.
3. He doesn't have many years left.
4. One big hit and it could end his career or leave him paralyzed.
As much as I like Manning, no thanks. We need a long term answer at qb, not a band aid.
Seriously?
1. He would never come here.
2. There is no way of knowing his health status.
3. He doesn't have many years left.
4. One big hit and it could end his career or leave him paralyzed.
As much as I like Manning, no thanks. We need a long term answer at qb, not a band aid.
As much as I don't want to admit it, I think it's true. Manning was with the Colts for about 14-15 years. Since he's been with the team for that long and the age he is now, it's going to be hard for him to find another team. If he eventually does find another team, how long will he last with that team before he realizes that he wants to retire. I think it's best that he retires because he's a bit old. He's 35. So in about what 3-4 years his body is going to turn against him and he won't be able to perform to the best of his ability like someone younger than him. Maybe his time is up. Sorry Manning but maybe you need to retire.
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Seriously?
1. He would never come here.
2. There is no way of knowing his health status.
3. He doesn't have many years left.
4. One big hit and it could end his career or leave him paralyzed.
As much as I like Manning, no thanks. We need a long term answer at qb, not a band aid.
As much as I don't want to admit it, I think it's true. Manning was with the Colts for about 14-15 years. Since he's been with the team for that long and the age he is now, it's going to be hard for him to find another team. If he eventually does find another team, how long will he last with that team before he realizes that he wants to retire. I think it's best that he retires because he's a bit old. He's 35. So in about what 3-4 years his body is going to turn against him and he won't be able to perform to the best of his ability like someone younger than him. Maybe his time is up. Sorry Manning but maybe you need to retire.
As much as I don't want to admit it, I think it's true. Manning was with the Colts for about 14-15 years. Since he's been with the team for that long and the age he is now, it's going to be hard for him to find another team. If he eventually does find another team, how long will he last with that team before he realizes that he wants to retire. I think it's best that he retires because he's a bit old. He's 35. So in about what 3-4 years his body is going to turn against him and he won't be able to perform to the best of his ability like someone younger than him. Maybe his time is up. Sorry Manning but maybe you need to retire.
No, by all indications as long as his nerve has regenerated he can be as good as ever. And it is not like other QBs haven't be productive who were as old or older as he is.
John Elway won 2 SBs at the age of 37 and 38.
Mark Brunell and Jeff Garcia were around to age 41.
Favre was in an NFC title game at age 40.
Charlie Batch is 37
Kerry Collins was active last year at age 39.
Matt Hasselbeck is 36.
Jon Kitna is 39.
Delhomme was 36 last year.
Donovan McNabb is 35.
John Unitas was 37 when he QBd the Colts to a SB win in 1970
Testaverde played til he was 41
Warren Moon played til he was 44
Marino and Montana played til 38....and they took teams to the playoffs in their last year or two.
No, a 35 year old Peyton Manning....as long as his nerves have healed can play several more good years.
(Note: the reports are that he is in no worse danger of serious injury than any other QB is even with his fused disks. Again, the only thing that could be problematical is the regerneration of the nerve, and all indications are that that process is either complete or nearly complete)
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As much as I don't want to admit it, I think it's true. Manning was with the Colts for about 14-15 years. Since he's been with the team for that long and the age he is now, it's going to be hard for him to find another team. If he eventually does find another team, how long will he last with that team before he realizes that he wants to retire. I think it's best that he retires because he's a bit old. He's 35. So in about what 3-4 years his body is going to turn against him and he won't be able to perform to the best of his ability like someone younger than him. Maybe his time is up. Sorry Manning but maybe you need to retire.
No, by all indications as long as his nerve has regenerated he can be as good as ever. And it is not like other QBs haven't be productive who were as old or older as he is.
John Elway won 2 SBs at the age of 37 and 38.
Mark Brunell and Jeff Garcia were around to age 41.
Favre was in an NFC title game at age 40.
Charlie Batch is 37
Kerry Collins was active last year at age 39.
Matt Hasselbeck is 36.
Jon Kitna is 39.
Delhomme was 36 last year.
Donovan McNabb is 35.
John Unitas was 37 when he QBd the Colts to a SB win in 1970
Testaverde played til he was 41
Warren Moon played til he was 44
Marino and Montana played til 38....and they took teams to the playoffs in their last year or two.
No, a 35 year old Peyton Manning....as long as his nerves have healed can play several more good years.
(Note: the reports are that he is in no worse danger of serious injury than any other QB is even with his fused disks. Again, the only thing that could be problematical is the regerneration of the nerve, and all indications are that that process is either complete or nearly complete)
No, by all indications as long as his nerve has regenerated he can be as good as ever. And it is not like other QBs haven't be productive who were as old or older as he is.
John Elway won 2 SBs at the age of 37 and 38.
Mark Brunell and Jeff Garcia were around to age 41.
Favre was in an NFC title game at age 40.
Charlie Batch is 37
Kerry Collins was active last year at age 39.
Matt Hasselbeck is 36.
Jon Kitna is 39.
Delhomme was 36 last year.
Donovan McNabb is 35.
John Unitas was 37 when he QBd the Colts to a SB win in 1970
Testaverde played til he was 41
Warren Moon played til he was 44
Marino and Montana played til 38....and they took teams to the playoffs in their last year or two.
No, a 35 year old Peyton Manning....as long as his nerves have healed can play several more good years.
(Note: the reports are that he is in no worse danger of serious injury than any other QB is even with his fused disks. Again, the only thing that could be problematical is the regerneration of the nerve, and all indications are that that process is either complete or nearly complete)
Gip, there's a difference between "playing" and "playing at the highest level". Manning is going to expect to get paid at the highest level. I won't bother to look it up on Pro football reference, but I'm betting at least 1\2 the guys you put on your list were totally washed up the last couple of years of their careers.
Batch- bench warmer. McNabb dumped by Eagles and Vikings. Collins active @ 39- I think there's some folks in nursing homes that are still "active" @ 90.
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To those that said I was wrong about point #4 being incorrect on the title post, here is an ap link. The issue is nerve regeneration in his muscles/arm (ie strength). He has no more inherent risk coming back than anyone else.
http://m.apnews.mobi/ap/db_6719/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=pi2NzYIk
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No, by all indications as long as his nerve has regenerated he can be as good as ever. And it is not like other QBs haven't be productive who were as old or older as he is.
John Elway won 2 SBs at the age of 37 and 38.
Mark Brunell and Jeff Garcia were around to age 41.
Favre was in an NFC title game at age 40.
Charlie Batch is 37
Kerry Collins was active last year at age 39.
Matt Hasselbeck is 36.
Jon Kitna is 39.
Delhomme was 36 last year.
Donovan McNabb is 35.
John Unitas was 37 when he QBd the Colts to a SB win in 1970
Testaverde played til he was 41
Warren Moon played til he was 44
Marino and Montana played til 38....and they took teams to the playoffs in their last year or two.
No, a 35 year old Peyton Manning....as long as his nerves have healed can play several more good years.
(Note: the reports are that he is in no worse danger of serious injury than any other QB is even with his fused disks. Again, the only thing that could be problematical is the regerneration of the nerve, and all indications are that that process is either complete or nearly complete)
Gip, there's a difference between "playing" and "playing at the highest level". Manning is going to expect to get paid at the highest level. I won't bother to look it up on Pro football reference, but I'm betting at least 1\2 the guys you put on your list were totally washed up the last couple of years of their careers.
Batch- bench warmer. McNabb dumped by Eagles and Vikings. Collins active @ 39- I think there's some folks in nursing homes that are still "active" @ 90.
Gip, there's a difference between "playing" and "playing at the highest level". Manning is going to expect to get paid at the highest level. I won't bother to look it up on Pro football reference, but I'm betting at least 1\2 the guys you put on your list were totally washed up the last couple of years of their careers.
Batch- bench warmer. McNabb dumped by Eagles and Vikings. Collins active @ 39- I think there's some folks in nursing homes that are still "active" @ 90.
OK, but: Elway: 2 Super Bowl wins
Unitas: 1 Super Bowl win
Montana: took team to AFC title game
Favre: took team to NFC title game
For someone as supremely talented as Manning, I see him having 3 more years of playoff caliber play....assuming his nerve has regenerated. Sure, it won't be with the Browns....and unless it was with the Browns who would care if he flopped around like fish because he was too old and hurt? I just don't think he is too old or too hurt.
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To those that said I was wrong about point #4 being incorrect on the title post, here is an ap link. The issue is nerve regeneration in his muscles/arm (ie strength). He has no more inherent risk coming back than anyone else.
http://m.apnews.mobi/ap/db_6719/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=pi2NzYIk
To those that said I was wrong about point #4 being incorrect on the title post, here is an ap link. The issue is nerve regeneration in his muscles/arm (ie strength). He has no more inherent risk coming back than anyone else.
http://m.apnews.mobi/ap/db_6719/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=pi2NzYIk
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If you were Jim Irsay, would you do what he did to Peyton Manning?
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Gip, there's a difference between "playing" and "playing at the highest level". Manning is going to expect to get paid at the highest level. I won't bother to look it up on Pro football reference, but I'm betting at least 1\2 the guys you put on your list were totally washed up the last couple of years of their careers.
Batch- bench warmer. McNabb dumped by Eagles and Vikings. Collins active @ 39- I think there's some folks in nursing homes that are still "active" @ 90.
OK, but: Elway: 2 Super Bowl wins
Unitas: 1 Super Bowl win
Montana: took team to AFC title game
Favre: took team to NFC title game
For someone as supremely talented as Manning, I see him having 3 more years of playoff caliber play....assuming his nerve has regenerated. Sure, it won't be with the Browns....and unless it was with the Browns who would care if he flopped around like fish because he was too old and hurt? I just don't think he is too old or too hurt.
OK, but: Unitas: 1 Super Bowl win.
FYI... Johnnie U was knocked out of SB V in its 2nd Qtr. His stats were 3/9 for 88 yds w/ 1 TD and 2 INT. And 75 of his 88 yds were on one play, a TD pass to Mackey. So he hardly won the game for the Colts.
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OK, but: Unitas: 1 Super Bowl win.
FYI... Johnnie U was knocked out of SB V in its 2nd Qtr. His stats were 3/9 for 88 yds w/ 1 TD and 2 INT. And 75 of his 88 yds were on one play, a TD pass to Mackey. So he hardly won the game for the Colts.
FYI... Johnnie U was knocked out of SB V in its 2nd Qtr. His stats were 3/9 for 88 yds w/ 1 TD and 2 INT. And 75 of his 88 yds were on one play, a TD pass to Mackey. So he hardly won the game for the Colts.
Well, he was the starter and helped score the only TD in the game which was only a 16-13 game.
How did the Colts win that game...and win that season, with an aged Unitas?
Great defense and running.
So, its a lesson to be learned. Any number of QBs were won by teams who had less than a stellar performer at QB.
The Browns need to build their defense and offensive line. Then fill in with the QB they need. And honestly, that may not happen for a couple of years.
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The 49ers could potentially be beastly next year
Sign Manning
Sign Wayne and Moss
Draft whoever
QB: Manning
WR: Wayne, Moss, Crabtree
TE: Davis
HB: Gore
plus they already have a great D
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The 49ers could potentially be beastly next year
Sign Manning
Sign Wayne and Moss
Draft whoever
QB: Manning
WR: Wayne, Moss, Crabtree
TE: Davis
HB: Gore
plus they already have a great D
The 49ers could potentially be beastly next year
Sign Manning
Sign Wayne and Moss
Draft whoever
QB: Manning
WR: Wayne, Moss, Crabtree
TE: Davis
HB: Gore
plus they already have a great D
What the hell, maybe the Browns should go after Randy Moss. Why not? Get him for nothing. Give him an incentive laden contract. If he blows up, nothing is lost but a little money.
I mean, what "lockerroom chemistry" is there with the Browns that he can destroy? Their winning attitude?
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FYI... Johnnie U was knocked out of SB V in its 2nd Qtr. His stats were 3/9 for 88 yds w/ 1 TD and 2 INT. And 75 of his 88 yds were on one play, a TD pass to Mackey. So he hardly won the game for the Colts.
Well, he was the starter and helped score the only TD in the game which was only a 16-13 game.
How did the Colts win that game...and win that season, with an aged Unitas?
Great defense and running.
So, its a lesson to be learned. Any number of QBs were won by teams who had less than a stellar performer at QB.
The Browns need to build their defense and offensive line. Then fill in with the QB they need. And honestly, that may not happen for a couple of years.
Well, he was the starter and helped score the only TD in the game which was only a 16-13 game.
How did the Colts win that game...and win that season, with an aged Unitas?
Great defense and running.
So, its a lesson to be learned. Any number of SBs EDIT were won by teams who had less than a stellar performer at QB.
The Browns need to build their defense and offensive line. Then fill in with the QB they need. And honestly, that may not happen for a couple of years.
Well, since we missed out on RGIII, may as well go the Steeler's route and wait until another Rothlisberger drops into our lap. I just hope it's this year or next- I'm not getting any younger.
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