On Record Draft Selection
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I think Claiborne at 4 and then best RB available, with either a QB or a WR in the second round. That could mean a 3rd round WR as the first receiver picked. Call me crazy but here's my logic:
It's a deep class at WR and they have said a lot of things to distract people from Claiborne. I think they see the talent as well above the other options (Richardson or Blackmon) and the need to be just as great. So we have 4 picks in the first three rounds and we need a WR, DB, QB and RB (and linemen, etc). The question is how do the Browns get the best combination of the four. Caliborne totally solidifies the D, with perhaps a couple of later round DE's and OLB's. But right now, it's a glaring weakness in a pass-oriented league. There are a couple of good RB's but waiting for the second round is a gamble and a steep drop=off in talent. So I think they'll pick the RB up in the first round. In the 2nd round, if they've identified a QB and he's still there, they'll go for him. As there will be some good quality selections at WR in the third round.
On average, this is the best strategy for the Browns. It starts with Claiborne and then they'll watch the board and potentially change strategy if someone drops. But my call is Claiborne (DB), RB, QB, WR, OT, OG, in that order, in the first 4 rounds. 4 or 5 of the 6 will be starters in game 1 (DB, RB, WR, OT and possibly OG)
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Fisher came out and said that the Browns are a possible trade partner with the Rams. How fucking stupid is that. You snub the Browns who have the better deal by picking ahead of the Skins and offer a second 1st rounder this year, claim it wasn't because of any relationship you have with Shanahan, and then say you are looking into a draft day trade with the Browns to move up to 4... THE SPOT YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN PICKING AT IF YOU HAD TAKEN OUR BETTER OFFER!
People think our team is run by a bunch of morons.
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Don't get mad, HB, get even...
If Rams want our #4, fine... just make 'em overpay for it.
The #6, their #34 and their #38 (via the 'Skins) would be a fine place to open discussions.
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our offer wasn't better. we offered 3 firsts if you believe the reports....skinsmatched the 3 firsts and threw in an additional 2nd, so im not sure how ours was better. for our #22 to be better than a skins 1st rd, they'll have to make the playoffs....certainly possible.
word is that we tried a counter offer, which were not permitted by les snead. so it boils down to who you believe, cause someone's lying. holmgren says one thing, snead says another. being as i dont see any motivation for snead calling the walrus a liar, chances are much greater that holmgren misled his season ticket holders due to pressure and backlash if he told the truth. irony being, no one would have been upset with the truth.
we made an offer....the skins made a bigger offer, move on. but no..just like his superbowl loss, holmgren goes public with his griping and whining effectively shoving his foot into his mouth...again.
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Don't get mad, HB, get even...
If Rams want our #4, fine... just make 'em overpay for it.
The #6, their #34 and their #38 (via the 'Skins) would be a fine place to open discussions.
Don't get mad, HB, get even...
If Rams want our #4, fine... just make 'em overpay for it.
The #6, their #34 and their #38 (via the 'Skins) would be a fine place to open discussions.
He seems dickish when he was talking about it. Like he wouldn't be willing to give up a 2nd rounder to move up even though it's value.
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I was watching NFL Network yesterday and they talked about us taking Weeden at #22. Makes no sense to me- Everyone is hung up on his age- he would easily fall to #37.
So I guess i don't get this regimes thinking- you want to trade back to get more picks or better value (trade back and take a guy like Richardson) yet you over value someone like Weeden. If he's taken at #22- I'm lost.
It would be nice to put all the pieces in place get a RT and a couple playmakers- evaluate Colt over the season and decide at that point where you are at and where you need to be at the position.
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I was watching NFL Network yesterday and they talked about us taking Weeden at #22. Makes no sense to me- Everyone is hung up on his age- he would easily fall to #37.
So I guess i don't get this regimes thinking- you want to trade back to get more picks or better value (trade back and take a guy like Richardson) yet you over value someone like Weeden. If he's taken at #22- I'm lost.
It would be nice to put all the pieces in place get a RT and a couple playmakers- evaluate Colt over the season and decide at that point where you are at and where you need to be at the position.
I was watching NFL Network yesterday and they talked about us taking Weeden at #22. Makes no sense to me- Everyone is hung up on his age- he would easily fall to #37.
So I guess i don't get this regimes thinking- you want to trade back to get more picks or better value (trade back and take a guy like Richardson) yet you over value someone like Weeden. If he's taken at #22- I'm lost.
It would be nice to put all the pieces in place get a RT and a couple playmakers- evaluate Colt over the season and decide at that point where you are at and where you need to be at the position.
If we take Weeden at all at 22 37 60 03923875 I'll write a very detailed letter to HnH Explaining why they can completely go fuck themselves.
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I was watching NFL Network yesterday and they talked about us taking Weeden at #22. Makes no sense to me- Everyone is hung up on his age- he would easily fall to #37.
So I guess i don't get this regimes thinking- you want to trade back to get more picks or better value (trade back and take a guy like Richardson) yet you over value someone like Weeden. If he's taken at #22- I'm lost.
It would be nice to put all the pieces in place get a RT and a couple playmakers- evaluate Colt over the season and decide at that point where you are at and where you need to be at the position.
If we take Weeden at all at 22 37 60 03923875 I'll write a very detailed letter to HnH Explaining why they can completely go fuck themselves.
If we take Weeden at all at 22 37 60 03923875 I'll write a very detailed letter to HnH Explaining why they can completely go fuck themselves.
I actually think Weeden would be a great move later on in the draft. Rounds 1-3 should not be where we take him unless we pick up a shit ton of second round picks via trades and can AFFORD to take a flier on him.
As far as the NFL network is concerned that is all speculation from "draft insiders" those guys get paid to speculate it is their job. I wouldn't put much stock in it. None of them saw us taking Taylor, Sheard, Ward ... and the list goes on.
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Wow, are some of us really considering "Weeden"... WEEDEN?
The dude is as old as Jake Delhomme! ...wow, desperate times call for desperate measures I guess...
Give Colt 3 or 4 more years and when he gets to be weeden's(snicker) age, he'll be a hell of a lot better than Weeden... Weeden will probably be retired by then anyway... C'mon people he'll be a 29 year old rookie?
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I'm not saying that it is not possible but because a couple of guys worked out it's the rule and not the exception? Miracles CAN happen but realistically just because they have happened before doesn't mean it's for sure going to happen again. Kurt Warner was a fairy tale come true, grocery bager to superbowl champ... it's just not likely to happen again.
I don't know, maybe I'm just a bitter 30 year old that wishes that it was me in his place... it's not a good reason to diss the guy, my bad. I wish him the best of luck and hope all his dreams come true. I just like Colt much, much more I guess. I'll tell you what though, I would be happy to have him take Seneca Wallace's place as a backup to Colt. I really don't like Seneca that much at all.
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My Brother seems 100% Convinced
4. M.Claiborne
22. M.Floyd
37. L.James
Spent 20 minutes trying to convince me this is our draft was like i'll post it for you to see later if u called it cuz i wont remember lol
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My Brother seems 100% Convinced
4. M.Claiborne
22. M.Floyd
37. L.James
Spent 20 minutes trying to convince me this is our draft was like i'll post it for you to see later if u called it cuz i wont remember lol
My Brother seems 100% Convinced
4. M.Claiborne
22. M.Floyd
37. L.James
Spent 20 minutes trying to convince me this is our draft was like i'll post it for you to see later if u called it cuz i wont remember lol
If we pulled this off i'd be a happy man.
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My Brother seems 100% Convinced
4. M.Claiborne
22. M.Floyd
37. L.James
Spent 20 minutes trying to convince me this is our draft was like i'll post it for you to see later if u called it cuz i wont remember lol
My Brother seems 100% Convinced
4. M.Claiborne
22. M.Floyd
37. L.James
Spent 20 minutes trying to convince me this is our draft was like i'll post it for you to see later if u called it cuz i wont remember lol
Floyd will not be there at 22. Can almost guarantee that...
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Not comparing the two...but how old was Warren Moon when he was an NFL rookie? How about Doug Flutie or Kurt Warner?
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My Brother seems 100% Convinced
4. M.Claiborne
22. M.Floyd
37. L.James
Spent 20 minutes trying to convince me this is our draft was like i'll post it for you to see later if u called it cuz i wont remember lol
My Brother seems 100% Convinced
4. M.Claiborne
22. M.Floyd
37. L.James
Spent 20 minutes trying to convince me this is our draft was like i'll post it for you to see later if u called it cuz i wont remember lol
I would have no problem with that if it could happen.
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Personally my favorite mock is my own
#04- Richardson
#22- Floyd/Wright/Hill
#37- Best available RT
3rd- Minnifield
4th- Burfict
4th- Osweiler
BPA on out...
This draft is the most complete that I've seen.
A)Gives us a legitimate RB threat, best since AP- Maybe Emmit Smith
B)Addresses and upgrades the WR position opposite Greg Little
C)Shores up the OL and completes it, for now.
D)Gives us a good CB or FS with Cleveland ties and roots
E)Provides an animal a LB, one with question marks but DQ could have a good influence and mentor him
F)Brings in a young QB to compete against Colt, I think Brock has potential anyways.
G)Still leaves Heckert 7 picks to work his draft skill and knowledge with, I'm sure he can net some gems in there somewhere.
After the above draft our needs and weaknesses should be somewhat diminished right?
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Said this morning that to the delight of some Richardson is being brought in for a visit, and to the dismay of others Weeden and Cousins are being brought in as well.
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Personally my favorite mock is my own
#04- Richardson
#22- Floyd/Wright/Hill
#37- Best available RT
3rd- Minnifield
4th- Burfict
4th- Osweiler
BPA on out...
This draft is the most complete that I've seen.
A)Gives us a legitimate RB threat, best since AP- Maybe Emmit Smith
B)Addresses and upgrades the WR position opposite Greg Little
C)Shores up the OL and completes it, for now.
D)Gives us a good CB or FS with Cleveland ties and roots
E)Provides an animal a LB, one with question marks but DQ could have a good influence and mentor him
F)Brings in a young QB to compete against Colt, I think Brock has potential anyways.
G)Still leaves Heckert 7 picks to work his draft skill and knowledge with, I'm sure he can net some gems in there somewhere.
After the above draft our needs and weaknesses should be somewhat diminished right?
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are you suggesting, PG, that the first 4 rounds are not BPA? kinda looks like it from here.
#22: a drunk with serious character issues, small guy with average speed and no strength, a guy from a run first offense thats a workout warrior.
#37: drafting for need hmmm?
3rd: drafting based on name?
4th: a thug that flunked not only the combine, but his pro day...
know what your mock draft looks like? a list of players you like for reasons other than football ability. so its not really a mock draft at all....just your list of personal favorites.
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