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Chud Hire Means We Are Going After Ej Manuel

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    B brownfish wrote on last edited by
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    I'm usually pretty negative...even my Mommas mashed potatoes can be lumpy at times...but i'm pretty excited about this hire, and the potential of getting EJ and Chud together...damn, this is going to be a great Year. I'm torn between letting Dawson go, but the Browns need stars of the past that kids can look up to...10 years from now i want to see Dawsons name hanging next to Grozas. He can kick for another 3-5 years...we have cap space. We need to pick up 2 great cover corners a couple of studs on D an awesome punter and EJ and hell we are stacked!!! ok, maybe one other key...a hall of fame fullback and we can say Dynasty!!!!

    Browns 2015 Super Bowl!!!

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      EJ Manuel sucks, I hope not.

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        I'm usually pretty negative...even my Mommas mashed potatoes can be lumpy at times...but i'm pretty excited about this hire, and the potential of getting EJ and Chud together...damn, this is going to be a great Year. I'm torn between letting Dawson go, but the Browns need stars of the past that kids can look up to...10 years from now i want to see Dawsons name hanging next to Grozas. He can kick for another 3-5 years...we have cap space. We need to pick up 2 great cover corners a couple of studs on D an awesome punter and EJ and hell we are stacked!!! ok, maybe one other key...a hall of fame fullback and we can say Dynasty!!!!

        Browns 2015 Super Bowl!!!

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        @brownfish said:

        I'm usually pretty negative...even my Mommas mashed potatoes can be lumpy at times...but i'm pretty excited about this hire, and the potential of getting EJ and Chud together...damn, this is going to be a great Year. I'm torn between letting Dawson go, but the Browns need stars of the past that kids can look up to...10 years from now i want to see Dawsons name hanging next to Grozas. He can kick for another 3-5 years...we have cap space. We need to pick up 2 great cover corners a couple of studs on D an awesome punter and EJ and hell we are stacked!!! ok, maybe one other key...a hall of fame fullback and we can say Dynasty!!!!

        Browns 2015 Super Bowl!!!

        I don't see what one has to do with the other.

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          I'm usually pretty negative...even my Mommas mashed potatoes can be lumpy at times...but i'm pretty excited about this hire, and the potential of getting EJ and Chud together...damn, this is going to be a great Year. I'm torn between letting Dawson go, but the Browns need stars of the past that kids can look up to...10 years from now i want to see Dawsons name hanging next to Grozas. He can kick for another 3-5 years...we have cap space. We need to pick up 2 great cover corners a couple of studs on D an awesome punter and EJ and hell we are stacked!!! ok, maybe one other key...a hall of fame fullback and we can say Dynasty!!!!

          Browns 2015 Super Bowl!!!

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          @brownfish said:

          I'm usually pretty negative...even my Mommas mashed potatoes can be lumpy at times...but i'm pretty excited about this hire, and the potential of getting EJ and Chud together...damn, this is going to be a great Year. I'm torn between letting Dawson go, but the Browns need stars of the past that kids can look up to...10 years from now i want to see Dawsons name hanging next to Grozas. He can kick for another 3-5 years...we have cap space. We need to pick up 2 great cover corners a couple of studs on D an awesome punter and EJ and hell we are stacked!!! ok, maybe one other key...a hall of fame fullback and we can say Dynasty!!!!

          Browns 2015 Super Bowl!!!

          Wow, Jamarcus Russell - Ponder- Manuel. hurt, over rated. No thanks.

          Browns will almost certainly go D first round- they already spent the second on Gordon.

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            miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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            we have to go D first. either a monster LB DE or CB from the SEC. no doubt about it.

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              Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo wrote on last edited by
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              Weeden is the type of arm Chud normally goes with anyway. He will get another season. You will see instead us going after a D player considering that we will most likely we switching back to the 3-4 or trading back and picking up a Guard or TE (TE being Chuds most beloved position).

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                Mark it down, the pick will be Jones or Moore

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                  Mark it down, the pick will be Jones or Moore

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                    ITHIKAI ITHIKA wrote on last edited by ITHIKA
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                    u guys that are saying Jones, Manuel, Moore, Running Option QB are delusional! Chud can take or leave a running QB in his system. Do you think the panthers would run the option with Derek Anderson if Cam Newton went down? Come on guys! Chuds offense is predicated on TE's being heavily involved and deep passing routes. The prerequisite for a QB in his offense is to have a strong arm to make all the throws. Also, as has just been announced Turner will be our OC and last i checked he dint run the option in SD. Put the drafting a speedy QB to rest now guys!

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                      u guys that are saying Jones, Manuel, Moore, Running Option QB are delusional! Chud can take or leave a running QB in his system. Do you think the panthers would run the option with Derek Anderson if Cam Newton went down? Come on guys! Chuds offense is predicated on TE's being heavily involved and deep passing routes. The prerequisite for a QB in his offense is to have a strong arm to make all the throws. Also, as has just been announced Turner will be our OC and last i checked he dint run the option in SD. Put the drafting a speedy QB to rest now guys!

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                      @ithika said:

                      u guys that are saying Jones, Manuel, Moore, Running Option QB are delusional! Chud can take or leave a running QB in his system. Do you think the panthers would run the option with Derek Anderson if Cam Newton went down? Come on guys! Chuds offense is predicated on TE's being heavily involved and deep passing routes. The prerequisite for a QB in his offense is to have a strong arm to make all the throws. Also, as has just been announced Turner will be our OC and last i checked he dint run the option in SD. Put the drafting a speedy QB to rest now guys!

                      no doubt watching Ozzie Newsome burn corners and safeties all the time!

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                        LoyaltyL Loyalty wrote on last edited by
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                        Making the throws is key... Weeden made some throws but then he would follow those with 3-4 terrible decisions or god awful overthrows. He will be 30 this October. I don't think there is a Franchise QB in this draft, but if there is - we need to find him.

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                          If the pick is D, and Millner is there, might as well pencil it in. 2 shut down corners make the D line and LB's that much better and effective.

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                            If the pick is D, and Millner is there, might as well pencil it in. 2 shut down corners make the D line and LB's that much better and effective.

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                            @blitzz2 said:

                            If the pick is D, and Millner is there, might as well pencil it in. 2 shut down corners make the D line and LB's that much better and effective.

                            Because it worked so well for Philly and the Jets.

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                              @blitzz2 said:

                              If the pick is D, and Millner is there, might as well pencil it in. 2 shut down corners make the D line and LB's that much better and effective.

                              Because it worked so well for Philly and the Jets.

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                              LoyaltyL Loyalty wrote on last edited by
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                              Because it worked so well for Philly and the Jets.

                              I don't think two shut down corners are necessarily what we 'need'. Just having enough speed and smarts to make plays... Hell, Sheldon Brown even made some plays this year. I have a feeling we will go after some more DBs in later round but I wouldn't be surprised if they take 'the best available' at #6.

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                                @blitzz2 said:

                                If the pick is D, and Millner is there, might as well pencil it in. 2 shut down corners make the D line and LB's that much better and effective.

                                Because it worked so well for Philly and the Jets.

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                                @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

                                Because it worked so well for Philly and the Jets.

                                Hmm, Revis went down, only shut down corner they had. Cromartie was never a shut down corner in SD,so they were fleeced when they picked him up. Laron landry had one of his best tackling seasons, but other than that a average S.

                                Their LB core is ok, but getting up there. average age of 30. David Harris is still pretty good.

                                D line, who they have?

                                Eagles, get what you pay for, well in this case maybe not. Funny how things work out.

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                                  If the pick is D, and Millner is there, might as well pencil it in. 2 shut down corners make the D line and LB's that much better and effective.

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                                  Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo wrote on last edited by
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                                  @blitzz2 said:

                                  If the pick is D, and Millner is there, might as well pencil it in. 2 shut down corners make the D line and LB's that much better and effective.

                                  When your top sacker on the team finished the season with 7 and he will more than likely have to switch positions to stay on the team, alone with the fact that our second best sacker is 35 and has never and will never play OLB, your priority in the draft is going to be that great 3-4 OLB pass rush specialist. Thank god there are a few good ones available this year, even if we trade down a bit.

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                                    @blitzz2 said:

                                    If the pick is D, and Millner is there, might as well pencil it in. 2 shut down corners make the D line and LB's that much better and effective.

                                    When your top sacker on the team finished the season with 7 and he will more than likely have to switch positions to stay on the team, alone with the fact that our second best sacker is 35 and has never and will never play OLB, your priority in the draft is going to be that great 3-4 OLB pass rush specialist. Thank god there are a few good ones available this year, even if we trade down a bit.

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                                    @harry-buffalo said:

                                    When your top sacker on the team finished the season with 7 and he will more than likely have to switch positions to stay on the team, alone with the fact that our second best sacker is 35 and has never and will never play OLB, your priority in the draft is going to be that great 3-4 OLB pass rush specialist. Thank god there are a few good ones available this year, even if we trade down a bit.

                                    Ok, i'll give you that. But if you have 2 corners that can shut down. That in turn will give the Dline and lb's more time to make the plays we have been lacking....What do they call them, coverage sacks. But again this is all dependent on if they switch to the 3-4 sigh again. I'm all for the trading down, but staying in the 10-16 range and ;maybe a 2nd round pick thrown in as well. Is there anyone that will be willing to trade into that spot and add the 2nd rd. pick?

                                    GO After Cliff Avril in FA, I would like him and Sheard on the ends.

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                                      When your top sacker on the team finished the season with 7 and he will more than likely have to switch positions to stay on the team, alone with the fact that our second best sacker is 35 and has never and will never play OLB, your priority in the draft is going to be that great 3-4 OLB pass rush specialist. Thank god there are a few good ones available this year, even if we trade down a bit.

                                      Ok, i'll give you that. But if you have 2 corners that can shut down. That in turn will give the Dline and lb's more time to make the plays we have been lacking....What do they call them, coverage sacks. But again this is all dependent on if they switch to the 3-4 sigh again. I'm all for the trading down, but staying in the 10-16 range and ;maybe a 2nd round pick thrown in as well. Is there anyone that will be willing to trade into that spot and add the 2nd rd. pick?

                                      GO After Cliff Avril in FA, I would like him and Sheard on the ends.

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                                      Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo wrote on last edited by
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                                      @blitzz2 said:

                                      Ok, i'll give you that. But if you have 2 corners that can shut down. That in turn will give the Dline and lb's more time to make the plays we have been lacking....What do they call them, coverage sacks. But again this is all dependent on if they switch to the 3-4 sigh again. I'm all for the trading down, but staying in the 10-16 range and ;maybe a 2nd round pick thrown in as well. Is there anyone that will be willing to trade into that spot and add the 2nd rd. pick?

                                      GO After Cliff Avril in FA, I would like him and Sheard on the ends.

                                      I think it is a well known fact that it is easier to get by with less talent at DB if you have high pressuring pass rusher than to get coverage sacks with average rusher but great DBs. It doesn't matter how good your secondary is, if you can't get to the QB fast enough, a WR, TE, or RB will get open.

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                                        @blitzz2 said:

                                        Ok, i'll give you that. But if you have 2 corners that can shut down. That in turn will give the Dline and lb's more time to make the plays we have been lacking....What do they call them, coverage sacks. But again this is all dependent on if they switch to the 3-4 sigh again. I'm all for the trading down, but staying in the 10-16 range and ;maybe a 2nd round pick thrown in as well. Is there anyone that will be willing to trade into that spot and add the 2nd rd. pick?

                                        GO After Cliff Avril in FA, I would like him and Sheard on the ends.

                                        I think it is a well known fact that it is easier to get by with less talent at DB if you have high pressuring pass rusher than to get coverage sacks with average rusher but great DBs. It doesn't matter how good your secondary is, if you can't get to the QB fast enough, a WR, TE, or RB will get open.

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                                        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                        @harry-buffalo said:

                                        I think it is a well known fact that it is easier to get by with less talent at DB if you have high pressuring pass rusher than to get coverage sacks with average rusher but great DBs. It doesn't matter how good your secondary is, if you can't get to the QB fast enough, a WR, TE, or RB will get open.

                                        Lets just say that it will be a hard choice for Chud/Lombardi/Banner/Haslam/whoever to make if Dee Milliner is still there along with one or two of the top rated pass rushers like Jones/Werner/Moore etc.

                                        That is what these guys are paid to do: make a choice and get it right.

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                                          @blitzz2 said:

                                          If the pick is D, and Millner is there, might as well pencil it in. 2 shut down corners make the D line and LB's that much better and effective.

                                          When your top sacker on the team finished the season with 7 and he will more than likely have to switch positions to stay on the team, alone with the fact that our second best sacker is 35 and has never and will never play OLB, your priority in the draft is going to be that great 3-4 OLB pass rush specialist. Thank god there are a few good ones available this year, even if we trade down a bit.

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                                          ITHIKAI ITHIKA wrote on last edited by
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                                          @harry-buffalo said:

                                          When your top sacker on the team finished the season with 7 and he will more than likely have to switch positions to stay on the team, alone with the fact that our second best sacker is 35 and has never and will never play OLB, your priority in the draft is going to be that great 3-4 OLB pass rush specialist. Thank god there are a few good ones available this year, even if we trade down a bit.

                                          There is no way we switch to just a 3-4 defense! Most defenses in the nfl these days are a hybrid of both anyway. If we switched to just play the 3-4 than we'd have to trade Phil Taylor as he would have no where to play with Rubin already knowing the NT position under Mangini and we're not trading Taylor. Who ever comes in to run the defense will most likely utilize all fronts and the personnel we already have much as how Chud explained it in his presser. Relax! What we do know is that this defense will not be a bend and break Jauron D. We will see lots of blitzing and attacking as Chud stated.

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