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  • I made that argument for Chance Warmack a couple weeks ago. I still wouldn't mind it if Ansah and Jordan were off the board. IMO they are the only two players with greater difference making ability (at a position the Browns need).

    Also to save a pick from becoming a Tight End, the Browns should really target Jared Cook. I thought that he would get the Franchise tag for sure.

    And in regards to Free Agency; I am also upset that the Cowboy's tagged Spencer. I thought he would be available and fit right in to the new defense.

  • It's kinda weird math: The Browns almost HAVE to spend like 40 mill in free agency, based on the new rules (89% average over 4 years). That's gonna be like 4 starters plus some depth. Let's say rumors are true and it's Avril, Lewis, Ellerbe, Brandon Myers, and a right guard to compete.

    So where are the holes? You might like another corner but Haden and Lewis are starting and Skrine is probably the nickel. He's extremely promising. Point is, you aren't signing Lewis and drafting Milliner.

    You kinda know the Browns don't unanimously love Weeden, so I guess you'd say Geno Smith is in play. You could add another pass rusher, but not that high because Avril and Sheard are starting. You'd love another WR but you're SO young, is it really a rookie? Maybe in round 4-ish but certainly not at #6 because there's nobody to take that high anyway.

    Talk will slant to Floyd or Star... and I guess you could dump Rubin because he isn't as good in the 3-4, but really? 3-4 DL before Watt weren't very highly weighted as far as the draft. And if you want one that bad, get a serious 5-tech like Desmond Bryant.

    Love to trade down... but that's what everybody wants to do.

  • If we switch to the 3-4, I really do see us getting Jarvis. Hope he's there at 6. I do agree that Jacksonville and Detroit would be the only players standing in our way to get him.

    @hunt-daddy said:

    If we switch to the 3-4,

    Taylor Rubin Winn, Sheard ,Johnson ,Jackson .When you add Robertson who finished third on the team with 93 total tackles, 62 of which were solo stops. Robertson had one sack and two interceptions,

    Fort served in more of a special teams role, while Robertson saw time as an extra linebacker in the nickel package.We start to get a better picture of The Defense, Witch in my opinion is not as bad as the Media says .

    The transition to the 3/4 and Horton has repeatedly said that multiple fronts would be employed . This Defense may not need as much restructuring as the Media would say or lead us to believe .

    The Horton de line will be aggressive and that plays right into Rubin and Taylor's game . Id like to see what these guys can do with the Green light first before we cut players we will need down the road .

    Im just not aboard with the chicken little ,The sky is falling on the D I think its good and better would be nice but, How many teams in reality have better .

  • @hunt-daddy said:

    If we switch to the 3-4,

    Taylor Rubin Winn, Sheard ,Johnson ,Jackson .When you add Robertson who finished third on the team with 93 total tackles, 62 of which were solo stops. Robertson had one sack and two interceptions,

    Fort served in more of a special teams role, while Robertson saw time as an extra linebacker in the nickel package.We start to get a better picture of The Defense, Witch in my opinion is not as bad as the Media says .

    The transition to the 3/4 and Horton has repeatedly said that multiple fronts would be employed . This Defense may not need as much restructuring as the Media would say or lead us to believe .

    The Horton de line will be aggressive and that plays right into Rubin and Taylor's game . Id like to see what these guys can do with the Green light first before we cut players we will need down the road .

    Im just not aboard with the chicken little ,The sky is falling on the D I think its good and better would be nice but, How many teams in reality have better .

    @joeb said:

    If we switch to the 3-4,

    Taylor Rubin Winn, Sheard ,Johnson ,Jackson .When you add Robertson who finished third on the team with 93 total tackles, 62 of which were solo stops. Robertson had one sack and two interceptions,

    Fort served in more of a special teams role, while Robertson saw time as an extra linebacker in the nickel package.We start to get a better picture of The Defense, Witch in my opinion is not as bad as the Media says .

    The transition to the 3/4 and Horton has repeatedly said that multiple fronts would be employed . This Defense may not need as much restructuring as the Media would say or lead us to believe .

    The Horton de line will be aggressive and that plays right into Rubin and Taylor's game . Id like to see what these guys can do with the Green light first before we cut players we will need down the road .

    Im just not aboard with the chicken little ,The sky is falling on the D I think its good and better would be nice but, How many teams in reality have better .

    Statistically, roughly 10 teams have better defenses, depending on what statline you judge by.

  • How would you guys feel about E.J. Manuel in the 4th or 5th. He's got some skill plus there's that chance to run the read option like Cam did in Carolina. He might be a poor man's Kaepernick...who knows.

  • How would you guys feel about E.J. Manuel in the 4th or 5th. He's got some skill plus there's that chance to run the read option like Cam did in Carolina. He might be a poor man's Kaepernick...who knows.

    @marcus said:

    How would you guys feel about E.J. Manuel in the 4th or 5th. He's got some skill plus there's that chance to run the read option like Cam did in Carolina. He might be a poor man's Kaepernick...who knows.

    I would be ecstatic, but he'll be gone in the second.

  • All the cool QB "steals" (Manuel, Scott, Bray) will be gone by the third round. If we draft a QB, it's probably someone like Dysert in the 4th. Some people really like him.

  • A late round/free agent QB candidate I find intriguing is Sean Renfree of Duke. Just a thought.

    Mike

  • I like Geno Smith but worry we are taking a big risk if we go for him that high. I also like Peter Lalich. In my opinion this is the guy we should get if we are going to stick with Weeden another year. I wouldn't even let him hit the FA market because there are people who are going to want him for sure. 7th round pick, cut McCoy loose and go with the other three at QB and let them battle it out. Three young guys pushing each other. However I have a suspicion that for all the Browns talk about a QB competition that they may just jump at a QB in the first round. If so it will be Smith at 6 because he won't get past the Bills. However maybe they could act like they want him at get the Bills to trade up and give them some picks in return.

    We also must get a punter, and a FG kicker (most likely). I like Nebraska's Punter quite a bit and would like to see him in a Browns uniform.

  • As a UVA fan Peter Lalich brings up depression. But the guy does have talent. Hopefully he has his head on straight now.

  • As a UVA fan Peter Lalich brings up depression. But the guy does have talent. Hopefully he has his head on straight now.

    @hunt-daddy said:

    As a UVA fan Peter Lalich brings up depression. But the guy does have talent. Hopefully he has his head on straight now.

    Lalich was on the straight and narrow for a while at Oregon State, but Ryan Katz was beating him out for the starting job. Then he got a BUII on Mothers day weekend and got kicked off the team.

  • Have you guys heard how he did at his pro day yesterday?

  • Grossi tweets "#Browns one of the teams with "high ranking reps" at Geno Smith Pro Day today."

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/blog/rob-rang/21877210/west-virginia-pro-day-smith-shows-firstround-stuff

  • Jonathan Cyprien from FIU looks like a solid cover safety with big hitting abilities, needs to work on tackling and not sure of his draft stock

  • Grossi tweets "#Browns one of the teams with "high ranking reps" at Geno Smith Pro Day today."

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/blog/rob-rang/21877210/west-virginia-pro-day-smith-shows-firstround-stuff

    @thenew23 said:

    Grossi tweets "#Browns one of the teams with "high ranking reps" at Geno Smith Pro Day today."

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/blog/rob-rang/21877210/west-virginia-pro-day-smith-shows-firstround-stuff

    You got to know what the top QB has if you want to have a real idea of what you can get in a trade.

  • Our WR coach was at Michigan's pro day 😁

  • If denard could catch a ball he would be a great replacement for cribbs as a returner.

  • If denard could catch a ball he would be a great replacement for cribbs as a returner.

    @erie-dawg said:

    If denard could catch a ball he would be a great replacement for cribbs as a returner.

    And like Cribbs we could get him as a UFA.

  • How about any of these prospects as a KR/PR:

    TJ Jones, Notre Dame

    Marquiss Goodwin, Texas

    Theo Riddick, Notre Dame

    Ontario McCalebb,Auburn (team him in the backfield with Montario Hardesty?)

    Andre DeBose, Florida

    Quinton Patton, La. Tech

    Robinson, Michigan

    Kenjon Barner, Oregon

    Stedman Bailey, WVa.

  • Barner wont be undrafted but would like to have him as a change of pace back for sure.