Spot Checks
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Gun inspectors? LOL
For cryin out loud.
1. Fire inspectors don't inspect HOMES, they inspect businesses. Home inspectors are hired to inspect for purchasing a used home, or a new home.
As it is, a home being built, is on schedule, inspected to comply with buidling regs. That is before the home is owned by the future owner.
2. Stopping a car for "weaving" ??? There is no Constitutional guarantee of car ownership, or driving privacy.
3. The safety and security of HOMES is guaranteed to be safe from random gov intrusion. I"m sure that nutjob Bloopberg of NY would have
:random inspections" of homes for sugar, guns, salt, butter.....it's all bs.
4. Isn't that profiling, to go after gun owners for special harrassment?
5. Trust me, and I"m not the only one who knows this.... a "scheduled random check" is dumb- you can rely on people all of a sudden locking up their gun(s)
and complying during the check. Like Inspector General inspections. Scheduled, and all of a sudden in the military, the enlisted mess hall looks beautiful,
....really nice table cloths, place settings, flowers, fancy napkins, you betcha. Day After Inspection? Gone like a freight train. LOL. Back to normal.
Won't work, is a silly idea.
6. I don't have time for six. Gotta run....
Everything that concerns gun control is a stupid idea to you, but no one has answered my simple question: who is going to pay for mental health reform? Who?
Everything that concerns gun control is a stupid idea to you, but no one has answered my simple question: who is going to pay for mental health reform? Who?
Legalize pot and use the taxes from that to pay for it. 2 problems solved with one joint
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Everything that concerns gun control is a stupid idea to you, but no one has answered my simple question: who is going to pay for mental health reform? Who?
Legalize pot and use the taxes from that to pay for it. 2 problems solved with one joint
Legalize pot and use the taxes from that to pay for it. 2 problems solved with one joint
Sin tax ammunition to ten times its actual worth like they've done to cigarettes. Using that to help reform mental health will make a positive statement.
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I'm for the legalization of pot btw. Why not? It's a lot less harmful than alcohol.
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I think that Cysco wants to establish a George Orwell type of Government i.e., 1984. We can have telescreens, thought police the whole nine yards. Give away all kinds of freedoms so them crazy bastards can't buy a gun.
I'm surprised you've even heard of orwell. In your fear of a dystopian future you're ignoring the dystopian future we live in.
I'm surprised you've even heard of orwell. In your fear of a dystopian future you're ignoring the dystopian future we live in.
I read Orwell in the 1960's dude. Get real.
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I'm surprised you've even heard of orwell. In your fear of a dystopian future you're ignoring the dystopian future we live in.
I read Orwell in the 1960's dude. Get real.
I read Orwell in the 1960's dude. Get real.
Who gives a shit?
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I read Orwell in the 1960's dude. Get real.
Who gives a shit?
Who gives a shit?
Obviously you asshole.
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Who gives a shit?
Obviously you asshole.
Obviously you asshole.
You, the guy who says you're welcome to poor people using an e.b.t. card, calling anyone an asshole is humorous. And here I thought cal was the more clever wingnut. Kudos.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
Obviously you asshole.
You, the guy who says you're welcome to poor people using an e.b.t. card, calling anyone an asshole is humorous. And here I thought cal was the more clever wingnut. Kudos.
You, the guy who says you're welcome to poor people using an e.b.t. card, calling anyone an asshole is humorous. And here I thought cal was the more clever wingnut. Kudos.
Cysco quite frankly you come off as somewhat crazy in your posts. But whatever dude. Keep em coming!
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Yeah, I'm completely unwilling to go along with this idea. What exactly are they gonna check for, the owners being too black? Being a registered gun owner should NOT mean that you are submitting yourself to mandatory searches and potential seizures.
Actually if they look too Filipino.
But seriously you have a license, a registration, for a firearm.
Just like you do for your car.
With your car the cops can pull you over for anything and submit you to test, right?
So they spot check the house, much in the same manner.
Hello sir we know that you have 39 millimeter pistols registered here could we see where they are being kept?
Uh let's see ones under the kids bed the other 1 is over by the crack pipe.
But actually you know what I mean if they're not safely secured as required they can get flned.
Or they can get the license revoked.
Think about it you can't even drive or start your car if a passenger in the back seat has an open beer.
Those spot checks are completely legitimate, at least under today's law.
WSS
With your car the cops can pull you over for anything and submit you to test, right?
No, actually. They need your permission to search the car unless they have reason to do so (like you get pulled over for speeding and they see an open beer can in the back). The ACLU has a field day with cases like that where the person did nothing wrong and the cops search without a warrant and without reasonable cause.
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You, the guy who says you're welcome to poor people using an e.b.t. card, calling anyone an asshole is humorous. And here I thought cal was the more clever wingnut. Kudos.
Cysco quite frankly you come off as somewhat crazy in your posts. But whatever dude. Keep em coming!
Cysco quite frankly you come off as somewhat crazy in your posts. But whatever dude. Keep em coming!
Pot, meet kettle.
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The NRA wants mass murders?
This, Cysko, is where you are looking like a moron.
Taxing ammo to ten times ...what?
That type of simpleton emotional outburst will accomplish:
1. More hundreds of thousands of people joining the NRA. The NRA grows to even greater size, greater power. Cool.
2. Ammo is flying off the shelves already, talk of using price as a weapon will ramp up production, and increase ammo hoarding. Nice job.
3. Bashing the NRA is a diversion from true solutions, making the left, as usual, not only counter-productive and their own worst enemy...
but also a major reason mass murders still take place - the left puts political victories ahead of unborn children, why not up their bet
and put them ahead of gun violence victimes, right?
4. You aren't making any rational sense. I'm thinking you should try some of those chewy vitamins and a stool softener, because for the most part of this
discussion, you are full of it and may be suffering from maltrution - just a guess.....
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Obviously you asshole.
You, the guy who says you're welcome to poor people using an e.b.t. card, calling anyone an asshole is humorous. And here I thought cal was the more clever wingnut. Kudos.
You, the guy who says you're welcome to poor people using an e.b.t. card, calling anyone an asshole is humorous. And here I thought cal was the more clever wingnut. Kudos.
I am the one who say's you're welcome....
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You, the guy who says you're welcome to poor people using an e.b.t. card, calling anyone an asshole is humorous. And here I thought cal was the more clever wingnut. Kudos.
I am the one who say's you're welcome....
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The NRA wants mass murders?
This, Cysko, is where you are looking like a moron.
Taxing ammo to ten times ...what?
That type of simpleton emotional outburst will accomplish:
1. More hundreds of thousands of people joining the NRA. The NRA grows to even greater size, greater power. Cool.
2. Ammo is flying off the shelves already, talk of using price as a weapon will ramp up production, and increase ammo hoarding. Nice job.
3. Bashing the NRA is a diversion from true solutions, making the left, as usual, not only counter-productive and their own worst enemy...
but also a major reason mass murders still take place - the left puts political victories ahead of unborn children, why not up their bet
and put them ahead of gun violence victimes, right?
4. You aren't making any rational sense. I'm thinking you should try some of those chewy vitamins and a stool softener, because for the most part of this
discussion, you are full of it and may be suffering from maltrution - just a guess.....
The NRA wants mass murders?
This, Cysko, is where you are looking like a moron.
Taxing ammo to ten times ...what?
That type of simpleton emotional outburst will accomplish:
1. More hundreds of thousands of people joining the NRA. The NRA grows to even greater size, greater power. Cool.
2. Ammo is flying off the shelves already, talk of using price as a weapon will ramp up production, and increase ammo hoarding. Nice job.
3. Bashing the NRA is a diversion from true solutions, making the left, as usual, not only counter-productive and their own worst enemy...
but also a major reason mass murders still take place - the left puts political victories ahead of unborn children, why not up their bet
and put them ahead of gun violence victimes, right?
4. You aren't making any rational sense. I'm thinking you should try some of those chewy vitamins and a stool softener, because for the most part of this
discussion, you are full of it and may be suffering from maltrution - just a guess.....
The nra is a business. Every mass murder is good for the business, bottom line.
texting ammo is a great idea you don't like it so it sounds crazy to you
not having any form of gun control sounds crazy to me.
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With your car the cops can pull you over for anything and submit you to test, right?
No, actually. They need your permission to search the car unless they have reason to do so (like you get pulled over for speeding and they see an open beer can in the back). The ACLU has a field day with cases like that where the person did nothing wrong and the cops search without a warrant and without reasonable cause.
No, actually. They need your permission to search the car unless they have reason to do so (like you get pulled over for speeding and they see an open beer can in the back). The ACLU has a field day with cases like that where the person did nothing wrong and the cops search without a warrant and without reasonable cause.
While that's technically the case I don't think many officers need more than the weaving excuse.
We were at a winery, Susan had nothing to drink, and about a mile or 2 from it we were pulled over for, get this, going the speed limit.
There was a curve and a yellow triangular sign with 25 as in miles per hour on it.
She slowed to 25 and the officer pulled us over wanting to know why we were driving so slowly.
As for searching your car it's perfectly alright to search anything they can see through the windows.
And in most, if not all, States it is illegal to tint your windows so they can't see in.
But at the end of the day do you think drunk driving is serious or not?
If Susan had been drunk that officer might have saved someone's life.
And it was probably a good guess seeing a car leaving a winery, ya think?
So I'd say that stands true for gun violence.
It's not too weird to imagine that a hell of a lot of guns fall into the wrong hands because the owners don't keep them secure, how about it?
WSS
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No, actually. They need your permission to search the car unless they have reason to do so (like you get pulled over for speeding and they see an open beer can in the back). The ACLU has a field day with cases like that where the person did nothing wrong and the cops search without a warrant and without reasonable cause.
While that's technically the case I don't think many officers need more than the weaving excuse.
We were at a winery, Susan had nothing to drink, and about a mile or 2 from it we were pulled over for, get this, going the speed limit.
There was a curve and a yellow triangular sign with 25 as in miles per hour on it.
She slowed to 25 and the officer pulled us over wanting to know why we were driving so slowly.
As for searching your car it's perfectly alright to search anything they can see through the windows.
And in most, if not all, States it is illegal to tint your windows so they can't see in.
But at the end of the day do you think drunk driving is serious or not?
If Susan had been drunk that officer might have saved someone's life.
And it was probably a good guess seeing a car leaving a winery, ya think?
So I'd say that stands true for gun violence.
It's not too weird to imagine that a hell of a lot of guns fall into the wrong hands because the owners don't keep them secure, how about it?
WSS
While that's technically the case I don't think many officers need more than the weaving excuse.
We were at a winery, Susan had nothing to drink, and about a mile or 2 from it we were pulled over for, get this, going the speed limit.
There was a curve and a yellow triangular sign with 25 as in miles per hour on it.
She slowed to 25 and the officer pulled us over wanting to know why we were driving so slowly.
As for searching your car it's perfectly alright to search anything they can see through the windows.
And in most, if not all, States it is illegal to tint your windows so they can't see in.
But at the end of the day do you think drunk driving is serious or not?
If Susan had been drunk that officer might have saved someone's life.
And it was probably a good guess seeing a car leaving a winery, ya think?
So I'd say that stands true for gun violence.
It's not too weird to imagine that a hell of a lot of guns fall into the wrong hands because the owners don't keep them secure, how about it?
WSS
Yeah, but she wasn't drunk. I'd rather a checkpoint be set up than to get pulled over for leaving a bar. Of course I think drunk driving is a problem, but your story doesn't justify why spot checks should exist. Most of the time, the cop's not going to find shit if he's just pulling people over for doing the speed limit. Either way, a car search is much, much different than a home search.
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While that's technically the case I don't think many officers need more than the weaving excuse.
We were at a winery, Susan had nothing to drink, and about a mile or 2 from it we were pulled over for, get this, going the speed limit.
There was a curve and a yellow triangular sign with 25 as in miles per hour on it.
She slowed to 25 and the officer pulled us over wanting to know why we were driving so slowly.
As for searching your car it's perfectly alright to search anything they can see through the windows.
And in most, if not all, States it is illegal to tint your windows so they can't see in.
But at the end of the day do you think drunk driving is serious or not?
If Susan had been drunk that officer might have saved someone's life.
And it was probably a good guess seeing a car leaving a winery, ya think?
So I'd say that stands true for gun violence.
It's not too weird to imagine that a hell of a lot of guns fall into the wrong hands because the owners don't keep them secure, how about it?
WSS
Yeah, but she wasn't drunk. I'd rather a checkpoint be set up than to get pulled over for leaving a bar. Of course I think drunk driving is a problem, but your story doesn't justify why spot checks should exist. Most of the time, the cop's not going to find shit if he's just pulling people over for doing the speed limit. Either way, a car search is much, much different than a home search.
Yeah, but she wasn't drunk. I'd rather a checkpoint be set up than to get pulled over for leaving a bar. Of course I think drunk driving is a problem, but your story doesn't justify why spot checks should exist. Most of the time, the cop's not going to find shit if he's just pulling people over for doing the speed limit. Either way, a car search is much, much different than a home search.
Of course announcing a check ahead of time sort of negates any usefulness.
And of course we're not talking about a search of the house, just hello sir could we check to see the weapons you have registered are secured?
Any of you guys, not necessarily you, who think there should be laws requiring firearms to be registered and secured, how else?
After the fact? After your lunatic 22 year old or you're stupid 14 year old take it out of your nightstand and shoot themselves or somebody else?
Charging someone posthumously seems like cold comfort to me.
WSS
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Yeah, but she wasn't drunk. I'd rather a checkpoint be set up than to get pulled over for leaving a bar. Of course I think drunk driving is a problem, but your story doesn't justify why spot checks should exist. Most of the time, the cop's not going to find shit if he's just pulling people over for doing the speed limit. Either way, a car search is much, much different than a home search.
Of course announcing a check ahead of time sort of negates any usefulness.
And of course we're not talking about a search of the house, just hello sir could we check to see the weapons you have registered are secured?
Any of you guys, not necessarily you, who think there should be laws requiring firearms to be registered and secured, how else?
After the fact? After your lunatic 22 year old or you're stupid 14 year old take it out of your nightstand and shoot themselves or somebody else?
Charging someone posthumously seems like cold comfort to me.
WSS
Of course announcing a check ahead of time sort of negates any usefulness.
And of course we're not talking about a search of the house, just hello sir could we check to see the weapons you have registered are secured?
WSS
1 - What do you mean by secure? What if the guy says they're in the gun cabinet? Is he going to bring the gun out to the officer? Of course not! Therefore, it'd be a search of the house.
2 - How often do you expect these checks to take place? The likelihood of these checks occurring between the time a gun gets stolen by a crazy and used to commit a massacre at a school seems astronomically low.
I just fail to see how anyone would benefit from that.
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Of course announcing a check ahead of time sort of negates any usefulness.
And of course we're not talking about a search of the house, just hello sir could we check to see the weapons you have registered are secured?
WSS
1 - What do you mean by secure? What if the guy says they're in the gun cabinet? Is he going to bring the gun out to the officer? Of course not! Therefore, it'd be a search of the house.
2 - How often do you expect these checks to take place? The likelihood of these checks occurring between the time a gun gets stolen by a crazy and used to commit a massacre at a school seems astronomically low.
I just fail to see how anyone would benefit from that.
1 - What do you mean by secure? What if the guy says they're in the gun cabinet? Is he going to bring the gun out to the officer? Of course not! Therefore, it'd be a search of the house.
2 - How often do you expect these checks to take place? The likelihood of these checks occurring between the time a gun gets stolen by a crazy and used to commit a massacre at a school seems astronomically low.
I just fail to see how anyone would benefit from that.
Same way the gas company comes in to check your meter. It's not a search of the house. Just looking at the meter.
Just talking about trying to change behavior a little bit, sorry. Many of the people here have expressed a desire to make it mandatory that your weapons be secure in your home, not laying around accessible to anyone.
If there's no possible way to enforce that then why bother with the law?
Except to provide some sanctimonious politicians with a little air time.
WSS
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1 - What do you mean by secure? What if the guy says they're in the gun cabinet? Is he going to bring the gun out to the officer? Of course not! Therefore, it'd be a search of the house.
2 - How often do you expect these checks to take place? The likelihood of these checks occurring between the time a gun gets stolen by a crazy and used to commit a massacre at a school seems astronomically low.
I just fail to see how anyone would benefit from that.
Same way the gas company comes in to check your meter. It's not a search of the house. Just looking at the meter.
Just talking about trying to change behavior a little bit, sorry. Many of the people here have expressed a desire to make it mandatory that your weapons be secure in your home, not laying around accessible to anyone.
If there's no possible way to enforce that then why bother with the law?
Except to provide some sanctimonious politicians with a little air time.
WSS
Same way the gas company comes in to check your meter. It's not a search of the house. Just looking at the meter.
Just talking about trying to change behavior a little bit, sorry. Many of the people here have expressed a desire to make it mandatory that your weapons be secure in your home, not laying around accessible to anyone.
If there's no possible way to enforce that then why bother with the law?
Except to provide some sanctimonious politicians with a little air time.
WSS
Steve, the gas man checking the meter is completely different than a cop ensuring your guns are "secured." Last time I checked, I don't think anyone stores their guns outside of their house.
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