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  • The Gipper The GipperT In Memoriam Very Popular
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    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    Here are some more situations about players that may be in or out of the picture:

    OUT OF THE PICTURE:

    Jets LB Josh Mauga, resigned

    Bills CB Leodis McKelvin, resigned

    Cards QB Brian Hoyer, tender offered

    Giants WR Victor Cruz, tender offered

    Texans TE Phillip Supernaw, signed

    Broncos S David Bruton, signed

    IN THE PICTURE:

    Cards WR Early Doucet, waived

    Redskins CB DeAngelo Hall, released

    Broncos LB DJ Williams, released

    Broncos QB Caleb Hanie, released

    Cowboys LB Dan Connor, released (wasn't he Roseanne's husband, played by John Goodman?)

    Cards RB Beanie Wells and Fozzy Whitaker, both released.

    Should the Browns have any interest in any of these players that have been released?

    Doucet as a replacement for MoMass? There are cornerbacks and LBs there...which the Browns need. Could any of these help? Have any of these retired a la Chris Gamble?

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      Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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      DJ Williams has the potential to be a really great player, but he can't keep his head on straight. I would expect him to sign with the Patriots or Bengals and have a great next couple of seasons.

      Beanie Wells also has the potential, but has had a terrible career for the most part. If he could stay healthy, he'd be a solid backup. But we have Montario Hardesty, who can be more than capable when called upon.

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        DJ Williams has the potential to be a really great player, but he can't keep his head on straight. I would expect him to sign with the Patriots or Bengals and have a great next couple of seasons.

        Beanie Wells also has the potential, but has had a terrible career for the most part. If he could stay healthy, he'd be a solid backup. But we have Montario Hardesty, who can be more than capable when called upon.

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        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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        @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

        DJ Williams has the potential to be a really great player, but he can't keep his head on straight. I would expect him to sign with the Patriots or Bengals and have a great next couple of seasons.

        Beanie Wells also has the potential, but has had a terrible career for the most part. If he could stay healthy, he'd be a solid backup. But we have Montario Hardesty, who can be more than capable when called upon.

        Maybe if Beanie "came home" he could contribute. He went to (Akron) Garfield HS.

        Maybe the Browns can pick up all the old home boys:

        Beanie Wells (Akron) RB

        James Harrison(Coventry) LB

        Is Antoine Winfield a FA(also Akron Garfield.) CB

        Aqib Talib (born in Cleveland) CB

        Ted Ginn, Glenville WR/KR

        Brian Hoyer, St. Ignatius QB

        Nate Clements, Shaker Hts

        Rob Sims, Nordonia OG

        Rodger Saffold, Bedford

        Haruki Nakamura, Elyria S

        Scott Mruczkowski, Garfield Hts. OG/C

        Michael McGlynn, Austintown Fitch

        Kevin Houser, Westlake Long Snapper

        David Herron, Warren LB

        London Fletcher, St. Joe's LB

        Barry Cofield, Cleveland Hts. DT

        Prescott Burgess, Warren G. Harding LB/ST

        Alex Boone, St. Eds OG

        You could put together a whole team of local talent perhaps.

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          DJ Williams has the potential to be a really great player, but he can't keep his head on straight. I would expect him to sign with the Patriots or Bengals and have a great next couple of seasons.

          Beanie Wells also has the potential, but has had a terrible career for the most part. If he could stay healthy, he'd be a solid backup. But we have Montario Hardesty, who can be more than capable when called upon.

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          @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

          DJ Williams has the potential to be a really great player, but he can't keep his head on straight. I would expect him to sign with the Patriots or Bengals and have a great next couple of seasons.

          Beanie Wells also has the potential, but has had a terrible career for the most part. If he could stay healthy, he'd be a solid backup. But we have Montario Hardesty, who can be more than capable when called upon.

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            @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

            DJ Williams has the potential to be a really great player, but he can't keep his head on straight. I would expect him to sign with the Patriots or Bengals and have a great next couple of seasons.

            Beanie Wells also has the potential, but has had a terrible career for the most part. If he could stay healthy, he'd be a solid backup. But we have Montario Hardesty, who can be more than capable when called upon.

            WHAT?! OMG, like what's wrong with you?... it's like somebody spilled your dna while you were being evolved and reassembled you into a female hygienic cleaning product...

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            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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            @poeticg said:

            WHAT?! OMG, like what's wrong with you?... it's like somebody spilled your dna while you were being evolved and reassembled you into a female hygienic cleaning product...

            How about actually explaining your reasons for criticizing his post instead of giving some silly cryptic response.

            You apparently disagree that DJ Williams and Beanie Wells would have potential value to the Browns. Explain why. Because I sure don't know what his pros are or what your cons are.

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              @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

              DJ Williams has the potential to be a really great player, but he can't keep his head on straight. I would expect him to sign with the Patriots or Bengals and have a great next couple of seasons.

              Beanie Wells also has the potential, but has had a terrible career for the most part. If he could stay healthy, he'd be a solid backup. But we have Montario Hardesty, who can be more than capable when called upon.

              Maybe if Beanie "came home" he could contribute. He went to (Akron) Garfield HS.

              Maybe the Browns can pick up all the old home boys:

              Beanie Wells (Akron) RB

              James Harrison(Coventry) LB

              Is Antoine Winfield a FA(also Akron Garfield.) CB

              Aqib Talib (born in Cleveland) CB

              Ted Ginn, Glenville WR/KR

              Brian Hoyer, St. Ignatius QB

              Nate Clements, Shaker Hts

              Rob Sims, Nordonia OG

              Rodger Saffold, Bedford

              Haruki Nakamura, Elyria S

              Scott Mruczkowski, Garfield Hts. OG/C

              Michael McGlynn, Austintown Fitch

              Kevin Houser, Westlake Long Snapper

              David Herron, Warren LB

              London Fletcher, St. Joe's LB

              Barry Cofield, Cleveland Hts. DT

              Prescott Burgess, Warren G. Harding LB/ST

              Alex Boone, St. Eds OG

              You could put together a whole team of local talent perhaps.

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              Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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              @the-gipper said:

              Maybe if Beanie "came home" he could contribute. He went to (Akron) Garfield HS.

              Maybe the Browns can pick up all the old home boys:

              Beanie Wells (Akron) RB

              James Harrison(Coventry) LB

              Is Antoine Winfield a FA(also Akron Garfield.) CB

              Aqib Talib (born in Cleveland) CB

              Ted Ginn, Glenville WR/KR

              Brian Hoyer, St. Ignatius QB

              Nate Clements, Shaker Hts

              Rob Sims, Nordonia OG

              Rodger Saffold, Bedford

              Haruki Nakamura, Elyria S

              Scott Mruczkowski, Garfield Hts. OG/C

              Michael McGlynn, Austintown Fitch

              Kevin Houser, Westlake Long Snapper

              David Herron, Warren LB

              London Fletcher, St. Joe's LB

              Barry Cofield, Cleveland Hts. DT

              Prescott Burgess, Warren G. Harding LB/ST

              Alex Boone, St. Eds OG

              You could put together a whole team of local talent perhaps.

              Antoine Winfield was released 10 minutes ago.

              I would not mind adding the first five from that list at all.

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                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                As of this morning, March 18 here is a list of players who have been added 'in the picture" over the last several days:

                QB Kevin Kolb

                S Tom Zbikowski

                WR Brandon Lloyd

                S Ben Pollard

                WR Ben Obomanu

                DE Elvis Dumerville

                LB Quincy Black

                S Kerry Rhodes

                TE Kellen Davis

                What interest is there in acquiring any of these players at various position of need for the Browns?

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                  As of this morning, March 18 here is a list of players who have been added 'in the picture" over the last several days:

                  QB Kevin Kolb

                  S Tom Zbikowski

                  WR Brandon Lloyd

                  S Ben Pollard

                  WR Ben Obomanu

                  DE Elvis Dumerville

                  LB Quincy Black

                  S Kerry Rhodes

                  TE Kellen Davis

                  What interest is there in acquiring any of these players at various position of need for the Browns?

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                  @the-gipper said:

                  As of this morning, March 18 here is a list of players who have been added 'in the picture" over the last several days:

                  QB Kevin Kolb

                  S Tom Zbikowski

                  WR Brandon Lloyd

                  S Ben Pollard

                  WR Ben Obomanu

                  DE Elvis Dumerville

                  LB Quincy Black

                  S Kerry Rhodes

                  TE Kellen Davis

                  What interest is there in acquiring any of these players at various position of need for the Browns?

                  I'm interested in Kolb. Pollard plays same position as Ward. Dumerville is probably not going to be signed with Sheard and Kruger on board. Lukewarm, or do know enough to speak ofthe rest. No to Brandon Lloyd.

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                    Per CBSports.com's Top 100 Free agent rankings, here are the best players that were/are free agents and their disposition:

                    QB Joe Flacco, resigned with Ravens prior to FA period beginning.

                    ...NO other QB was listed in Top 100, though this list was made prior to the Fitzpatrick release

                    RB Steven Jackson signed with the Falcons

                    WR Dwayne Bowe, resigned with KC prior to FA period beginning

                    ...top WR to hit market: Mike Wallace, signe by Dolphins

                    TE Jared Cook, signed by Rams

                    OT Ryan Clady, resigned with Broncos before FA period began

                    ...top OT to hit market: Sebastian Vollmer, and he is still unsigned

                    OG Andy Levitre, signed by Titans

                    C no centers were ranked in CBS top 100

                    DE Cliff Avril signed by Seahawks

                    ...note: list prior to Dumerville release

                    DT Henry Melton, resigned by Bear priot to FA period beginning

                    ...top DT to hit market: Desmond Bryant signed by Browns

                    OLB Paul Kruger, signed by Browns

                    ILB Dannell Ellerbe, signed by Dolphins

                    S Jarius Byrd, resigned by Bill prior to FA beginning

                    ...top S to hit market: Dashon Goldson, signed by Tampa Bay

                    CB Sean Smith signed by KC

                    ...note: other lists had Grimes top, but injury situation made him a question mark.

                    As mentioned, if Browns get Grimes, they could get perhaps top FA at 3 positions.

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                      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                      Zibikowski would be sick

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                        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                        Note, per this CBSports.com website, 35 of the top 100 FAs available still remain unsigned. I know the Browns are talking to some of them. Who among this list should they be thinking about?

                        http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/transactions/free-agents

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                          Zibikowski would be sick

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                          @mld-woody said:

                          Zibikowski would be sick

                          Why would the Colts release him if he is so good? I didn't hear that they had a cap space problem.

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                            @mld-woody said:

                            Zibikowski would be sick

                            Why would the Colts release him if he is so good? I didn't hear that they had a cap space problem.

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                            @the-gipper said:

                            Why would the Colts release him if he is so good? I didn't hear that they had a cap space problem.

                            ditto that about Vollmer- he made the Pro Bowl @ RT. Bill B rarely makes mistakes, so he must know something we don't. Then again he thought an average of 120 receptions and 1,400 yards receiving over the last two years wasn't worth $6 million a year either. πŸ˜•

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                              @the-gipper said:

                              Why would the Colts release him if he is so good? I didn't hear that they had a cap space problem.

                              ditto that about Vollmer- he made the Pro Bowl @ RT. Bill B rarely makes mistakes, so he must know something we don't. Then again he thought an average of 120 receptions and 1,400 yards receiving over the last two years wasn't worth $6 million a year either. πŸ˜•

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                              @hoorta said:

                              ditto that about Vollmer- he made the Pro Bowl @ RT. Bill B rarely makes mistakes, so he must know something we don't. Then again he thought an average of 120 receptions and 1,400 yards receiving over the last two years wasn't worth $6 million a year either. πŸ˜•

                              I don't know Vollmer's age, but perhaps he, like Welker, was a little older and BB, as he often does gets rid of guys perhaps one year early rather than one year late.

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                                MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                Cuz Zibikowski in the only Notre Dame player I've ever liked and he's a good user safety in Madden πŸ™‚

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                                  Cruz is still a year away from unrestricted free agency so they don’t have to give him a mega-contract at the moment. They can buy time β€” as the $2.879 million tender did β€” until they have a better idea what his market value really is.

                                  Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/vacchiano-tendering-cruz-article-1.1290695#ixzz2NvGKI2Wk

                                  The giants have been walking a fine line with Cruz way to long and need to be called on the " Your so happy in Ny the greatest city on the planet Line " While paying him somewhere around 330,000 $ Next year he will demand 12 Mill and the giants are going to pull a Mike Wallace and smash his reputation in the media . Cruz deserves a Chance to be Someones # 1 and the NY talking heads are cuddling the fact , The only thing holding him there is the fear of the NY media .

                                  Cleveland need to at least sweeten the deal for him so this travesty doesn't play out in the form of Wallace to Miami after a media circus . Im sure Miami would have given up the Ryan Tannenhill pick for Wallace at 4.5 mill last year . A lesson Cleveland should look at , as a positive not a loss .

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                                    Cruz is still a year away from unrestricted free agency so they don’t have to give him a mega-contract at the moment. They can buy time β€” as the $2.879 million tender did β€” until they have a better idea what his market value really is.

                                    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/vacchiano-tendering-cruz-article-1.1290695#ixzz2NvGKI2Wk

                                    The giants have been walking a fine line with Cruz way to long and need to be called on the " Your so happy in Ny the greatest city on the planet Line " While paying him somewhere around 330,000 $ Next year he will demand 12 Mill and the giants are going to pull a Mike Wallace and smash his reputation in the media . Cruz deserves a Chance to be Someones # 1 and the NY talking heads are cuddling the fact , The only thing holding him there is the fear of the NY media .

                                    Cleveland need to at least sweeten the deal for him so this travesty doesn't play out in the form of Wallace to Miami after a media circus . Im sure Miami would have given up the Ryan Tannenhill pick for Wallace at 4.5 mill last year . A lesson Cleveland should look at , as a positive not a loss .

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                                    @joeb said:

                                    Cruz is still a year away from unrestricted free agency so they don’t have to give him a mega-contract at the moment. They can buy time β€” as the $2.879 million tender did β€” until they have a better idea what his market value really is.

                                    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/vacchiano-tendering-cruz-article-1.1290695#ixzz2NvGKI2Wk

                                    The giants have been walking a fine line with Cruz way to long and need to be called on the " Your so happy in Ny the greatest city on the planet Line " While paying him somewhere around 330,000 $ Next year he will demand 12 Mill and the giants are going to pull a Mike Wallace and smash his reputation in the media . Cruz deserves a Chance to be Someones # 1 and the NY talking heads are cuddling the fact , The only thing holding him there is the fear of the NY media .

                                    Cleveland need to at least sweeten the deal for him so this travesty doesn't play out in the form of Wallace to Miami after a media circus . Im sure Miami would have given up the Ryan Tannenhill pick for Wallace at 4.5 mill last year . A lesson Cleveland should look at , as a positive not a loss .

                                    So NY won't pay him $12 million next year but Cleveland should give him that kind of money, and ship the #6 pick to the Giants on top of it? Instant Cap Hell. Welker only got $6 million. No thanks. I like what we have in Gordon and Little.

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                                      Cuz Zibikowski in the only Notre Dame player I've ever liked and he's a good user safety in Madden πŸ™‚

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                                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                      @mld-woody said:

                                      Cuz Zibikowski in the only Notre Dame player I've ever liked and he's a good user safety in Madden πŸ™‚

                                      Grow up.

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                                        Moves yesterday involving players at positions of Browns needs, these guys are now "Out of the Picture" for the Browns:

                                        TE Matt Spaeth signed by Steelers

                                        LB Antwan Barnes signed by Jets

                                        TE Ben Watson signed by Saints

                                        LB Ramon Humber signed by Saints

                                        CB Cassius Vaughn resigned by Colts

                                        LB Rey Maualaga resigned by Bengals.

                                        DE Marcus spears signed by Ravens

                                        P Sav Rocca signed by Redskins

                                        TE Tom Crabtree signed by Bucs

                                        LB Kevin Burnett signed by Raiders

                                        TE Ben Hartsock signed by Panthers

                                        DB Craig Dahl signed by 49ers

                                        K Nick Folk signed by Jets

                                        LB Rob Francois signed by Packers

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                                          @mld-woody said:

                                          Cuz Zibikowski in the only Notre Dame player I've ever liked and he's a good user safety in Madden πŸ™‚

                                          Grow up.

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                                          @the-gipper said:

                                          Grow up.

                                          You first

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