More In And Out Of The Picture
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Zibikowski would be sick
Why would the Colts release him if he is so good? I didn't hear that they had a cap space problem.
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Zibikowski would be sick
Why would the Colts release him if he is so good? I didn't hear that they had a cap space problem.
Why would the Colts release him if he is so good? I didn't hear that they had a cap space problem.
ditto that about Vollmer- he made the Pro Bowl @ RT. Bill B rarely makes mistakes, so he must know something we don't. Then again he thought an average of 120 receptions and 1,400 yards receiving over the last two years wasn't worth $6 million a year either.
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Why would the Colts release him if he is so good? I didn't hear that they had a cap space problem.
ditto that about Vollmer- he made the Pro Bowl @ RT. Bill B rarely makes mistakes, so he must know something we don't. Then again he thought an average of 120 receptions and 1,400 yards receiving over the last two years wasn't worth $6 million a year either.
ditto that about Vollmer- he made the Pro Bowl @ RT. Bill B rarely makes mistakes, so he must know something we don't. Then again he thought an average of 120 receptions and 1,400 yards receiving over the last two years wasn't worth $6 million a year either.
I don't know Vollmer's age, but perhaps he, like Welker, was a little older and BB, as he often does gets rid of guys perhaps one year early rather than one year late.
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Cuz Zibikowski in the only Notre Dame player I've ever liked and he's a good user safety in Madden
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Cruz is still a year away from unrestricted free agency so they donβt have to give him a mega-contract at the moment. They can buy time β as the $2.879 million tender did β until they have a better idea what his market value really is.
The giants have been walking a fine line with Cruz way to long and need to be called on the " Your so happy in Ny the greatest city on the planet Line " While paying him somewhere around 330,000 $ Next year he will demand 12 Mill and the giants are going to pull a Mike Wallace and smash his reputation in the media . Cruz deserves a Chance to be Someones # 1 and the NY talking heads are cuddling the fact , The only thing holding him there is the fear of the NY media .
Cleveland need to at least sweeten the deal for him so this travesty doesn't play out in the form of Wallace to Miami after a media circus . Im sure Miami would have given up the Ryan Tannenhill pick for Wallace at 4.5 mill last year . A lesson Cleveland should look at , as a positive not a loss .
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Cruz is still a year away from unrestricted free agency so they donβt have to give him a mega-contract at the moment. They can buy time β as the $2.879 million tender did β until they have a better idea what his market value really is.
The giants have been walking a fine line with Cruz way to long and need to be called on the " Your so happy in Ny the greatest city on the planet Line " While paying him somewhere around 330,000 $ Next year he will demand 12 Mill and the giants are going to pull a Mike Wallace and smash his reputation in the media . Cruz deserves a Chance to be Someones # 1 and the NY talking heads are cuddling the fact , The only thing holding him there is the fear of the NY media .
Cleveland need to at least sweeten the deal for him so this travesty doesn't play out in the form of Wallace to Miami after a media circus . Im sure Miami would have given up the Ryan Tannenhill pick for Wallace at 4.5 mill last year . A lesson Cleveland should look at , as a positive not a loss .
Cruz is still a year away from unrestricted free agency so they donβt have to give him a mega-contract at the moment. They can buy time β as the $2.879 million tender did β until they have a better idea what his market value really is.
The giants have been walking a fine line with Cruz way to long and need to be called on the " Your so happy in Ny the greatest city on the planet Line " While paying him somewhere around 330,000 $ Next year he will demand 12 Mill and the giants are going to pull a Mike Wallace and smash his reputation in the media . Cruz deserves a Chance to be Someones # 1 and the NY talking heads are cuddling the fact , The only thing holding him there is the fear of the NY media .
Cleveland need to at least sweeten the deal for him so this travesty doesn't play out in the form of Wallace to Miami after a media circus . Im sure Miami would have given up the Ryan Tannenhill pick for Wallace at 4.5 mill last year . A lesson Cleveland should look at , as a positive not a loss .
So NY won't pay him $12 million next year but Cleveland should give him that kind of money, and ship the #6 pick to the Giants on top of it? Instant Cap Hell. Welker only got $6 million. No thanks. I like what we have in Gordon and Little.
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Cuz Zibikowski in the only Notre Dame player I've ever liked and he's a good user safety in Madden
Cuz Zibikowski in the only Notre Dame player I've ever liked and he's a good user safety in Madden
Grow up.
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Moves yesterday involving players at positions of Browns needs, these guys are now "Out of the Picture" for the Browns:
TE Matt Spaeth signed by Steelers
LB Antwan Barnes signed by Jets
TE Ben Watson signed by Saints
LB Ramon Humber signed by Saints
CB Cassius Vaughn resigned by Colts
LB Rey Maualaga resigned by Bengals.
DE Marcus spears signed by Ravens
P Sav Rocca signed by Redskins
TE Tom Crabtree signed by Bucs
LB Kevin Burnett signed by Raiders
TE Ben Hartsock signed by Panthers
DB Craig Dahl signed by 49ers
K Nick Folk signed by Jets
LB Rob Francois signed by Packers
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Cuz Zibikowski in the only Notre Dame player I've ever liked and he's a good user safety in Madden
Grow up.
Grow up.
You first
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Grow up.
You first
You first
I am growing old, I am growing out, I am growing grey. At this point I may even be retracting in my growth.
11When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. 1
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More "out of the picture" this afternoon March 19th:
QB Ryan Fitzpatrick...got his St. Pats present, signed by Titans
QB Matt Hasselback...signed by Colts
OG Nate Garner...signed by Dolphins
WR Louis Murphy...signed by Giants.
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Another group of "Outs":
CB DJ Moore signs with Panthers
OG Seth Olsen signs with Vikings
QB David Carr resigns with Giants
and, of course, Phil Dawson.
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Really, really loved the Browns first two moves. Really, really hate that they've missed out on all those affordable corners and now it's down to paying more for a potentially terrific CB who's gonna be 30 and coming off a torn achilles. Could work out... could make us yearn for Keenan Lewis.
I figured we should focus on D and RG because it's gonna be tough to get f/a passcatchers to come here until we have a settled and productive QB sitch.
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I'm cautiously optimistic about the signings, I think the biggest factor will be Horton and not the free agents we signed.
Quinton Groves was on the radio today and the way these guys talk about Horton and his D makes it sound like he is Bill Walsh reincarnated as a defensive guy. Can't wait for the new season should be exciting.
I wish we would of signed Sean Smith the corner who went to KC,hopefully we can land Grimes.
"All Truth Passes Through Three stages. First, It Is Ridiculed, Second It Is Violently Opposed, And Third, It Is Accepted As Self-Evident" ~Arthur Schopenhauer -
Yeah, there were so many young, legit, starting "second corners" on the market, even more than usual and it's always a popular position. Shit, remember Carlos Rogers dangling out there until May... but then making the Pro Bowl? They're falling off trees but we never seem to catch one.
I thought we'd jump on Kruger and Keenan Lewis right away.
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I'm cautiously optimistic about the signings, I think the biggest factor will be Horton and not the free agents we signed.
Quinton Groves was on the radio today and the way these guys talk about Horton and his D makes it sound like he is Bill Walsh reincarnated as a defensive guy. Can't wait for the new season should be exciting.
I wish we would of signed Sean Smith the corner who went to KC,hopefully we can land Grimes.
I'm cautiously optimistic about the signings, I think the biggest factor will be Horton and not the free agents we signed.
Quinton Groves was on the radio today and the way these guys talk about Horton and his D makes it sound like he is Bill Walsh reincarnated as a defensive guy. Can't wait for the new season should be exciting.
I would say our signings have been "smart". I dont want to use the rome wasn't built in a day bit, because we've heard it all before. But if you look at how Banner was part of assembling the eagles it was calculated smart moves. He assembled a football team you didnt hear of the eagles in cap hell.
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Really, really loved the Browns first two moves. Really, really hate that they've missed out on all those affordable corners and now it's down to paying more for a potentially terrific CB who's gonna be 30 and coming off a torn achilles. Could work out... could make us yearn for Keenan Lewis.
I figured we should focus on D and RG because it's gonna be tough to get f/a passcatchers to come here until we have a settled and productive QB sitch.
Really, really loved the Browns first two moves. Really, really hate that they've missed out on all those affordable corners and now it's down to paying more for a potentially terrific CB who's gonna be 30 and coming off a torn achilles. Could work out... could make us yearn for Keenan Lewis.
I figured we should focus on D and RG because it's gonna be tough to get f/a passcatchers to come here until we have a settled and productive QB sitch.
Well, in my other thread Scouts Inc. listed 5 CBs as being their equally rated #1 grade. And four of those remain unsigned. Grimes, Jammer, Gamble....and another. So, if you go by them, the best are still out there. (but yes, they may in fact be "older" guys. Gamble says he is retiring...so did Tony Gonzales. No one is retired until you get about into the middle of the regular season and a guy does not come back)
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S Louis Delmar Lions signed
WR Marlon Moore 49ers signed
Both now out of the picture.
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More players "out of the picture" for the Browns:
CB Brice McCain signed by Houston
CB Marquice Cole signed by NE
LB Niko Koutouvidies signed by NE
LB Jacob Cutrera signed by TB
CB E.J. Biggers signed by WASH.
These are not names that I know, nor do I believe the Browns were probably pursuing any of them.
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