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  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #1

    I have referred to the PFR's "Career Average" on several occasions....a statistic that is supposed to measure the productivity of a players career. Here are the top rated players from each franchise with their Career Average. I title this "the Best player", though that may be misleading. It is probably "the most productive player over the longest period of time":

    Chic./St.Louis/Arizona Cardinals...Jim Hart.....136

    Atlanta Falcons...Mike Kenn.....144

    Baltimore Ravens...Ray Lewis...222

    Buffalo Bills....Bruce Smith...187

    Carolina Panthers....Steve Smith...112

    Chicago Bears...Bill George....170

    Cincinnati Bengals....Anthony Munoz...177

    Cleveland Browns...Jim Brown....179

    Dallas Cowboys...Bob Lilly...172

    Denver Broncos...John Elway...203

    Detroit Lions...Barry Sanders...152

    Green Bay Packers...Brett Favre...221

    Houston Texans....Andre Johnson...104

    Balt/Indy Colts....Peyton Manning....220

    Jacksonville Jaguars...Jimmy Smith...119

    Kansas City Chiefs...Bobby Bell...149

    Miami Dolphins...Dan Marino...216

    Minnesota Vikings...Carl Eller...192

    New England Patriots...Tom Brady...178

    New Orleans Saints...Ricky Jackson...144

    New York Giants...Lawrence Taylor...182

    New York Jets...Larry Grantham...145

    Oakland/LA Raiders...Gene Upshaw...148

    Philadelphia Eagles...Chuck Bednarik...165

    Pittsburgh Steelers...Jack Ham...165

    San Diego Chargers...Dan Fouts...162

    San Francisco 49ers...Jerry Rice...215

    Seattle Seahawks...Steve Largent...140

    Cleve/LA/St. Louis Rams...Merlin Olsen...185

    Tampa Bay Buccaneers...Derrick Brooks...190

    Tenn/Houston Oilers/Titans...Bruce Matthews...182

    Washington Redskins....tie Darrell Green and Chris Hanburger...149

  • slowburnS slowburn wrote on last edited by slowburn
    #2

    Betcha Dan Marino would trade his "career average" accolades for just one ring.

    ditto for Fouts and Sanders among others

  • cdl15C cdl15 wrote on last edited by cdl15
    #3

    Fouts over tomlinson. I want a recount.

  • cdl15C cdl15 wrote on last edited by
    #4

    And my god chuck bednarik? This maybe the only list anywhere that has Him ahead of reggie white. Reggie white was voted #7 all time in espns vote.

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #5

    Some observations:

    According to this, the player that was most productive for his career for his team was Ray Lewis with a 222 score, which beats out Brett Favre by one point and Peyton Manning by 2. Do you buy that?

    But, I also think that this rating does have a lot to do with longevity. Though Lewis got a 222 career rate, it took him 17 years to accomplish that. His best single year was a 23 score, his second best a 19.

    His 17 year average score was: 222 divided by 17=13.058

    But take Jim Brown in comparison. He played only 9 years. He had a 179 career rate. But his averge score was 19.88. He had 5 years over a 20, and 4 years of 23 or more, which was Ray Lewis's best score ever.

    So, you see how longevity can play in here.

  • I have referred to the PFR's "Career Average" on several occasions....a statistic that is supposed to measure the productivity of a players career. Here are the top rated players from each franchise with their Career Average. I title this "the Best player", though that may be misleading. It is probably "the most productive player over the longest period of time":

    Chic./St.Louis/Arizona Cardinals...Jim Hart.....136

    Atlanta Falcons...Mike Kenn.....144

    Baltimore Ravens...Ray Lewis...222

    Buffalo Bills....Bruce Smith...187

    Carolina Panthers....Steve Smith...112

    Chicago Bears...Bill George....170

    Cincinnati Bengals....Anthony Munoz...177

    Cleveland Browns...Jim Brown....179

    Dallas Cowboys...Bob Lilly...172

    Denver Broncos...John Elway...203

    Detroit Lions...Barry Sanders...152

    Green Bay Packers...Brett Favre...221

    Houston Texans....Andre Johnson...104

    Balt/Indy Colts....Peyton Manning....220

    Jacksonville Jaguars...Jimmy Smith...119

    Kansas City Chiefs...Bobby Bell...149

    Miami Dolphins...Dan Marino...216

    Minnesota Vikings...Carl Eller...192

    New England Patriots...Tom Brady...178

    New Orleans Saints...Ricky Jackson...144

    New York Giants...Lawrence Taylor...182

    New York Jets...Larry Grantham...145

    Oakland/LA Raiders...Gene Upshaw...148

    Philadelphia Eagles...Chuck Bednarik...165

    Pittsburgh Steelers...Jack Ham...165

    San Diego Chargers...Dan Fouts...162

    San Francisco 49ers...Jerry Rice...215

    Seattle Seahawks...Steve Largent...140

    Cleve/LA/St. Louis Rams...Merlin Olsen...185

    Tampa Bay Buccaneers...Derrick Brooks...190

    Tenn/Houston Oilers/Titans...Bruce Matthews...182

    Washington Redskins....tie Darrell Green and Chris Hanburger...149

    cdl15C cdl15 wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

    I have referred to the PFR's "Career Average" on several occasions....a statistic that is supposed to measure the productivity of a players career. Here are the top rated players from each franchise with their Career Average. I title this "the Best player", though that may be misleading. It is probably "the most productive player over the longest period of time":

    Chic./St.Louis/Arizona Cardinals...Jim Hart.....136

    Atlanta Falcons...Mike Kenn.....144

    Baltimore Ravens...Ray Lewis...222

    Buffalo Bills....Bruce Smith...187

    Carolina Panthers....Steve Smith...112

    Chicago Bears...Bill George....170

    Cincinnati Bengals....Anthony Munoz...177

    Cleveland Browns...Jim Brown....179 Clay?

    Dallas Cowboys...Bob Lilly...172

    Denver Broncos...John Elway...203

    Detroit Lions...Barry Sanders...152

    Green Bay Packers...Brett Favre...221

    Houston Texans....Andre Johnson...104

    Balt/Indy Colts....Peyton Manning....220

    Jacksonville Jaguars...Jimmy Smith...119

    Kansas City Chiefs...Bobby Bell...149 tony G?

    Miami Dolphins...Dan Marino...216

    Minnesota Vikings...Carl Eller...192

    New England Patriots...Tom Brady...178

    New Orleans Saints...Ricky Jackson...144

    New York Giants...Lawrence Taylor...182

    New York Jets...Larry Grantham...145

    Oakland/LA Raiders...Gene Upshaw...148

    Philadelphia Eagles...Chuck Bednarik...165

    Pittsburgh Steelers...Jack Ham...165 ?????

    San Diego Chargers...Dan Fouts...162

    San Francisco 49ers...Jerry Rice...215

    Seattle Seahawks...Steve Largent...140

    Cleve/LA/St. Louis Rams...Merlin Olsen...185

    Tampa Bay Buccaneers...Derrick Brooks...190

    Tenn/Houston Oilers/Titans...Bruce Matthews...182

    Washington Redskins....tie Darrell Green and Chris Hanburger...149

  • Some observations:

    According to this, the player that was most productive for his career for his team was Ray Lewis with a 222 score, which beats out Brett Favre by one point and Peyton Manning by 2. Do you buy that?

    But, I also think that this rating does have a lot to do with longevity. Though Lewis got a 222 career rate, it took him 17 years to accomplish that. His best single year was a 23 score, his second best a 19.

    His 17 year average score was: 222 divided by 17=13.058

    But take Jim Brown in comparison. He played only 9 years. He had a 179 career rate. But his averge score was 19.88. He had 5 years over a 20, and 4 years of 23 or more, which was Ray Lewis's best score ever.

    So, you see how longevity can play in here.

    cdl15C cdl15 wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

    Some observations:

    According to this, the player that was most productive for his career for his team was Ray Lewis with a 222 score, which beats out Brett Favre by one point and Peyton Manning by 2. Do you buy that?

    But, I also think that this rating does have a lot to do with longevity. Though Lewis got a 222 career rate, it took him 17 years to accomplish that. His best single year was a 23 score, his second best a 19.

    His 17 year average score was: 222 divided by 17=13.058

    But take Jim Brown in comparison. He played only 9 years. He had a 179 career rate. But his averge score was 19.88. He had 5 years over a 20, and 4 years of 23 or more, which was Ray Lewis's best score ever.

    So, you see how longevity can play in here.

    so what was ed reed? Ray lewis is never the force he was without ed ballhawking?
  • slowburnS slowburn wrote on last edited by
    #8

    didn't pay off for Urlacher. 22 interceptions and 42 sacks in 13 years.

    Bill George must be 100% stud

  • And my god chuck bednarik? This maybe the only list anywhere that has Him ahead of reggie white. Reggie white was voted #7 all time in espns vote.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
    #9

    @cdl15 said:

    And my god chuck bednarik? This maybe the only list anywhere that has Him ahead of reggie white. Reggie white was voted #7 all time in espns vote.

    Chuck Bednarik gets extra points because he was a two way performer, both at center and LB.

    And....remember, these scores are what each of these players accomplished for that particular team.

    If a guy went to play elsewhere, like White, his Packer days would not count toward his Eagles days.

    Peyton Manning with his one year now with the Broncos has probably exceeded Lewis total score. Let me check.....

    OK, in doing so I found this:

    Reggie White had a career total average of 222....but only 128 of his points were accumulated while with the Eagles, 87 with the Packers and 7 with the Panthers. (Bednarik played his whole career with the Eagles)

    Peyton Manning has 235 Career Average points....220 with the Colts, 15 with the Broncos.

  • didn't pay off for Urlacher. 22 interceptions and 42 sacks in 13 years.

    Bill George must be 100% stud

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #10

    @slowburn said:

    didn't pay off for Urlacher. 22 interceptions and 42 sacks in 13 years.

    Bill George must be 100% stud

    Bill George was the guy that basically started the Bears MLB tradition. He was Butkus/Singletary/Urlacher before all of them.

    And yes, he is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Some observations:

    According to this, the player that was most productive for his career for his team was Ray Lewis with a 222 score, which beats out Brett Favre by one point and Peyton Manning by 2. Do you buy that?

    But, I also think that this rating does have a lot to do with longevity. Though Lewis got a 222 career rate, it took him 17 years to accomplish that. His best single year was a 23 score, his second best a 19.

    His 17 year average score was: 222 divided by 17=13.058

    But take Jim Brown in comparison. He played only 9 years. He had a 179 career rate. But his averge score was 19.88. He had 5 years over a 20, and 4 years of 23 or more, which was Ray Lewis's best score ever.

    So, you see how longevity can play in here.

    so what was ed reed? Ray lewis is never the force he was without ed ballhawking?
    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
    #11

    @cdl15 said:

    so what was ed reed? Ray lewis is never the force he was without ed ballhawking?

    Ed Reed is second on the Ravens list: Lewis 222, Reed 134, Ogden 115, Suggs 100.

    Reed has only played 11 years to Lewis's 17. That counts for a lot in this statistic.

  • didn't pay off for Urlacher. 22 interceptions and 42 sacks in 13 years.

    Bill George must be 100% stud

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #12

    @slowburn said:

    didn't pay off for Urlacher. 22 interceptions and 42 sacks in 13 years.

    Bill George must be 100% stud

    The Bears top Career Average players:

    Bill George 170

    Walter Payton 168

    Mike Singletary 159

    Brian Urlacher 153

    Butkus was #8. But note: George played 14 years for the Bears, Urlacher 13. Butkus only played 9 years. Again that longevity counts here.

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
    #13

    The Top 12 overall:

    1. Peyton Manning

    2. Jerry Rice

    3. Ray Lewis

    4. Alan Page

    5. Reggie White

    6. Brett Favre

    7. Fran Tarkenton

    8. Jim Brown

    9. Dan Marino

    10. John Unitas

    11. Carl Eller

    12. Bruce Smith

    But note this list of the same players based on the total number of years that each of the above 12 scored a 20 or above in this statistic:

    Jim Brown...5

    Carl Eller...3

    Alan Page...3

    Jerry Rice...2

    Peyton Manning...1

    Ray Lewis...1

    Fran Tarkenton...1

    Dan Marino...1

    Bruce Smith...1

    Reggie White..1

    Brett Favre...0

    John Unitas...0

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
    #14

    After a lengthy perusal of this subject where I have researched which of the various players in NFL history got a yearly average in this statistic of 20 in any given year, I find that these are the only players I could find who had Production averages of 20 or over in 2 or more years. (note....this statistic was only kept from 1950 onward):

    Jim Brown....5 years

    Carl Eller...3 years

    Alan Page...3 years

    Steve Young...3 years

    Emmitt Smith...3 years

    Edgerrin James...3 years

    Marshall Faulk...3 years

    Jerry Rice...2 years

    Derrick Brooks...2 years

    Tom Brady...2 years

    Ron Yary...2 years

    Lem Barney...2 years

    Jim Taylor...2 years

    Len Ford...2 years

    no one else had more than one year of a 20+ score.

    A few notables:

    Elway, none

    Montana, none

    Barry Sanders, 1

    OJ Simpson, 1

    Ergo...the conclusion that Jim Brown may have been the greatest, most productive player in NFL history is born out in this statistic...in that, no he didn't have more years than anyone, just more better years.