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  • Flyin JF Flyin J

    We better get at least a 2nd for Gordon. I'd take a ham and cheese lunchable for Little. Not a pizza one though they're pretty nasty.

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    We better get at least a 2nd for Gordon. I'd take a ham and cheese lunchable for Little. Not a pizza one though they're pretty nasty.

    Who's going to give us a second for him? He's too big a risk with the year suspension looming.

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  • Flyin JF Flyin J

    I wonder if they know how bad off we'll be cap wise in 4 years if our whole roster is from the 2014 draft and magically all these players work out.

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    I wonder if they know how bad off we'll be cap wise in 4 years if our whole roster is from the 2014 draft and magically all these players work out.

    will the front office be here in 4 years? Past situations say NO

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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  • VaporTrailV VaporTrail

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    We better get at least a 2nd for Gordon. I'd take a ham and cheese lunchable for Little. Not a pizza one though they're pretty nasty.

    Who's going to give us a second for him? He's too big a risk with the year suspension looming.

    @vaportrail said:

    Who's going to give us a second for him? He's too big a risk with the year suspension looming.

    How long does that last? I mean is that for the rest of his career? Anything less than that and we may as well keep him because were getting essentially nothing.
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    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    I wonder if they know how bad off we'll be cap wise in 4 years if our whole roster is from the 2014 draft and magically all these players work out.

    will the front office be here in 4 years? Past situations say NO

    @browns149 said:

    will the front office be here in 4 years? Past situations say NO

    Haha true
  • Flyin JF Flyin J

    @vaportrail said:

    Who's going to give us a second for him? He's too big a risk with the year suspension looming.

    How long does that last? I mean is that for the rest of his career? Anything less than that and we may as well keep him because were getting essentially nothing.

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    How long does that last? I mean is that for the rest of his career? Anything less than that and we may as well keep him because were getting essentially nothing.

    Doesn't it last until he fails again?

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."

  • I would try Little out at Runningback, he was one before. He can catch well enough to catch out the backfield like a RB though.

    ...I don't want Ben Tate....

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  • Two thoughts:

    • This seems like the thread to use for all the things Scheckter unleashed this morning.
    • Just re-watched the segment and a key phrase was: "One team has made a quality offer for gordon, but the Browns are awaiting better offers."

    Based on the latter... I don't think we are shopping either WR. I think we are entertaining offers and there's a world of difference. And now that the word is out, the offers will only get better...

    Will we get an offer we cannot refuse for either or both players? Stay tuned....

    And "offer" does not necessarily exclusively mean draft picks...

    And Ben Tate is awesome... it's really the only meat in Adam's report and thus the only bit to get excited about so far.

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  • Flyin JF Flyin J

    @vaportrail said:

    Who's going to give us a second for him? He's too big a risk with the year suspension looming.

    How long does that last? I mean is that for the rest of his career? Anything less than that and we may as well keep him because were getting essentially nothing.

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    How long does that last? I mean is that for the rest of his career? Anything less than that and we may as well keep him because were getting essentially nothing.

    I think a third rounder might be worth the dropoff if we end up using it to trade up.

    Flyin JF 1 Reply

  • Man we are getting hammered on the network pregame shows...brutal

  • VaporTrailV VaporTrail

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    How long does that last? I mean is that for the rest of his career? Anything less than that and we may as well keep him because were getting essentially nothing.

    I think a third rounder might be worth the dropoff if we end up using it to trade up.

    @vaportrail said:

    I think a third rounder might be worth the dropoff if we end up using it to trade up.

    See I think he's outplayed his 2nd round draft value. He has the ability to be a superstar reciever and there's no way we should entertain a 3rd round offer.
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  • One positive:

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    #NFL Media's Mike Silver reporting that #Browns LT Joe Thomas not on trading block, several teams have called, been turned away.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Two thoughts:

    • This seems like the thread to use for all the things Scheckter unleashed this morning.
    • Just re-watched the segment and a key phrase was: "One team has made a quality offer for gordon, but the Browns are awaiting better offers."

    Based on the latter... I don't think we are shopping either WR. I think we are entertaining offers and there's a world of difference. And now that the word is out, the offers will only get better...

    Will we get an offer we cannot refuse for either or both players? Stay tuned....

    And "offer" does not necessarily exclusively mean draft picks...

    And Ben Tate is awesome... it's really the only meat in Adam's report and thus the only bit to get excited about so far.

    @tour2ma said:

    Two thoughts:

    • This seems like the thread to use for all the things Scheckter unleashed this morning.
    • Just re-watched the segment and a key phrase was: "One team has made a quality offer for gordon, but the Browns are awaiting better offers."
    Based on the latter... I don't think we are shopping either WR. I think we are entertaining offers and there's a world of difference. And now that the word is out, the offers will only get better...

    Will we get an offer we cannot refuse for either or both players? Stay tuned....

    And "offer" does not necessarily exclusively mean draft picks...

    And Ben Tate is awesome... it's really the only meat in Adam's report and thus the only bit to get excited about so far.

    Shopping/entertaining offers....one and the same to me. And that's especially true with this report because now everyone knows he's available.
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  • Flyin JF Flyin J

    @vaportrail said:

    I think a third rounder might be worth the dropoff if we end up using it to trade up.

    See I think he's outplayed his 2nd round draft value. He has the ability to be a superstar reciever and there's no way we should entertain a 3rd round offer.

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    See I think he's outplayed his 2nd round draft value. He has the ability to be a superstar reciever and there's no way we should entertain a 3rd round offer.

    I agree with you, but I just really doubt anyone's going to give us a second for him. I think we're better off keeping him for anything less than a third.

  • Flyin JF Flyin J

    @tour2ma said:

    Two thoughts:

    • This seems like the thread to use for all the things Scheckter unleashed this morning.
    • Just re-watched the segment and a key phrase was: "One team has made a quality offer for gordon, but the Browns are awaiting better offers."
    Based on the latter... I don't think we are shopping either WR. I think we are entertaining offers and there's a world of difference. And now that the word is out, the offers will only get better...

    Will we get an offer we cannot refuse for either or both players? Stay tuned....

    And "offer" does not necessarily exclusively mean draft picks...

    And Ben Tate is awesome... it's really the only meat in Adam's report and thus the only bit to get excited about so far.

    Shopping/entertaining offers....one and the same to me. And that's especially true with this report because now everyone knows he's available.

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    Shopping/entertaining offers....one and the same to me. And that's especially true with this report because now everyone knows he's available.

    They can call it whatever they want. The Browns would trade either WR if they get what they want

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."

  • And on 1100 earlier I hear Ban/Lo taking credit for building a good D. and that is what they want to do for the O. Did I miss something?

  • Gordon will be targeted the most today.If he does well he'll be gone by Wednesday.

  • Browns turned down Denver's offer for Joe Thomas, said he's not available. It isn't a fire sale.

    I would NOT trade Josh Gordon. I think he can be a super talent and he's going to grow up. Everybody does. And yeah, that trade would upset me a lot more than trading "3.4," because as someone else said, Gordon has actually shown talent. BUT... you don't trade someone to get worse. It would mean the Browns believe he isn't going to stay clean.

    I actually do trust Banner/Lombardi. I think they get it. So at least for the next 18 months, I'm a believer.

  • Love, love, LOVE the Ben Tate idea.

  • S Shep

    Love, love, LOVE the Ben Tate idea.

    @shep said:

    Love, love, LOVE the Ben Tate idea.

    Sounds good to me also. He is an upgrade from Trent for sure

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."

  • I guess Banner/Lombo brought in Kruger and Bryant along with Horton. D has been pretty good so far but wasn't that bad to begin with. Arguably got worse with no replacement at CB 2.

    I wouldn't trade Gordon for less than a 1st. The WR classes lately have been pretty awful. He's arguably the best young WR in the league in the past few years.

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