Sunday Football Overall Take
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He might be the greatest Regular season QB of all-time, but he has not been very good in the Playoffs
Peyton is 9-11 career in playoff games and SEVERAL of those games he had bad games with turnovers. I've said for years Peyton's legacy needs another super bowl ring for him to get the 'greatest of all time' tag. Hell, looking at playoff wings Flacco is markedly better. People get all pissy when I say it but Manning has only been mediocre in the crunch time throughout his career.
Peyton is 9-11 career in playoff games and SEVERAL of those games he had bad games with turnovers. I've said for years Peyton's legacy needs another super bowl ring for him to get the 'greatest of all time' tag. Hell, looking at playoff wings Flacco is markedly better. People get all pissy when I say it but Manning has only been mediocre in the crunch time throughout his career.
As far as "greatest of all time", statistically, Manning is still far behind Favre in most statistical categories: He is 11,000 yards behind, 1100 completions behind, 60 TDs behind. It will take him at least 2-3 years of prime production to pass those numbers.
And right now, both Favre and P.Manning have one SB win and one SB loss.
So, I am not prepared to say that P. Manning is either the greatest regular season QB of all time nor the greatest overall..
The numbers don't support it. The Championships don't support it.
I would not place him above the likes of Joe Montana with his 4 rings, or Brady with his 3 + 5 appearances.
(If the other Manning brother had not pulled off a couple of fluky wins vs. Brady, is there any doubt if TB had 5 SB titles that he would be no doubt considered the greatest?)
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Peyton is 9-11 career in playoff games and SEVERAL of those games he had bad games with turnovers. I've said for years Peyton's legacy needs another super bowl ring for him to get the 'greatest of all time' tag. Hell, looking at playoff wings Flacco is markedly better. People get all pissy when I say it but Manning has only been mediocre in the crunch time throughout his career.
As far as "greatest of all time", statistically, Manning is still far behind Favre in most statistical categories: He is 11,000 yards behind, 1100 completions behind, 60 TDs behind. It will take him at least 2-3 years of prime production to pass those numbers.
And right now, both Favre and P.Manning have one SB win and one SB loss.
So, I am not prepared to say that P. Manning is either the greatest regular season QB of all time nor the greatest overall..
The numbers don't support it. The Championships don't support it.
I would not place him above the likes of Joe Montana with his 4 rings, or Brady with his 3 + 5 appearances.
(If the other Manning brother had not pulled off a couple of fluky wins vs. Brady, is there any doubt if TB had 5 SB titles that he would be no doubt considered the greatest?)
As far as "greatest of all time", statistically, Manning is still far behind Favre in most statistical categories: He is 11,000 yards behind, 1100 completions behind, 60 TDs behind. It will take him at least 2-3 years of prime production to pass those numbers.
And right now, both Favre and P.Manning have one SB win and one SB loss.
So, I am not prepared to say that P. Manning is either the greatest regular season QB of all time nor the greatest overall..
The numbers don't support it. The Championships don't support it.
I would not place him above the likes of Joe Montana with his 4 rings, or Brady with his 3 + 5 appearances.
(If the other Manning brother had not pulled off a couple of fluky wins vs. Brady, is there any doubt if TB had 5 SB titles that he would be no doubt considered the greatest?)
I know Brett was around forever and a day. Do you have any comparisons in the number of games played? Or even in the same number of years. Just curious.
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As far as "greatest of all time", statistically, Manning is still far behind Favre in most statistical categories: He is 11,000 yards behind, 1100 completions behind, 60 TDs behind. It will take him at least 2-3 years of prime production to pass those numbers.
And right now, both Favre and P.Manning have one SB win and one SB loss.
So, I am not prepared to say that P. Manning is either the greatest regular season QB of all time nor the greatest overall..
The numbers don't support it. The Championships don't support it.
I would not place him above the likes of Joe Montana with his 4 rings, or Brady with his 3 + 5 appearances.
(If the other Manning brother had not pulled off a couple of fluky wins vs. Brady, is there any doubt if TB had 5 SB titles that he would be no doubt considered the greatest?)
I know Brett was around forever and a day. Do you have any comparisons in the number of games played? Or even in the same number of years. Just curious.
I know Brett was around forever and a day. Do you have any comparisons in the number of games played? Or even in the same number of years. Just curious.
Uh, sure:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/F/FavrBr00.htm
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MannPe00.htm
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Peyton is 9-11 career in playoff games and SEVERAL of those games he had bad games with turnovers. I've said for years Peyton's legacy needs another super bowl ring for him to get the 'greatest of all time' tag. Hell, looking at playoff wings Flacco is markedly better. People get all pissy when I say it but Manning has only been mediocre in the crunch time throughout his career.
As far as "greatest of all time", statistically, Manning is still far behind Favre in most statistical categories: He is 11,000 yards behind, 1100 completions behind, 60 TDs behind. It will take him at least 2-3 years of prime production to pass those numbers.
And right now, both Favre and P.Manning have one SB win and one SB loss.
So, I am not prepared to say that P. Manning is either the greatest regular season QB of all time nor the greatest overall..
The numbers don't support it. The Championships don't support it.
I would not place him above the likes of Joe Montana with his 4 rings, or Brady with his 3 + 5 appearances.
(If the other Manning brother had not pulled off a couple of fluky wins vs. Brady, is there any doubt if TB had 5 SB titles that he would be no doubt considered the greatest?)
As far as "greatest of all time", statistically, Manning is still far behind Favre in most statistical categories: He is 11,000 yards behind, 1100 completions behind, 60 TDs behind. It will take him at least 2-3 years of prime production to pass those numbers.
And right now, both Favre and P.Manning have one SB win and one SB loss.
So, I am not prepared to say that P. Manning is either the greatest regular season QB of all time nor the greatest overall..
The numbers don't support it. The Championships don't support it.
I would not place him above the likes of Joe Montana with his 4 rings, or Brady with his 3 + 5 appearances.
(If the other Manning brother had not pulled off a couple of fluky wins vs. Brady, is there any doubt if TB had 5 SB titles that he would be no doubt considered the greatest?)
I don't disagree with anything you say there. I more meant right now with his playoff record and lone super bowl win there's several guys I'd place above him (that you've named above). I just don't get how people seem to look past the guys shaky postseason play like it's no big deal. To get into that greatest of all time conversation there's no way one can have a losing playoff record.
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As far as "greatest of all time", statistically, Manning is still far behind Favre in most statistical categories: He is 11,000 yards behind, 1100 completions behind, 60 TDs behind. It will take him at least 2-3 years of prime production to pass those numbers.
And right now, both Favre and P.Manning have one SB win and one SB loss.
So, I am not prepared to say that P. Manning is either the greatest regular season QB of all time nor the greatest overall..
The numbers don't support it. The Championships don't support it.
I would not place him above the likes of Joe Montana with his 4 rings, or Brady with his 3 + 5 appearances.
(If the other Manning brother had not pulled off a couple of fluky wins vs. Brady, is there any doubt if TB had 5 SB titles that he would be no doubt considered the greatest?)
I don't disagree with anything you say there. I more meant right now with his playoff record and lone super bowl win there's several guys I'd place above him (that you've named above). I just don't get how people seem to look past the guys shaky postseason play like it's no big deal. To get into that greatest of all time conversation there's no way one can have a losing playoff record.
I don't disagree with anything you say there. I more meant right now with his playoff record and lone super bowl win there's several guys I'd place above him (that you've named above). I just don't get how people seem to look past the guys shaky postseason play like it's no big deal. To get into that greatest of all time conversation there's no way one can have a losing playoff record.
Yea, its not like you can compare him to Otto Graham or Bart Starr even in that regard.
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Mannings post season record will keep him from being the greatest of all time. At least for now. 9-11 in the playoffs is not good enough to be considered the GOAT. Plus he's been in the playoffs 12 times and has lost the first game 8 times. He has won playoff games in only 4 different seasons
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