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  • I'd offer them one of our first rounders for Eli and I would probably give them both for a guy with 2 super bowl rings and a sieve for an offensive line this season.

    @mark-o said:

    I'd offer them one of our first rounders for Eli and I would probably give them both for a guy with 2 super bowl rings and a sieve for an offensive line this season.

    I can agree as far as offering our lowest 1st round pick. I have to admit I would pull that trigger fast.

  • Offer the Giants one or both of our first round picks for Eli.

    @mark-o said:

    Offer the Giants one or both of our first round picks for Eli.

    No way, no fucking way in hell we should bring in another pocket squatter unless it's the older Manning. Young Eli gets "murdered" here in Cleveland. His brother the onsite OC makes it work cause he knows who's gonna get close to him or blitz him before they do...he's a fucking Jedi i'm not joking, not even slightly. The dude is Yoda with his shit. Eli, he has to have the right situation to win...which is not here in Cleveland.

  • There's way too many good young qb's coming out this draft to give even a late 1st rounder for Eli. We have him study under Hoyer next season, that's got to be the plan. We'll likely need that 2nd 1st rounder and possibly even a 3rd 1st round pick if we get over on someone with Gordon.....on a tall Seattle style DB or if there's a megatron type WR out there.

  • we need a servicable QB now. hoyer next year with a number one pick is fine with me. I think our season is totally lost with Weeden. 10 more games of this shit?

  • Yeah..those 6 yards he led us to in the 3rd quarter was awe inspiring.

    Funny how the play calling and the o-line looked so much better with a different QB.

    @mark-o said:

    Yeah..those 6 yards he led us to in the 3rd quarter was awe inspiring.

    Funny how the play calling and the o-line looked so much better with a different QB.

    i'm not disputing that hoyer played better and the team looked better under him but as someone else has pointed out it's either we are making no adjustments or too many of them.

    i have no problem starting campbell but to bring in any of those bums you listed is just dumb. let weeden crash and burn. at least we will have known that he was never going to be the guy. also it's amazing how everyone was cheering for him saying he looked great in the first half of the game and now he's the worse QB ever to play the position.

    man some of you fans flip on and off like light switches. if we lose every game the rest of e season would you be surprised?

    not me. the air went out of the tire when hoyer went down. to make roster moves now for matt flynn or david FUCKIN carr? c'mon mark.

  • we need a servicable QB now. hoyer next year with a number one pick is fine with me. I think our season is totally lost with Weeden. 10 more games of this shit?

    @lbc-mike said:

    we need a servicable QB now. hoyer next year with a number one pick is fine with me. I think our season is totally lost with Weeden. 10 more games of this shit?

    what also needs to happen is that people for a moment forget about that numbnut fucking flip and evaluate Weeden for the last two games he's been back. Yeah he did enough to come in and win in Buffalo and yeah he was doing enough to have us up 10 pts going into the half....but in both the Buffalo game and today, he misses some outrageously standard throws that would have been for big gains. There was a near touchdown today that wouldn't have counted anyway cause there was a penalty called....but he missed someone in the endzone who came off his route so blatantly open it was infuriating. And on another pass he overfuckingthrew Travis Benjamin streaking down the sideline. Now we all know Travis is "gone" if that sideline route hits him stride. There's no way that safety that was closing had a shot at him "IF" it hits him stride. So I get that Weeden was trying to do exactly that but how fucking bad do you have to be to overthrow one of the fastest mo'f'ers in all of football by like 3 or 4 yards? It wasn't "just off his fingertips". Travis was in full gallop so even Bolt wouldn't have got infront of a ball thrown that far infront. There's just a serious disconnect between Weeden and the offense. That disconnect was "instantly" gone with Hoyer under center....for the life of me i can't figure out why.

  • @mark-o said:

    Yeah..those 6 yards he led us to in the 3rd quarter was awe inspiring.

    Funny how the play calling and the o-line looked so much better with a different QB.

    i'm not disputing that hoyer played better and the team looked better under him but as someone else has pointed out it's either we are making no adjustments or too many of them.

    i have no problem starting campbell but to bring in any of those bums you listed is just dumb. let weeden crash and burn. at least we will have known that he was never going to be the guy. also it's amazing how everyone was cheering for him saying he looked great in the first half of the game and now he's the worse QB ever to play the position.

    man some of you fans flip on and off like light switches. if we lose every game the rest of e season would you be surprised?

    not me. the air went out of the tire when hoyer went down. to make roster moves now for matt flynn or david FUCKIN carr? c'mon mark.

    @miktoxic said:

    i'm not disputing that hoyer played better and the team looked better under him but as someone else has pointed out it's either we are making no adjustments or too many of them.

    i have no problem starting campbell but to bring in any of those bums you listed is just dumb. let weeden crash and burn. at least we will have known that he was never going to be the guy. also it's amazing how everyone was cheering for him saying he looked great in the first half of the game and now he's the worse QB ever to play the position.

    man some of you fans flip on and off like light switches. if we lose every game the rest of e season would you be surprised?

    not me. the air went out of the tire when hoyer went down. to make roster moves now for matt flynn or david FUCKIN carr? c'mon mark.

    I agree there's absolutely no point in giving up "any" mobility in the FA mkt or the draft next season for a band aid. Only for a guys who's sitting on the couch or bagging groceries.

  • @lbc-mike said:

    we need a servicable QB now. hoyer next year with a number one pick is fine with me. I think our season is totally lost with Weeden. 10 more games of this shit?

    what also needs to happen is that people for a moment forget about that numbnut fucking flip and evaluate Weeden for the last two games he's been back. Yeah he did enough to come in and win in Buffalo and yeah he was doing enough to have us up 10 pts going into the half....but in both the Buffalo game and today, he misses some outrageously standard throws that would have been for big gains. There was a near touchdown today that wouldn't have counted anyway cause there was a penalty called....but he missed someone in the endzone who came off his route so blatantly open it was infuriating. And on another pass he overfuckingthrew Travis Benjamin streaking down the sideline. Now we all know Travis is "gone" if that sideline route hits him stride. There's no way that safety that was closing had a shot at him "IF" it hits him stride. So I get that Weeden was trying to do exactly that but how fucking bad do you have to be to overthrow one of the fastest mo'f'ers in all of football by like 3 or 4 yards? It wasn't "just off his fingertips". Travis was in full gallop so even Bolt wouldn't have got infront of a ball thrown that far infront. There's just a serious disconnect between Weeden and the offense. That disconnect was "instantly" gone with Hoyer under center....for the life of me i can't figure out why.

    @clevfan4life said:

    That disconnect was "instantly" gone with Hoyer under center....for the life of me i can't figure out why.

    Because Hoyer is 10 times the QB than Brandy will ever be. 😉

  • @miktoxic said:

    i'm not disputing that hoyer played better and the team looked better under him but as someone else has pointed out it's either we are making no adjustments or too many of them.

    i have no problem starting campbell but to bring in any of those bums you listed is just dumb. let weeden crash and burn. at least we will have known that he was never going to be the guy. also it's amazing how everyone was cheering for him saying he looked great in the first half of the game and now he's the worse QB ever to play the position.

    man some of you fans flip on and off like light switches. if we lose every game the rest of e season would you be surprised?

    not me. the air went out of the tire when hoyer went down. to make roster moves now for matt flynn or david FUCKIN carr? c'mon mark.

    I agree there's absolutely no point in giving up "any" mobility in the FA mkt or the draft next season for a band aid. Only for a guys who's sitting on the couch or bagging groceries.

    @clevfan4life said:

    I agree there's absolutely no point in giving up "any" mobility in the FA mkt or the draft next season for a band aid. Only for a guys who's sitting on the couch or bagging groceries.

    +1

    Miks hitting on all cylinders tonight, must be a new blend of whiskey...

  • I just don't want to go on the weeden train wreck this year. I know we need a QB, center, WR, Guard, CB, kicker. QB we need to fix now. all the others will be upgraded next year including QB. Mack is gone after this year.

  • Lol, if Eli were dominating no one would be thinking about trading for him.

    The Giants suck, not Eli.

    I'd give whatever the Giants asked for him draft pick-wise.

  • What the..Mack is gone?

    ok im game, why?

  • What the..Mack is gone?

    ok im game, why?

    @erie-dawg said:

    What the..Mack is gone?

    ok im game, why?

    Because Mack does not want to be here...

  • @erie-dawg said:

    What the..Mack is gone?

    ok im game, why?

    Because Mack does not want to be here...

    @nickers said:

    Because Mack does not want to be here...

    Is that a guess? I listened to an interview a week or so ago and he didn't lead into nothing like that, he was positive about the whole offense, Chud, Horton, the FO...
  • This is his last year of his contract. FA next year

  • This is his last year of his contract. FA next year

    @lbc-mike said:

    This is his last year of his contract. FA next year

    just spit it out will ya...
  • Well when you provide a good reason go ahead and post it.

    But because his contract is up don't mean he is gone.

  • supposidly he is not happy.

  • If only we hadn't cut Thad Lewis at the end of last year....

  • he does not want to negotiate right now for a new contract till season end