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  • My reasoning is simple.

    He has more wins than Weeden.

    He has more TD's than Weeden.

    He has less INT's than Weeden.

    He has more playoff experience than Weeden.

    He has more media appeal than Weeden.

    He sells more jerseys than Weeden.

    He isn't Brandon Weeden.

    Of his 9 wins, 7 have been fourth quarter or late game comebacks. His 2nd half rating is in the 90s.

    He has a horseshoe up his ass and good things seem to happen with him around, which is the complete opposite of anyone who's worn a Browns jersey in the last 25 years.

    If Campbell goes down, why go back to the guy who's won us exactly zero games as a starter this season? What has Weeden shown to make you want to dip back into that experiment again?

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    My reasoning is simple.

    He has more wins than Weeden.

    He has more TD's than Weeden.

    He has less INT's than Weeden.

    He has more playoff experience than Weeden.

    He has more media appeal than Weeden.

    He sells more jerseys than Weeden.

    He isn't Brandon Weeden.

    Of his 9 wins, 7 have been fourth quarter or late game comebacks. His 2nd half rating is in the 90s.

    He has a horseshoe up his ass and good things seem to happen with him around, which is the complete opposite of anyone who's worn a Browns jersey in the last 25 years.

    If Campbell goes down, why go back to the guy who's won us exactly zero games as a starter this season? What has Weeden shown to make you want to dip back into that experiment again?

    Go marry the motherfucker if you like him so well. Or at least propose to him....see how he reacts.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    My reasoning is simple.

    He has more wins than Weeden.

    He has more TD's than Weeden.

    He has less INT's than Weeden.

    He has more playoff experience than Weeden.

    He has more media appeal than Weeden.

    He sells more jerseys than Weeden.

    He isn't Brandon Weeden.

    Of his 9 wins, 7 have been fourth quarter or late game comebacks. His 2nd half rating is in the 90s.

    He has a horseshoe up his ass and good things seem to happen with him around, which is the complete opposite of anyone who's worn a Browns jersey in the last 25 years.

    If Campbell goes down, why go back to the guy who's won us exactly zero games as a starter this season? What has Weeden shown to make you want to dip back into that experiment again?

    Go marry the motherfucker if you like him so well. Or at least propose to him....see how he reacts.

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
    #25

    @the-gipper said:

    Go marry the motherfucker if you like him so well. Or at least propose to him....see how he reacts.

    Aw, somebody's pussy hurts.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Go marry the motherfucker if you like him so well. Or at least propose to him....see how he reacts.

    Aw, somebody's pussy hurts.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #26

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Aw, somebody's pussy hurts.

    Yours...by giving yourself too much self gratification while staring at your wall size Tebow poster. 😮 (and you need to perhaps use a little lubricant on your vibrator to avoid that)

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Aw, somebody's pussy hurts.

    Yours...by giving yourself too much self gratification while staring at your wall size Tebow poster. 😮 (and you need to perhaps use a little lubricant on your vibrator to avoid that)

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
    #27

    @the-gipper said:

    Yours...by giving yourself too much self gratification while staring at your wall size Tebow poster. 😮 (and you need to perhaps use a little lubricant on your vibrator to avoid that)

    I know that you have nothing to do in your old age, but please refrain from picturing me masturbating.

    It's creepy how you spend your time.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Yours...by giving yourself too much self gratification while staring at your wall size Tebow poster. 😮 (and you need to perhaps use a little lubricant on your vibrator to avoid that)

    I know that you have nothing to do in your old age, but please refrain from picturing me masturbating.

    It's creepy how you spend your time.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
    #28

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I know that you have nothing to do in your old age, but please refrain from picturing me masturbating.

    It's creepy how you spend your time.

    We are the ones creeped out by your public self flaggelation over Tebow here, on this forum. It is creepy how you have made us spend our time thinking about it. It is creepier having to be exposed to the specter of you actually doing it.

    I mean, after all, this is from YOUR profile:

    Gender:Male

    • Location:Behind you.
  • My reasoning is simple.

    He has more wins than Weeden.

    He has more TD's than Weeden.

    He has less INT's than Weeden.

    He has more playoff experience than Weeden.

    He has more media appeal than Weeden.

    He sells more jerseys than Weeden.

    He isn't Brandon Weeden.

    Of his 9 wins, 7 have been fourth quarter or late game comebacks. His 2nd half rating is in the 90s.

    He has a horseshoe up his ass and good things seem to happen with him around, which is the complete opposite of anyone who's worn a Browns jersey in the last 25 years.

    If Campbell goes down, why go back to the guy who's won us exactly zero games as a starter this season? What has Weeden shown to make you want to dip back into that experiment again?

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
    #29

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    My reasoning is simple.

    He has more wins than Weeden.

    He has more TD's than Weeden.

    He has less INT's than Weeden.

    He has more playoff experience than Weeden.

    He has more media appeal than Weeden.

    He sells more jerseys than Weeden.

    He isn't Brandon Weeden.

    Of his 9 wins, 7 have been fourth quarter or late game comebacks. His 2nd half rating is in the 90s.

    He has a horseshoe up his ass and good things seem to happen with him around, which is the complete opposite of anyone who's worn a Browns jersey in the last 25 years.

    If Campbell goes down, why go back to the guy who's won us exactly zero games as a starter this season? What has Weeden shown to make you want to dip back into that experiment again?

    Red In the eyes of Browns fans, that would apply to any other qb in the NFL. So Tebow has a nice TD\Interception ratio, and a playoff win against the Steelers. Doesn't make up for the fact the rest of the time he can't hit the broadside of a barn with his passes, and his mechanics are still a mess. Jets released him, NE cut him, the Rams didn't want him after Bradford blew out his knee. Three strikes and you're out. Campbell gets hurt- let Gray or Edwards run the show- the season's over, why waste time and money bringing the circus into town?

  • Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
    #30

    Doesn't know the offense, doesn't fit the offense, not a quick read ...

    Zombo

    --Not gonna happen.

  • VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
    #31

    Can we institute a rule where you get banned for a week if you make a post about Tebow coming to Cleveland?

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    My reasoning is simple.

    He has more wins than Weeden.

    He has more TD's than Weeden.

    He has less INT's than Weeden.

    He has more playoff experience than Weeden.

    He has more media appeal than Weeden.

    He sells more jerseys than Weeden.

    He isn't Brandon Weeden.

    Of his 9 wins, 7 have been fourth quarter or late game comebacks. His 2nd half rating is in the 90s.

    He has a horseshoe up his ass and good things seem to happen with him around, which is the complete opposite of anyone who's worn a Browns jersey in the last 25 years.

    If Campbell goes down, why go back to the guy who's won us exactly zero games as a starter this season? What has Weeden shown to make you want to dip back into that experiment again?

    Red In the eyes of Browns fans, that would apply to any other qb in the NFL. So Tebow has a nice TD\Interception ratio, and a playoff win against the Steelers. Doesn't make up for the fact the rest of the time he can't hit the broadside of a barn with his passes, and his mechanics are still a mess. Jets released him, NE cut him, the Rams didn't want him after Bradford blew out his knee. Three strikes and you're out. Campbell gets hurt- let Gray or Edwards run the show- the season's over, why waste time and money bringing the circus into town?

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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    @hoorta said:

    Red In the eyes of Browns fans, that would apply to any other qb in the NFL. So Tebow has a nice TD\Interception ratio, and a playoff win against the Steelers. Doesn't make up for the fact the rest of the time he can't hit the broadside of a barn with his passes, and his mechanics are still a mess. Jets released him, NE cut him, the Rams didn't want him after Bradford blew out his knee. Three strikes and you're out. Campbell gets hurt- let Gray or Edwards run the show- the season's over, why waste time and money bringing the circus into town?

    The circus sells tickets, which puts more money in Jimmy's pockets, which, under the new CBA, means more money into the Browns.

    I'm fine with that. If we're gonna lose, which we will, I'd rather us make money.

    And if you guys are so tired of reading Tenow posts, why click on the thread that is about Tebow? What did you expect to read?

  • N NaplesBrowns420 wrote on last edited by
    #33

    3rd string QB = Armonti Edwards.

  • @hoorta said:

    Red In the eyes of Browns fans, that would apply to any other qb in the NFL. So Tebow has a nice TD\Interception ratio, and a playoff win against the Steelers. Doesn't make up for the fact the rest of the time he can't hit the broadside of a barn with his passes, and his mechanics are still a mess. Jets released him, NE cut him, the Rams didn't want him after Bradford blew out his knee. Three strikes and you're out. Campbell gets hurt- let Gray or Edwards run the show- the season's over, why waste time and money bringing the circus into town?

    The circus sells tickets, which puts more money in Jimmy's pockets, which, under the new CBA, means more money into the Browns.

    I'm fine with that. If we're gonna lose, which we will, I'd rather us make money.

    And if you guys are so tired of reading Tenow posts, why click on the thread that is about Tebow? What did you expect to read?

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    The circus sells tickets, which puts more money in Jimmy's pockets, which, under the new CBA, means more money into the Browns.

    I'm fine with that. If we're gonna lose, which we will, I'd rather us make money.

    And if you guys are so tired of reading Tenow posts, why click on the thread that is about Tebow? What did you expect to read?

    The circus also tears apart teams... not BoBo vs. Wheezy... BoBo vs. Campbell...

    Fan base and team would ultimately split first time Campbell stumbles.

    Even the BoBo in your eyes is not worth that...

  • C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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    we would seriously rather see armonti and gray over Tebow? I couldn't stand Tebow in college and don't really like him now but if there's absolutely nobody else I'd rather see him than what we currently have. He won't come here anyway cause he knows even if he gets us into the playoffs he won't beat out Hoyer or Campbell in camp next year....or even the noob we draft. We just have to sign somebody, that's all there is to it. Campbell's gonna take off running again and teams KNOW if they can knock campbell out of the game the browns players all will deflate. On both sides of the ball. O and D players both will collectively mumble the word fuck if Campbell goes down cause they know what's comin.

  • cdl15C cdl15 wrote on last edited by
    #36

    Wanting tebow as your quarterback when no nfl or half of the Cfl wants him= credibility never really there to begin with

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    The circus sells tickets, which puts more money in Jimmy's pockets, which, under the new CBA, means more money into the Browns.

    I'm fine with that. If we're gonna lose, which we will, I'd rather us make money.

    And if you guys are so tired of reading Tenow posts, why click on the thread that is about Tebow? What did you expect to read?

    The circus also tears apart teams... not BoBo vs. Wheezy... BoBo vs. Campbell...

    Fan base and team would ultimately split first time Campbell stumbles.

    Even the BoBo in your eyes is not worth that...

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
    #37

    @tour2ma said:

    The circus also tears apart teams... not BoBo vs. Wheezy... BoBo vs. Campbell...

    Fan base and team would ultimately split first time Campbell stumbles.

    Even the BoBo in your eyes is not worth that...

    We're talking about if Campbell goes down with an injury.

    Not today.

  • Wanting tebow as your quarterback when no nfl or half of the Cfl wants him= credibility never really there to begin with

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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    @cdl15 said:

    Wanting tebow as your quarterback when no nfl or half of the Cfl wants him= credibility never really there to begin with

    Do you think there's a team in the NFL that would take Weeden after seeing him perform?

    Most of the NFL didn't want Colt McCoy either.

    We seem to have a thing for bottom barrel quarterbacks.

  • @hoorta said:

    Red In the eyes of Browns fans, that would apply to any other qb in the NFL. So Tebow has a nice TD\Interception ratio, and a playoff win against the Steelers. Doesn't make up for the fact the rest of the time he can't hit the broadside of a barn with his passes, and his mechanics are still a mess. Jets released him, NE cut him, the Rams didn't want him after Bradford blew out his knee. Three strikes and you're out. Campbell gets hurt- let Gray or Edwards run the show- the season's over, why waste time and money bringing the circus into town?

    The circus sells tickets, which puts more money in Jimmy's pockets, which, under the new CBA, means more money into the Browns.

    I'm fine with that. If we're gonna lose, which we will, I'd rather us make money.

    And if you guys are so tired of reading Tenow posts, why click on the thread that is about Tebow? What did you expect to read?

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
    #39

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    The circus sells tickets, which puts more money in Jimmy's pockets, which, under the new CBA, means more money into the Browns.

    I'm fine with that. If we're gonna lose, which we will, I'd rather us make money.

    And if you guys are so tired of reading Tenow posts, why click on the thread that is about Tebow? What did you expect to read?

    Har, har. Tebow will sell tickets? You kidding me? Maybe at a Evangelical Revival. First Energy is essentially sold out, save the cheap seats. You should know better than that- gameday ticket sales are only a small portion of an owners revenue. The big bucks come through TV revenue- to the tune of Directv shelling out something like $4 billion for the exclusive rights to Sunday Ticket, networks are probably even more than that, though I'm too lazy to look it up. Haslam probably makes more money in beer sales during a game than he would if the Tebow lovers flocked out to buy up the few thousand remaining tickets.

    Pretty much been conclusively proven Tebow isn't an NFL caliber quarterback- can you say that about Edwards or Gray? So why not give them a shot, if Campbell gets hurt?

  • C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
    #40

    of course he isn't an NFL qb, we're not talking about bringing him in to seriously compete with campell and hoyer next year. But if he's out there and Campell goes down, at least Tebow can do "some" things on the field that our other guys likely cannot. Until I see those other guys throw the ball I'm gonna assume that they're not a whole lot better than tebow given that their main position in the league isn't qb. Tebow has at least practiced as a qb. And yes I would absolutely rather see him at this point than weeden. I know weeden can throw the ball better but I don't care. weeden will make some spectacular throws, I get it. I just can't take his bad ones anymore. I'd rather see Tebow short hop balls to the receivers than see Weeden rifle a ball at a guys face from 10 yds away and see the defense go into tip drill mode. I can't take it anymore.

  • @cdl15 said:

    Wanting tebow as your quarterback when no nfl or half of the Cfl wants him= credibility never really there to begin with

    Do you think there's a team in the NFL that would take Weeden after seeing him perform?

    Most of the NFL didn't want Colt McCoy either.

    We seem to have a thing for bottom barrel quarterbacks.

    cdl15C cdl15 wrote on last edited by
    #41

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Do you think there's a team in the NFL that would take Weeden after seeing him perform?

    Most of the NFL didn't want Colt McCoy either.

    We seem to have a thing for bottom barrel quarterbackswweden will have a job before teabag

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    The circus sells tickets, which puts more money in Jimmy's pockets, which, under the new CBA, means more money into the Browns.

    I'm fine with that. If we're gonna lose, which we will, I'd rather us make money.

    And if you guys are so tired of reading Tenow posts, why click on the thread that is about Tebow? What did you expect to read?

    Har, har. Tebow will sell tickets? You kidding me? Maybe at a Evangelical Revival. First Energy is essentially sold out, save the cheap seats. You should know better than that- gameday ticket sales are only a small portion of an owners revenue. The big bucks come through TV revenue- to the tune of Directv shelling out something like $4 billion for the exclusive rights to Sunday Ticket, networks are probably even more than that, though I'm too lazy to look it up. Haslam probably makes more money in beer sales during a game than he would if the Tebow lovers flocked out to buy up the few thousand remaining tickets.

    Pretty much been conclusively proven Tebow isn't an NFL caliber quarterback- can you say that about Edwards or Gray? So why not give them a shot, if Campbell gets hurt?

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
    #42

    @hoorta said:

    Har, har. Tebow will sell tickets? You kidding me? Maybe at a Evangelical Revival. First Energy is essentially sold out, save the cheap seats. You should know better than that- gameday ticket sales are only a small portion of an owners revenue. The big bucks come through TV revenue- to the tune of Directv shelling out something like $4 billion for the exclusive rights to Sunday Ticket, networks are probably even more than that, though I'm too lazy to look it up. Haslam probably makes more money in beer sales during a game than he would if the Tebow lovers flocked out to buy up the few thousand remaining tickets.

    Pretty much been conclusively proven Tebow isn't an NFL caliber quarterback- can you say that about Edwards or Gray? So why not give them a shot, if Campbell gets hurt?

    I'm not only talking about ticket sales. Everything is connected.

    Tebow has never fallen lower than top 15 in jersey sales in his entire NFL career, no matter where he plays or if he plays.

    Everyone is so caught up with the Christian aspect (which is overemphasized by the media, not Tebow), that you're failing to realize this could be a good step for the organization as a whole.

    If Campbell goes down, we're losing out no matter who is at the helm. Why not bring in the guy that will make the franchise more money, get them more national exposure, and get fans more excited in the team?

    A few seasons ago, Coastal Carolina University fired their coach; the only coach in the history of their football program, a guy beloved in the community who got them four Big South Championships in seven years. They brought in Joe Moglia, former CEO of TD Ameritrade and a veritable coaching rookie. Moglia had never been a head coach at the college level and was a head coach in the AFL only because he bought the entire team and gave himself the job. By essentially giving him full control of the team both monetarily and managerial, they've been able to reallocate their football funds toward making the campus larger by adding new buildings, new stadiums, more dorms and more parking. Because the school is now newer and better, more recruits want to come to Coastal. Because they are getting better recruits, their team is better. They are now ranked Top 3 in the FCS.

    Sometimes the best move for your team makes little to zero sense on the field.

    If Tebow brought in a modest 5% merchandise sales spike and 5% ticket sales spike, that would bring in massive amounts of money for the program.

    In a typical year, a team will make roughly $5 million off merchandise sales, with nearly half of that figure coming from the jerseys of their top two franchise players. Assuming a 5% spike, that would give us another $250,000 of money that Haslam will have to pump back into the franchise.

    In 2011 (the latest figures I could find), the Browns total attendance for the year was 526,874. Once again assuming a 5% spike, that figure would jump up 26,344 people, or about 3,300 per home game. At $60.00 per ticket, that would see an increased profit of $1,580,640.

    TV revenue sharing, concession sales, and advertising aside, that's a quick 1.5 mill just from having him on the roster.

    Obviously, there are many cons. Namely, he's an awful NFL QB. But so is Weeden and so is every other QB that will be available should Campbell go down. At least this awful QB would have a decent little return on him.

  • Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
    #43

    I don't disagree at all. I'd bring him in as well to be the backup. He's a better option than anything we have on the roster behind Weeden. No one wants to see Weeden playing QB for the Browns like ever again so why not should Campbell go down and any hope for the season would go down as well, have a guy like Tebow who is at least entertaining and we might win a game or two. Not to mention as TCPO says....it would be better for the Browns organization in terms of revenue to the team.

    Should Campbell get hurt, I'd rather watch Tebow do Tebow things (some good, most awful) than watching anything that Weeden has to offer.