My take on the Head Coach search
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I just hope it works out in the end... whether by careful planing and extensive search.... or just pure dumb luck.
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I'm getting this very powerful James Franklin, Johnny Manziel, Jordan Matthews vibe lately. I think it would be received quite positively on the national level, actually.
I'm getting this very powerful James Franklin, Johnny Manziel, Jordan Matthews vibe lately. I think it would be received quite positively on the national level, actually.
If it takes a football coach from Vanderbilt and a six-foot-nothing punk from Texas to turn this franchise around ... then I'm all for it.
At least it would be bold. Going down in flames beats whimpering to the finish line every year like you are in a Groundhog Day movie.
Zombo
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I'm getting this very powerful James Franklin, Johnny Manziel, Jordan Matthews vibe lately. I think it would be received quite positively on the national level, actually.
I'm getting this very powerful James Franklin, Johnny Manziel, Jordan Matthews vibe lately. I think it would be received quite positively on the national level, actually.
Yep. Take a chance, Then let 'em play THEIR way & see what happens. However, it does look as if Franklin may be headed to Penn State.
Mike
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I'm getting this very powerful James Franklin, Johnny Manziel, Jordan Matthews vibe lately. I think it would be received quite positively on the national level, actually.
Yep. Take a chance, Then let 'em play THEIR way & see what happens. However, it does look as if Franklin may be headed to Penn State.
Mike
Yep. Take a chance, Then let 'em play THEIR way & see what happens. However, it does look as if Franklin may be headed to Penn State.
Mike
That would THRILL me as a Penn State fan. I hope so.
As a Browns fan I am going to amp up my offseason drinking and google Browns videos from the 70's and 80's ... when we weren't great ... but we were fun ... and relevant.
Zombo
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@mike-h said:
Malzahn won't come to Cleveland. Too bad.
Good.
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@mike-h said:
People said that when Chip Kelly passed on the Browns too. Gus wrote the book on uptempo offense
If they hire Gus .......and he goes 10-6 and wins the division, then GREAT hire.
If they hire him, and they go 4-12...........see ya and Banner, and Lombardi
WHOEVER THEY HIRE NEEDS TO WIN 8 GAMES.....................
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
is anyone worried, given his prima donna attitude...that Manziel won't pull an Eli on us?
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Well would not worry about Manziel just yet. Need to worry about the coach. And getting one here!
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First - GREAT posts, Canton Mike, really OLD buddy, and Zombo. Seriously.
Those two posts should be sent to the three potato heads at the Browns fo.
Certified mail.
Second - what players want to come to a perpetual zoo in the Browns fo?
Or, what qualified coaches will even bother with an interview?
I wouldn't blame Manziel if he pulled an "Eli" - there' no Broadway here for
Johnny Broadway.
Besides, I get tired of announcers talking about how Barfsonhisbooger and Flacco are big
and tough to bring down and can stretch plays ....
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@mike-h said:
People said that when Chip Kelly passed on the Browns too. Gus wrote the book on uptempo offense
If they hire Gus .......and he goes 10-6 and wins the division, then GREAT hire.
If they hire him, and they go 4-12...........see ya and Banner, and Lombardi
WHOEVER THEY HIRE NEEDS TO WIN 8 GAMES.....................
If they hire Gus .......and he goes 10-6 and wins the division, then GREAT hire.
If they hire him, and they go 4-12...........see ya and Banner, and Lombardi
WHOEVER THEY HIRE NEEDS TO WIN 8 GAMES.....................
Yup, so when he doesn't, they can fire him and start the process all over again. MHO is Haslam should already have fired Banner and Lombardi for creating this PR mess.
I'm getting this very powerful James Franklin, Johnny Manziel, Jordan Matthews vibe lately. I think it would be received quite positively on the national level, actually.
Currently I have 3 ABMs Beer- it's anything but Miller, Coaches- anything but McDaniels, qbs anything but Manziel. .
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If they hire Gus .......and he goes 10-6 and wins the division, then GREAT hire.
If they hire him, and they go 4-12...........see ya and Banner, and Lombardi
WHOEVER THEY HIRE NEEDS TO WIN 8 GAMES.....................
Yup, so when he doesn't, they can fire him and start the process all over again. MHO is Haslam should already have fired Banner and Lombardi for creating this PR mess.
I'm getting this very powerful James Franklin, Johnny Manziel, Jordan Matthews vibe lately. I think it would be received quite positively on the national level, actually.
Currently I have 3 ABMs Beer- it's anything but Miller, Coaches- anything but McDaniels, qbs anything but Manziel. .
Currently I have 3 ABMs Beer- it's anything but Miller, Coaches- anything but McDaniels, qbs anything but Manziel. .
Anything but miller? What about highlife, the champagne of beer?!
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Anything but miller? What about highlife, the champagne of beer?!
isn't that michelob?
either way both are nasty.
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I see one of two scenarios, both of which are disgusting....
1) McDaniels has already agreed to accept the job & seeming unqualified candidates are being interviewed as a smoke screen to make the ultimate decision of hiring McDaniels look brilliant. This scenario is an insult to my intelligence.
2) McDaniels has said "NO" & these are "panic" interviews because viable candidates, after talking to Chud, Norv, Ray, current players, and/or others in the know, have told the Haslam group they are not interested. This scenario tells me the current FO didn't anticipate possible repercussions from the one year firing of a rookie HC.
IMHO, both scenarios came about due to deceit (Jimmys' pledge to us Fans of continuity), poor decision making (either making a lousy decision hiring Banner, Chud, or both), Banner hiring a totally unqualified Lombardi as GM, & Jimmy, to date, failing to hold Banner & Lombardi responsible for their part in this post season fiasco.
Note to Jimmy Haslam.....You, sir, are dealing with arguably the most passionate Fan base in the NFL. You came with an opportunity to right many wrongs & bring this proud franchise back to dominance. Instead, you now own a franchise mired in distrust, disdain, & lacking the credibility to move forward. Last year, you could sell a FO with vision & a plan. NOW, what can you sell?
I have been a faithful Browns' Fan since the mid 1950s & NEVER thought I would feel compelled to write something like this about the leadership of my beloved Browns.
Jimmy, the above statements are my observations & perceptions. Only you can prove me wrong & I pray that you do, but I guess the key words are, "We'll see".
Mike Flanagan...yes, I've put my real name to it.
Please excuse my signature...It should read, "Yes men are NEVER leaders!"
poor decision making (either making a lousy decision hiring Banner, Chud, or both), Banner hiring a totally unqualified Lombardi as GM, & Jimmy, to date, failing to hold Banner & Lombardi responsible for their part in this post season fiasco.
maybe the mistake was hiring chud in the first place and they found out that he wasn't the solution 'they' were looking for and cut the cord before it got any tighter around 'their' necks.
still i agree haslam needs to make lombardi and banner accountable and i hope they both are sitting on chairs with burning embers if they don't get this next year right with hirings, drafts, FA signings etc.
i agree if we don't see a .500 record next year there will be some real accounting to do.
i'm all about continuity too, unless you have the talent to win and you don't. then that falls on the coaches. bye bye.
on another subject: about manziel. i was listening to mike and mike in the background this morning and something one of them caught me and rings true. with johnny you're kinda getting the tebow show. if hoyer starts the year and we are losing, how long is it going to take for everyone to start the "WE WANT JOHNNY!!!" chant? i mean i like his fire and his ability BUT ya gotta realize he's one NFL hit from being on a stretcher.
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I'm getting this very powerful James Franklin, Johnny Manziel, Jordan Matthews vibe lately. I think it would be received quite positively on the national level, actually.
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Anything but miller? What about highlife, the champagne of beer?!
isn't that michelob?
either way both are nasty.
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@mike-h said:
Every QB is one hit from being on a stretcher. If that's the only concern you've got, then hop on the Johnny train.
He isn't "small" for his height, definitely built enough to survive.
6'0"-6'1" and 210lbs.
Hoyer is 6'2", 215lbs.
If you have an issue with his size and durability, you have to question Hoyers, who missed most of an NFL season already.
Yes, I was looking at this earlier. An extra inch/6lb isn't a huge amount of difference. It's not like Manziel is a twig like Bridgewater.
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@mike-h said:
Every QB is one hit from being on a stretcher. If that's the only concern you've got, then hop on the Johnny train.
He isn't "small" for his height, definitely built enough to survive.
6'0"-6'1" and 210lbs.
Hoyer is 6'2", 215lbs.
If you have an issue with his size and durability, you have to question Hoyers, who missed most of an NFL season already.
Valid point but Manziel is the type of guy who will take bigger risks, more likely causing injury to himself.
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@mike-h said:
Every QB is one hit from being on a stretcher. If that's the only concern you've got, then hop on the Johnny train.
He isn't "small" for his height, definitely built enough to survive.
6'0"-6'1" and 210lbs.
Hoyer is 6'2", 215lbs.
If you have an issue with his size and durability, you have to question Hoyers, who missed most of an NFL season already.
Valid point but Manziel is the type of guy who will take bigger risks, more likely causing injury to himself.
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