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jeffinwv

If Manziel is there how can you pass on him?We need QB and heres A Heisman winner with great stats and playmaking ability...What are you wainting for if you pass on him? and how bad does your team gotta be to get this guy your after?

Colts got Luck but they went 1-15 to get him.You wanna do that?Our awful season is behind us...get something out of it!

cdl15

@jeffinwv said:

If Manziel is there how can you pass on him?We need QB and heres A Heisman winner with great stats and playmaking ability...What are you wainting for if you pass on him? and how bad does your team gotta be to get this guy your after?

Colts got Luck but they went 1-15 to get him.You wanna do that?Our awful season is behind us...get something out of it!

And if they miss??? Colts were better than a 1-15 team too.

Flyin J

@cdl15 said:
And if they miss??? Colts were better than a 1-15 team too.

Then we swing again next year.

cdl15

XxDaBuckeyexX said:
Then we swing again next year.

Thats the problem. U can't do that. This FO is way to smart for that right?

Flyin J

The problem is that we keep missing.

Tim Couch Pulls Out

@jeffinwv said:

If Manziel is there how can you pass on him?We need QB and heres A Heisman winner with great stats and playmaking ability...What are you wainting for if you pass on him? and how bad does your team gotta be to get this guy your after?

Colts got Luck but they went 1-15 to get him.You wanna do that?Our awful season is behind us...get something out of it!

There's been only one Heisman Trophy winning QB to win a playoff game in the last 15 years.

His name is Timothy Tebow.

The Heisman means nothing.

miktoxic

@jeffinwv said:

If Manziel is there how can you pass on him?We need QB and heres A Heisman winner with great stats and playmaking ability...What are you wainting for if you pass on him? and how bad does your team gotta be to get this guy your after?

Colts got Luck but they went 1-15 to get him.You wanna do that?Our awful season is behind us...get something out of it!

you know why? because there might be a DE sitting there as well who would upgrade our pass rush 3-fold.

OR

there could be a game changing WR sitting there that would give us a serious WR upgrade so not every defensive backfield would be keying on gordon.

not everybody thinks the same. for every johnny manziel fan or bridgewater fan, there is a clowney and a watkins fan. hell there are people that think it'd be great to take a trade deal that comes across our desk to switch 2 spots so they can pick up one of these guys everybody is in love with and STILL get someone on our board plus another #1 pick for next year, cuz even with manziel or any of these other guys at QB we're still be lucky to go 8 and 8.

now if you were willing to bet and say if we got manziel we'd be an instant playoff team........i'd take that bet.

nickers

@miktoxic said:

you know why? because there might be a DE sitting there as well who would upgrade our pass rush 3-fold.

OR

there could be a game changing WR sitting there that would give us a serious WR upgrade so not every defensive backfield would be keying on gordon.

not everybody thinks the same. for every johnny manziel fan or bridgewater fan, there is a clowney and a watkins fan. hell there are people that think it'd be great to take a trade deal that comes across our desk to switch 2 spots so they can pick up one of these guys everybody is in love with and STILL get someone on our board plus another #1 pick for next year, cuz even with manziel or any of these other guys at QB we're still be lucky to go 8 and 8.

now if you were willing to bet and say if we got manziel we'd be an instant playoff team........i'd take that bet.

yup...upgrading our pass rush is gonna magically transform our anemic offense...you are daft.

Flyin J

I think our pass rush will be improved by Mingo's natural progression and all these guys playing together another year. An ILB with coverage skill and CB upgrade will improve the pass rush as well.

Flyin J

Unless we switch back to a 4-3....

nickers

XxDaBuckeyexX said:
I think our pass rush will be improved by Mingo's natural progression and all these guys playing together another year. An ILB with coverage skill and CB upgrade will improve the pass rush as well.

Sorry but,Mingo is a bust.

Flyin J

@nickers said:

Sorry but,Mingo is a bust.

You'll eat those words.

nickers

XxDaBuckeyexX said:
You'll eat those words.

no I wont...

Flyin J

@nickers said:
no I wont...

He hit the rookie wall, happens to a lot of guys. The guy will put on 15 Lbs in this off-season. How can you immediately call a 21 year old with that much athletic ability a bust? He'll figure it out, I guarantee it.

RoyceRolls

XxDaBuckeyexX said:
He hit the rookie wall, happens to a lot of guys. The guy will put on 15 Lbs in this off-season. How can you immediately call a 21 year old with that much athletic ability a bust? He'll figure it out, I guarantee it.

especially since he only played 55% of defensive snaps and recorded 5 sacks. 10+ sacks isn't out of the question for next year with some added bulk and more playing time.

Gips

Its not going to matter if we get manziel if this kneejerk regime brings in a piece of shit for a HC which is more likely than not..

nickers

XxDaBuckeyexX said:
He hit the rookie wall, happens to a lot of guys. The guy will put on 15 Lbs in this off-season. How can you immediately call a 21 year old with that much athletic ability a bust? He'll figure it out, I guarantee it.

yeah,yeah..Like Mack Mitchell and Kam Wimbley before him...B-U-S-T!!... that spell's BUST!

miktoxic

wow, nickers has his nickers all in a bunch recently.

geez. take a fuckin chill pill or listen to some yanni or kenny g.

nickers

@miktoxic said:

wow, nickers has his nickers all in a bunch recently.

geez. take a fuckin chill pill or listen to some yanni or kenny g.

Fuck that,Id rather listen to Planet X or Dreamtheater

CLEinCHI

Why anyone is even considering wanting the Browns to draft anyone but a QB in the top 5 is beyond me... Johnny Football is worth the risk if he can become our franchise QB... Until we solve the QB issue nothing else really matters... It is fun to look at depth charts of our front 7 and red zone mismatches of sammy watkins josh gordon and jordon cameron...but this is all mute if we do not have a championship level quarterback.

Lets take a look at this years First Team All Pro Team

QB - Peyton Manning***

RB - LeSean McCoy, Jamaal Charles

FB- Mike Tolbert

TE- Jimmy Graham

WR- Calvin Johnson, Josh Gordon

T- Joe Thomas, Jason Peters

G- Louis Vasquez*, Evan Mathis

C- Ryan Kalil

DE- JJ Watt, Robert Quinn

DT- Gerald Mccoy, Ndamukong Suh

OLB- Robert Mathis, Lavonte David

ILB- Luke Kuechly, NaVorro Bowman*

CB- Richard Sherman*, Patrick Peterson

S Earl Thomas*, Eric Berry

PK - Justin Tucker

P- Johnny Hekker

KR- Cordarrelle Patterson

Out of the 27 players recognized only Peyton Manning has a super bowl ring...

and the only other offensive player still in the playoffs is a guard who protects...Peyton Manning.

On defense you have players who will represent the NFC in the superbowl,but the point is this...

Since 1999 the Browns have had the opportunity to draft in the Top 10 11 times , only once have the Browns drafted a QB in that time...Tim Couch (who is arguably THE BEST QB the Browns have had to date) The other 10 have been picks spent on addressing "other needs"

Case closed,

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