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So is it time for concern?

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  • LCDawgFan13L LCDawgFan13

    I have read over and over about how the Browns are stupid and how they are making a terrible mistake and how they don't have a clue as to what they are doing. I don't see it that way. While Lombardi can't leave fast enough for me, they way this is panning out seems to be exactly what Jimmy sad it would be. He clearly stated that it could take a long time to make a hire and that he knew the fans would not be too happy. And I know that firing Chud was not the popular choice. But I commend the FO for making a decision and standing by it. Yes, I do hope they make the right choice, but that is clearly what they are trying to do! Did you want them to hire the first person they talked to? I sure as hell didn't.

    As pointed out previously, Mora Jr. Only got 1 year in Seattle. That turned out alright! And how many people were in support of Tomlin getting the job in shitsburg? Not many. Again, that didn't turn out bad (well...for them at least). I really don't care who their first choice was, or how many people they interview. I just don't want them to make a quick decision like last year just because it is perceived by the fans that we have to have a coach immediately. Jimmy and Joe, take your time and get it right. We, the fans, will have your back. Just give this new team a shot to succeed. If you blow it up again this time next year, all bets are off!

    @lcdawgfan13 said:

    I have read over and over about how the Browns are stupid and how they are making a terrible mistake and how they don't have a clue as to what they are doing. I don't see it that way. While Lombardi can't leave fast enough for me, they way this is panning out seems to be exactly what Jimmy sad it would be. He clearly stated that it could take a long time to make a hire and that he knew the fans would not be too happy. And I know that firing Chud was not the popular choice. But I commend the FO for making a decision and standing by it. Yes, I do hope they make the right choice, but that is clearly what they are trying to do! Did you want them to hire the first person they talked to? I sure as hell didn't.

    As pointed out previously, Mora Jr. Only got 1 year in Seattle. That turned out alright! And how many people were in support of Tomlin getting the job in shitsburg? Not many. Again, that didn't turn out bad (well...for them at least). I really don't care who their first choice was, or how many people they interview. I just don't want them to make a quick decision like last year just because it is perceived by the fans that we have to have a coach immediately. Jimmy and Joe, take your time and get it right. We, the fans, will have your back. Just give this new team a shot to succeed. If you blow it up again this time next year, all bets are off!

    You really believe they planned on NOT landing McDaniels or Gase? I think that is between overly optimistic and naive. Jimmy realizes the fans are onto that and that is why he issued his very thinly veiled damage control apology to the fans. If you think at this point they are not settling for people who were not on their shortlist you are drinking the koolaid for sure.

  • Jcamm...

    I am not saying that Mcdoofus and Gase were not on their short list. What I am saying is that they were obviously not the right guy for the job. If they flip-flop on what they want to do in regard to taking interviews, what kind of decision making are they really capable of. We've already seen that Josh McDaniels is not exactly a fantastic head coach prospect. And Gase is simply along for the ride as long as Manning can keep carrying him. Not many people on here really seemed to want either of them anyway. So why now are we bitching about them backing out? I personally think the biggest mistake made in all this was not putting Lovie on the short list. I do think their original thoughts were ruined already, but I would now rather see them take their time and explore all possibilities and hopefully make the right choice! Would you rather them make a kneejerk decision?

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  • I agree man. The Sky is Falling, Chicken Little crowd is getting old.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
    jcam222J D BoneD hoortaH 3 Replies

  • Oh I know. Candidates are always taking themselves out of consideration for head coaching jobs in the nfl. It's perfectly normal. Happens all the time to every team, right? There's no reason to be concerned.

    :neutral_face:

  • chud was a dud.

    but to have no backup plan from point A to point B is just bad management/personnel department decision making.

    so if quinn says no, THEN they'll be a cause for concern? or when they hire BGSU or Toledo HC and say that was the guy they wanted all along?

  • ballpeenB ballpeen

    I agree man. The Sky is Falling, Chicken Little crowd is getting old.

    @ballpeen said:

    I agree man. The Sky is Falling, Chicken Little crowd is getting old.

    I do not think that our voicing our displeasure on a search that has obviously not gone as planned is "sky is falling" . To assume that all of the people on the short list were turned down by our FO is naive. We may end up with the greatest head coach of all time and I damn sure hope that is what happens. Having said that equally as frustrating as chicken little is people who's heads are buried in the sand with undue optimism.

  • maybe they can start looking at coaches from the CFL?

  • ballpeenB ballpeen

    I agree man. The Sky is Falling, Chicken Little crowd is getting old.

    @ballpeen said:

    I agree man. The Sky is Falling, Chicken Little crowd is getting old.

    Sounds like you are happy with where we are right now? wow

  • D BoneD D Bone

    @ballpeen said:

    I agree man. The Sky is Falling, Chicken Little crowd is getting old.

    Sounds like you are happy with where we are right now? wow

    @d-bone said:

    Sounds like you are happy with where we are right now? wow

    nah. ballpeen is a good egg, but he's got personal ties with haslam on the tennessee home front, so i'm guessing he's sticking with the guy until either he or we are proven wrong. i'd do the same for a brother.

    but from the outside looking in it's not a pretty sight right now.

    maybe they won't dazzle us with the HC/staff pick but hey there's always the draft!

    i wonder if any team in the history of the NFL has drafted players without a HC being named?

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  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    @d-bone said:

    Sounds like you are happy with where we are right now? wow

    nah. ballpeen is a good egg, but he's got personal ties with haslam on the tennessee home front, so i'm guessing he's sticking with the guy until either he or we are proven wrong. i'd do the same for a brother.

    but from the outside looking in it's not a pretty sight right now.

    maybe they won't dazzle us with the HC/staff pick but hey there's always the draft!

    i wonder if any team in the history of the NFL has drafted players without a HC being named?

    @miktoxic said:

    nah. ballpeen is a good egg, but he's got personal ties with haslam on the tennessee home front, so i'm guessing he's sticking with the guy until either he or we are proven wrong. i'd do the same for a brother.

    but from the outside looking in it's not a pretty sight right now.

    maybe they won't dazzle us with the HC/staff pick but hey there's always the draft!

    i wonder if any team in the history of the NFL has drafted players without a HC being named?

    Maybe he can talk some sense into Jimmy............The draft has me terrified 😮 Hopefully bp is right, and the next coach will be worth the wait.

  • ballpeenB ballpeen

    I agree man. The Sky is Falling, Chicken Little crowd is getting old.

    @ballpeen said:

    I agree man. The Sky is Falling, Chicken Little crowd is getting old.

    See below ' Peen.

    @pumpkin-eater said:

    Oh I know. Candidates are always taking themselves out of consideration for head coaching jobs in the nfl. It's perfectly normal. Happens all the time to every team, right? There's no reason to be concerned.

    Exactly- the analogy is selling a house- if you show it to X number of qualified potential buyers- and they all walk away saying "not interested", there's obviously something wrong with the house. That's what I'm saying 'Peen, there's something seriously amiss in Brownstown.

    I'm not in "sky is falling mode" - yet. But should Quinn turn them down, Banner is going to have to pull a freaking miracle out of his ass to find anyone better or more qualified than Chud was. Not to mention replacing the OC & DC with candidates more qualified than Norv and Horton. At that point, might as well go right down the line, call up every OC and DC in the NFL who hasn't been recently hired, ask them if they're interested, put the names in a hat, pull one out and say "Congratulations!! You've just won the HC job with the Cleveland Clowns, managed by the Three Stooges." Or, they could hold a press conference and say "we seriously f**ked up" and re-hire Chud- assuming he'd want to come back.

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  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    @d-bone said:

    Sounds like you are happy with where we are right now? wow

    nah. ballpeen is a good egg, but he's got personal ties with haslam on the tennessee home front, so i'm guessing he's sticking with the guy until either he or we are proven wrong. i'd do the same for a brother.

    but from the outside looking in it's not a pretty sight right now.

    maybe they won't dazzle us with the HC/staff pick but hey there's always the draft!

    i wonder if any team in the history of the NFL has drafted players without a HC being named?

    @miktoxic said:

    nah. ballpeen is a good egg, but he's got personal ties with haslam on the tennessee home front, so i'm guessing he's sticking with the guy until either he or we are proven wrong. i'd do the same for a brother.

    but from the outside looking in it's not a pretty sight right now.

    maybe they won't dazzle us with the HC/staff pick but hey there's always the draft!

    i wonder if any team in the history of the NFL has drafted players without a HC being named?

    I just don't think that Russ feels the need to tear his hair out over this. Chud was probably not a good hire...but then the perception is that he wasn't really given a chance to succeed with a lot of the circumstances that happened with this team. But, on the other hand, he...and his underlings did blow a lot of chances for victory.

    Peen also is not in panic mode over this coach hiring situation. And I agree with him. We will get a guy....and who knows, even if that guy is the Browns 4th/5th/6th choice he may turn out to be the best choice.

    (I know....you can point to the track record and say that that hasn't happened so far with this team)

  • With as little hair as i have and as short as I cut it, it would be impossible to pull it out.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
  • ballpeenB ballpeen

    With as little hair as i have and as short as I cut it, it would be impossible to pull it out.

    @ballpeen said:

    With as little hair as i have and as short as I cut it, it would be impossible to pull it out.

    I was referring to your short hairs 😳

  • Yeah, it's hard to sell the "We're taking our time to find the right guy" argument once it starts appearing you are just scouring franchise payrolls for anyone who has seen a football and will answer their phones. ONCE AGAIN, the Browns sat back and watched as all of the acceptable prospects passed them by (coaches this time, but they do it with draft pick players, free agents, etc.), and now they are scrambling to fill the spot with some desperation guy. *cough* WEEDEN *cough*

    At this point, I'll be happy to see the Browns get Quinn or Pettine. If they can't land either of those two guys now, my suggestion is to look for a college coach with a demonstrated ability for building a team from the dirt up (Cutcliffe, etc.).

  • If a report concerning the Brown's search contains "it has been reported", "according to sources", "speculation is", or "as reported by Mary Kay", just ignore it. It's the same old crap you see day after day. Last night was different, and the results of that meeting haven't been released yet.

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