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  • Rules violations, resignation as a result of those allegations, and vacation of victories/a season don't seem all that classy to me.

    I'm not saying Tressel is a bad coach. I'm saying that there were some problems in the past that may be red flags for the possibility of future issues. The guy DID win. No arguing that. The way in which he won, at least one year, was not inside the scope of the rules and regulations.

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  • S Spectralcow

    Rules violations, resignation as a result of those allegations, and vacation of victories/a season don't seem all that classy to me.

    I'm not saying Tressel is a bad coach. I'm saying that there were some problems in the past that may be red flags for the possibility of future issues. The guy DID win. No arguing that. The way in which he won, at least one year, was not inside the scope of the rules and regulations.

    @spectralcow said:

    Rules violations, resignation as a result of those allegations, and vacation of victories/a season don't seem all that classy to me.

    I'm not saying Tressel is a bad coach. I'm saying that there were some problems in the past that may be red flags for the possibility of future issues. The guy DID win. No arguing that. The way in which he won, at least one year, was not inside the scope of the rules and regulations.

    He used players that he wasn't supposed to because they traded autographs for tattoos.

    Hardly that big of a deal. He always looked out for his players best interests.

  • S Spectralcow

    Rules violations, resignation as a result of those allegations, and vacation of victories/a season don't seem all that classy to me.

    I'm not saying Tressel is a bad coach. I'm saying that there were some problems in the past that may be red flags for the possibility of future issues. The guy DID win. No arguing that. The way in which he won, at least one year, was not inside the scope of the rules and regulations.

    @spectralcow said:

    Rules violations, resignation as a result of those allegations, and vacation of victories/a season don't seem all that classy to me.

    I'm not saying Tressel is a bad coach. I'm saying that there were some problems in the past that may be red flags for the possibility of future issues. The guy DID win. No arguing that. The way in which he won, at least one year, was not inside the scope of the rules and regulations.

    Chip Kelly? Pete Carroll? there doing pretty good.......

    1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • W Where's Vardell

    Winner at every level in the state...only thing left for him to do for Ohio is win it a Super Bowl. Would bring class and respect for our beloved Browns that they haven't had since Marty. In coaching professional sports your are measured on your record and your accomplishments...hard to find anyone out there to match his.. Jim Tressel is a winner..and God knows we need one!

    @where-s-vardell said:

    Winner at every level in the state...only thing left for him to do for Ohio is win it a Super Bowl. Would bring class and respect for our beloved Browns that they haven't had since Marty. In coaching professional sports your are measured on your record and your accomplishments...hard to find anyone out there to match his.. Jim Tressel is a winner..and God knows we need one!

    I thought this was about Del Rio. How did it turn into Tressel?

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  • C CLEVELandMILIDH

    @spectralcow said:

    Rules violations, resignation as a result of those allegations, and vacation of victories/a season don't seem all that classy to me.

    I'm not saying Tressel is a bad coach. I'm saying that there were some problems in the past that may be red flags for the possibility of future issues. The guy DID win. No arguing that. The way in which he won, at least one year, was not inside the scope of the rules and regulations.

    Chip Kelly? Pete Carroll? there doing pretty good.......

    @clevelandmilidh said:

    Chip Kelly? Pete Carroll? there doing pretty good.......

    Both of those guys jumped ship from there schools which had much worse violations than Tressel had. They would have been facing the same or worse NCAA sanctions if they had stuck around.

  • Meh, I don't know that costing the innocent players of the 2010 team their season was necessarily in their best interests.

    Maybe you don't think it was a big deal, maybe I don't think it was a big deal, but SOMEONE who mattered thought it was a big enough deal that it cost the team and resulted in his resignation. What's "a big deal" is probably better left to those whose opinions matter (to the sport, not to me).

    This argument is raised a lot by people after they get caught. It's not a big deal to video tape the other team, to use performance enhancers, to use ineligible players, to use a corked bat, etc. My question is, if it wasn't a big deal, why risk wins, a season, a record, a career by doing it? It's like cheating on your wife and, after you're caught, defending it with "She meant nothing to me!" Great, so something that is insignificant to you meant more to you than our relationship.

    Lol, this conversation has taken a strange turn. Now Kelly and Carroll are involved? What's the point here? That it IS okay to violate the rules? I already said (in my very first post on Tressell, in fact) that the Browns would probably win with him as coach. So,... what is it that you're arguing? I'm arguing that whether or not you win, I'm not that keen on trying to get away with breaking the rules.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @where-s-vardell said:

    Winner at every level in the state...only thing left for him to do for Ohio is win it a Super Bowl. Would bring class and respect for our beloved Browns that they haven't had since Marty. In coaching professional sports your are measured on your record and your accomplishments...hard to find anyone out there to match his.. Jim Tressel is a winner..and God knows we need one!

    I thought this was about Del Rio. How did it turn into Tressel?

    @the-gipper said:

    I thought this was about Del Rio. How did it turn into Tressel?

  • Lol, pretty sure Where's Vardell? introduced the Tressel discussion.

  • Didn't mean to change the subject..wait a minute..yes I did! Have to quit talking about "Proven Losers" and start talking about "Proven Winners"! Maybe if we as fans (Browns fans are the best) start talking about winning these people calling the shots might start taking their jobs a bit more serious. One can only hope.

    The GipperT 1 Reply

  • I'd say we're not getting Del Rio or Tressel, but the last time I made a claim like that it was "chud won't be fired after 1 year"

  • Hmmm.... you should use that anti-predictive power for "good". Do your magic, man!

  • Lol, this conversation has taken a strange turn. Now Kelly and Carroll are involved? What's the point here? That it IS okay to violate the rules? I already said (in my very first post on Tressell, in fact) that the Browns would probably win with him as coach. So,... what is it that you're arguing? I'm arguing that whether or not you win, I'm not that keen on trying to get away with breaking the rules

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    If you ain't cheating you aint trying, ask Bill Bellicheck.....everybody does it on one level or another, players juicing, Mike Tomlin trying to trip kick returners, Jim Harbaugh working a deal with his brother to get Anquan Boldin for a 5th round pick, any competitive advantage you can get....players, coaches, GM's they all do it.

    1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
  • W Where's Vardell

    Didn't mean to change the subject..wait a minute..yes I did! Have to quit talking about "Proven Losers" and start talking about "Proven Winners"! Maybe if we as fans (Browns fans are the best) start talking about winning these people calling the shots might start taking their jobs a bit more serious. One can only hope.

    @where-s-vardell said:

    Didn't mean to change the subject..wait a minute..yes I did! Have to quit talking about "Proven Losers" and start talking about "Proven Winners"! Maybe if we as fans (Browns fans are the best) start talking about winning these people calling the shots might start taking their jobs a bit more serious. One can only hope.

    Well, when it comes to proven winners and losers.....a guy that is a proven winner in college can turn into a proven loser in the NFL.

    There are a litany of names out there to prove it.

    Occasionally a good college coach also does well in the pros.

  • You are right. Few college coaches make it and many fail. Just think Tressel is by far the best head coach for us with who is available. These other guys are coordinators with no head coaching experience. I know we tried Butch Davis who was a head coach and it did not work out. I just think Tressel should at least be in the conversation. Tressel is a good fit for us and we sure could use a players coach. I suspect a lot of our guys are a little upset over losing the whole coaching staff.

  • W Where's Vardell

    You are right. Few college coaches make it and many fail. Just think Tressel is by far the best head coach for us with who is available. These other guys are coordinators with no head coaching experience. I know we tried Butch Davis who was a head coach and it did not work out. I just think Tressel should at least be in the conversation. Tressel is a good fit for us and we sure could use a players coach. I suspect a lot of our guys are a little upset over losing the whole coaching staff.

    @where-s-vardell said:

    You are right. Few college coaches make it and many fail. Just think Tressel is by far the best head coach for us with who is available. These other guys are coordinators with no head coaching experience. I know we tried Butch Davis who was a head coach and it did not work out. I just think Tressel should at least be in the conversation. Tressel is a good fit for us and we sure could use a players coach. I suspect a lot of our guys are a little upset over losing the whole coaching staff.

    They should be more upset they lost 12 games.

    I like Tressel, but there must be a reason he hasn't been seriously considered for any NFL coaching position.

    Regardless, sounds like we're getting Pettine. If so hopefully he's one of Billick's good apples and wins many games for many years with us.

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