Is it just me.....?
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Nope, you're not imagining it. The National media in general has turned into a bunch of front running ass-kisser\ superstar pole smokers- with ESPN leading the charge. Need an example? The Lakers are dead last in the NBA west, with zero chance of making the playoffs., and we're still hearing about Kobe's rehab on a regular basis. there's around eight NBA teams with better records you don't hear jack about.
When Derek Jeeter announced he was retiring, ESPN's response sounded like at the end of the season, he was going to stand on second base, raise his hands, and ascend directly into Heaven.
When ESPN has a piece of something like the NFL, They kill you with coverage. They had NASCAR for many years and had hours of coverage every
week, along with the races. When they got outbid by Fox, and NBC, you didn't hear a word about it. They put themselves on Mount Rushmore, and they determine what the public wants, not by how popular a sport is, but by how big a piece of that sport they have. I guess it's good business on their part, and since they really don't have anything close to them in regards to sports coverage, we'll just have to put up with them.......can't really stand the people on Fox Sports network, and NBC isn't much better. CBS really doesn't have much yet.
When ESPN has a piece of something like the NFL, They kill you with coverage. They had NASCAR for many years and had hours of coverage every
week, along with the races. When they got outbid by Fox, and NBC, you didn't hear a word about it. They put themselves on Mount Rushmore, and they determine what the public wants, not by how popular a sport is, but by how big a piece of that sport they have. I guess it's good business on their part, and since they really don't have anything close to them in regards to sports coverage, we'll just have to put up with them.......can't really stand the people on Fox Sports network, and NBC isn't much better. CBS really doesn't have much yet.
Most insightful quote ever on here. Cowboys, Lakers, Heat, Knicks - handful of other franchises as well.
In 2008 Steelers (evenutal Super Bowl Champs) played Cowboys - ALL the pre game hype and even post game highlights were on the Cowboys despite them LOSING.
The Cavaliers were screwed with the lack of coverage during the LeBron James years. Betcha things would be different if they covered them the way James is covered now.
I used to love Mike and Mike in the Morning. This takes a lot for me to say, but I hate it now.
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Most media are a bunch of hacks anyways. The official Browns website and this board are my primary reads. If I read anything it ain't group think BR type articles. They want 'hits' and will talk BS to get 'em. The Plain Dealer, Dawgs by Nature and Dog Pound Daily have decent articles. Even ClevelandBrowns.com has to much speculation to suit me. I'll do the fuckin' speculatin'...give me the fuckin' facts!!!
/End rant
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There is truth to a lot of the comments but the biggest truth is until we put a good product on the field we won't get a lot of limelight. If the Browns come out of the gate this year and go 5 - 0 you can bet your ass the talking will start. We have to earn it.
There is truth to a lot of the comments but the biggest truth is until we put a good product on the field we won't get a lot of limelight. If the Browns come out of the gate this year and go 5 - 0 you can bet your ass the talking will start. We have to earn it.
Well, in Cleveland we won't get limelight until you put out a good product....but not the case for say, the Knicks. Everybody is yabbering all night and all day about a crappy Knicks team that was never going to make the playoffs...because they suck. But that is all some ESPN...and other national media types can talk about.
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When ESPN has a piece of something like the NFL, They kill you with coverage. They had NASCAR for many years and had hours of coverage every
week, along with the races. When they got outbid by Fox, and NBC, you didn't hear a word about it. They put themselves on Mount Rushmore, and they determine what the public wants, not by how popular a sport is, but by how big a piece of that sport they have. I guess it's good business on their part, and since they really don't have anything close to them in regards to sports coverage, we'll just have to put up with them.......can't really stand the people on Fox Sports network, and NBC isn't much better. CBS really doesn't have much yet.
Most insightful quote ever on here. Cowboys, Lakers, Heat, Knicks - handful of other franchises as well.
In 2008 Steelers (evenutal Super Bowl Champs) played Cowboys - ALL the pre game hype and even post game highlights were on the Cowboys despite them LOSING.
The Cavaliers were screwed with the lack of coverage during the LeBron James years. Betcha things would be different if they covered them the way James is covered now.
I used to love Mike and Mike in the Morning. This takes a lot for me to say, but I hate it now.
Most insightful quote ever on here. Cowboys, Lakers, Heat, Knicks - handful of other franchises as well.
In 2008 Steelers (evenutal Super Bowl Champs) played Cowboys - ALL the pre game hype and even post game highlights were on the Cowboys despite them LOSING.
The Cavaliers were screwed with the lack of coverage during the LeBron James years. Betcha things would be different if they covered them the way James is covered now.
I used to love Mike and Mike in the Morning. This takes a lot for me to say, but I hate it now.
As I said before, with a ton of frontrunner bias. Haven't heard much about the Celtics now that they're a lottery team. Suddenly Indy's getting run- because they're winning.
All the RG III stuff ? What happened there? . This is one of the reasons I don't want Manziel on the Browns- the ESPN coverage of JF is going to be sickening.
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ESPN opened with a 8 minute segment on Jeters last home opener last night at 6 on Sportscenter.
How does Jeter supersede the biggest basketball game of the year?
They would have changed things up. say, if Syracuse was playing in the NCAA basketball championship
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People who make a whole lot of money have spent a whole lot of time determing what the viewer wants to see. Derek Jeter and the Yankees cater to tens of millions of Americans good or bad. You can get mad at ESPN all you want but this NCAA final wasn't really 'sexy'. Two low seed teams, one with a moderate fan base in UConn. It's the same reason Tebow and Favre get coverage, might make one person mad but two people are glued to the television.
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People who make a whole lot of money have spent a whole lot of time determing what the viewer wants to see. Derek Jeter and the Yankees cater to tens of millions of Americans good or bad. You can get mad at ESPN all you want but this NCAA final wasn't really 'sexy'. Two low seed teams, one with a moderate fan base in UConn. It's the same reason Tebow and Favre get coverage, might make one person mad but two people are glued to the television.
dont defend ESPN. I dont care what they perceive as sexy. Whats the most important story? A national championship game, or a meaningless Jeter story?People who make a whole lot of money have spent a whole lot of time determing what the viewer wants to see. Derek Jeter and the Yankees cater to tens of millions of Americans good or bad. You can get mad at ESPN all you want but this NCAA final wasn't really 'sexy'. Two low seed teams, one with a moderate fan base in UConn. It's the same reason Tebow and Favre get coverage, might make one person mad but two people are glued to the television.
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dont defend ESPN. I dont care what they perceive as sexy. Whats the most important story? A national championship game, or a meaningless Jeter story?People who make a whole lot of money have spent a whole lot of time determing what the viewer wants to see. Derek Jeter and the Yankees cater to tens of millions of Americans good or bad. You can get mad at ESPN all you want but this NCAA final wasn't really 'sexy'. Two low seed teams, one with a moderate fan base in UConn. It's the same reason Tebow and Favre get coverage, might make one person mad but two people are glued to the television.
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
dont defend ESPN. I dont care what they perceive as sexy. Whats the most important story? A national championship game, or a meaningless Jeter story?
I think they spent that time on Jeter because, quite frankly many people don't care about college basketball and saw this matchup as boring. And, of course he is a Yankee, a New York based player and an icon there so you are going to get them to pander to his story.
You can't blame Jeter per se. He just goes out and plays. Give him his due. At some point in time I thought he was just a creation of the media....overhyped because he was the Yankees shortstop......but the guy does have over 3300 hits, like 8th all time.
No amount of hype can get you that kind of accomplishment. I have begrudgingly come around to the fact that this guy is the real deal.
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XxDaBuckeyexX said:
dont defend ESPN. I dont care what they perceive as sexy. Whats the most important story? A national championship game, or a meaningless Jeter story?
I think they spent that time on Jeter because, quite frankly many people don't care about college basketball and saw this matchup as boring. And, of course he is a Yankee, a New York based player and an icon there so you are going to get them to pander to his story.
You can't blame Jeter per se. He just goes out and plays. Give him his due. At some point in time I thought he was just a creation of the media....overhyped because he was the Yankees shortstop......but the guy does have over 3300 hits, like 8th all time.
No amount of hype can get you that kind of accomplishment. I have begrudgingly come around to the fact that this guy is the real deal.
Not saying Jeter isnt great. Not saying he doesnt deserve a slot. But slotting his home opener ahead of a championship game in a popular sport? No.I think they spent that time on Jeter because, quite frankly many people don't care about college basketball and saw this matchup as boring. And, of course he is a Yankee, a New York based player and an icon there so you are going to get them to pander to his story.
You can't blame Jeter per se. He just goes out and plays. Give him his due. At some point in time I thought he was just a creation of the media....overhyped because he was the Yankees shortstop......but the guy does have over 3300 hits, like 8th all time.
No amount of hype can get you that kind of accomplishment. I have begrudgingly come around to the fact that this guy is the real deal.
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dont defend ESPN. I dont care what they perceive as sexy. Whats the most important story? A national championship game, or a meaningless Jeter story?People who make a whole lot of money have spent a whole lot of time determing what the viewer wants to see. Derek Jeter and the Yankees cater to tens of millions of Americans good or bad. You can get mad at ESPN all you want but this NCAA final wasn't really 'sexy'. Two low seed teams, one with a moderate fan base in UConn. It's the same reason Tebow and Favre get coverage, might make one person mad but two people are glued to the television.
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
dont defend ESPN. I dont care what they perceive as sexy. Whats the most important story? A national championship game, or a meaningless Jeter story?
I'm not defending ESPN and I don't disagree. My fiance is in media and I'm telling you the blunt truth as she deals with this every day. It's all about ratings and viewership, and Derek Jeter is going to garner more views than this years title game. If it was Duke vs Florida, it might be different. If you were in ESPN's shoes you'd be doing the same thing, it's just how that stuff goes.
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media is all about money. and the big markets bring in (or are supposed to) the most money. so if there are 8.4 million people in NYC and less than 1 in cleveland............
big money markets LA DALLAS NY BOSTON MIAMI.
the only thing that could have out-trumped jeter's last home day opener was MAYBE to have a pitcher pitching a perfect game and it still would have come in 2nd or 3rd on their priority list especially if the team was in milwaukee or cleveland. and that's not a diss. it's just the way it is.
to me it's sickening. i know jeter is the next joe dimaggio in yankee fan's eyes...............it will be nice to see him go as he's the last of the 'core 4'.
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I havent posted here in a while but I dont think the media hates cleveland. In relative terms to other teams we really have nothing exciting to post- yet.
Think of when we had lebron In cleveland, didnt we have a 3 ring circus with espn in the center of it (magazine cover comes to mind).
In fact the media loves an underdog and I remember year after year many analysts pciking cleveland to be most improved team in the afcn. We havent earned shit. When we do, it will come.
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XxDaBuckeyexX said:
dont defend ESPN. I dont care what they perceive as sexy. Whats the most important story? A national championship game, or a meaningless Jeter story?
I'm not defending ESPN and I don't disagree. My fiance is in media and I'm telling you the blunt truth as she deals with this every day. It's all about ratings and viewership, and Derek Jeter is going to garner more views than this years title game. If it was Duke vs Florida, it might be different. If you were in ESPN's shoes you'd be doing the same thing, it's just how that stuff goes.
I'm not defending ESPN and I don't disagree. My fiance is in media and I'm telling you the blunt truth as she deals with this every day. It's all about ratings and viewership, and Derek Jeter is going to garner more views than this years title game. If it was Duke vs Florida, it might be different. If you were in ESPN's shoes you'd be doing the same thing, it's just how that stuff goes.
If that's a statement on the general intelligence level of fans across the country, it's pretty sad.
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I'm not defending ESPN and I don't disagree. My fiance is in media and I'm telling you the blunt truth as she deals with this every day. It's all about ratings and viewership, and Derek Jeter is going to garner more views than this years title game. If it was Duke vs Florida, it might be different. If you were in ESPN's shoes you'd be doing the same thing, it's just how that stuff goes.
If that's a statement on the general intelligence level of fans across the country, it's pretty sad.
If that's a statement on the general intelligence level of fans across the country, it's pretty sad.
I don't think it is a statement about the intelligence of the fans, it is a statement about the mindset of the TV networks......nothing matters but ratings and money.
Now, the fact that we have the likes of Honey BooBoo, Duck Dynasty, Swamp People etc. etc.....all these ridiculous shows about ignorant rednecks (or guys that want to come off as ignorant rednecks).....that is what is such a poor statement on the intelligence level of TV viewers.
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well there are intelligent fans (irrelevant here) the topic of fan intelligence (aka those who would probably appreciate game coverage over a Jeter story) and then there are "casual fans" aka sheep aka the majority aka the target market the commercials are geared toward.
this isnt some heavy moral dilemma.....it's about paying bills in the real world. furthermore, it's their show and they owe you nothing.
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media is all about money. and the big markets bring in (or are supposed to) the most money. so if there are 8.4 million people in NYC and less than 1 in cleveland............
big money markets LA DALLAS NY BOSTON MIAMI.
the only thing that could have out-trumped jeter's last home day opener was MAYBE to have a pitcher pitching a perfect game and it still would have come in 2nd or 3rd on their priority list especially if the team was in milwaukee or cleveland. and that's not a diss. it's just the way it is.
to me it's sickening. i know jeter is the next joe dimaggio in yankee fan's eyes...............it will be nice to see him go as he's the last of the 'core 4'.
media is all about money. and the big markets bring in (or are supposed to) the most money. so if there are 8.4 million people in NYC and less than 1 in cleveland............
big money markets LA DALLAS NY BOSTON MIAMI.
the only thing that could have out-trumped jeter's last home day opener was MAYBE to have a pitcher pitching a perfect game and it still would have come in 2nd or 3rd on their priority list especially if the team was in milwaukee or cleveland. and that's not a diss. it's just the way it is.
to me it's sickening. i know jeter is the next joe dimaggio in yankee fan's eyes...............it will be nice to see him go as he's the last of the 'core 4'.
Add Houston, Atlanta, Chicago to that.
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I'm not defending ESPN and I don't disagree. My fiance is in media and I'm telling you the blunt truth as she deals with this every day. It's all about ratings and viewership, and Derek Jeter is going to garner more views than this years title game. If it was Duke vs Florida, it might be different. If you were in ESPN's shoes you'd be doing the same thing, it's just how that stuff goes.
If that's a statement on the general intelligence level of fans across the country, it's pretty sad.
If that's a statement on the general intelligence level of fans across the country, it's pretty sad.
It is, but the same logic is the reason the Kardashians are popular and local news is either about someone being shot or a puppy adoption. It's all about pandering to the lowest common denominator.
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