Connor Shaw
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Shaw was not my favorite qb at south cackalacka until Spurrier got him to stop that stupid heads first shit and consider throwing the ball, as an option, lol!
To Shaw's credit, he figured that out.
Now, as someone who could give a shiny rat's ass about Cleveland, you got an interesting ufa.
Like many here have said, we'll see.
Personally, i think you should have traded up for Bortles (kidding), but Shaw is better than Mettenberger or Murray, so you got a good deal.
Movie references to Tropic Thunder and South Park were appreciated.
Never go full Retard and consider that Satan as your qb would be on tv kissing Saddam
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I'll weigh-in with an unbiased opinion (seriously?).
Born and raised in SC, graduated from USC, been living in TX for a while (grad school, etc.) and I'm a long-time Browns fan (very long story).
We LOVE Shaw - no kidding, right? He's a team-first guy, never ever will have off-field issues, and he's a coach's son who's spent the last four years up Spurrier's ass as a film room junkie. Having JFF's every move make the news here in TX, I do not get the same impression, to say the least. Ah....but those aren't measurables, so you guys don't care.
So, let's talk measurables - starting with Shaw's superior numbers at the Combine. The same Combine where he had the sack to throw, unlike JFF. The win-loss record, td-int ratio, etc. all speaks for itself Oh, and here's a REAL big one. Shaw did it behind a very avg line - unlike JFF who did it with 1st Rd tackles protecting him. And let's not forget the jump balls JFF threw up to Mike Jones - those weren't exactly precision passes sometimes. I digress.
Furthermore, Shaw only really had one QB year in HS, he was a WR prior since his brother (who played at Georgia Tech) was the QB. Point is, though durability is definitely an issue, he's pretty athletic and can run (did I already mention he's faster than JFF?).
Now, all that said, does he improvise or make plays in the open field the way JFF does - definitely not. But, welcome to the NFL, young John Football, that isn't going to work here anyway.
Last point - I gathered my opinion from literally watching every game snap Shaw has taken and many, many of the same from Manziel. If you are basing your opinion off Mayock, Kiper, and McShay you're being terribly short-sighted.
May the best man win (which is Hoyer, in my opinion at this point). Go Browns!
I'll weigh-in with an unbiased opinion (seriously?).
Born and raised in SC, graduated from USC, been living in TX for a while (grad school, etc.) and I'm a long-time Browns fan (very long story).
We LOVE Shaw - no kidding, right? He's a team-first guy, never ever will have off-field issues, and he's a coach's son who's spent the last four years up Spurrier's ass as a film room junkie. Having JFF's every move make the news here in TX, I do not get the same impression, to say the least. Ah....but those aren't measurables, so you guys don't care.
So, let's talk measurables - starting with Shaw's superior numbers at the Combine. The same Combine where he had the sack to throw, unlike JFF. The win-loss record, td-int ratio, etc. all speaks for itself Oh, and here's a REAL big one. Shaw did it behind a very avg line - unlike JFF who did it with 1st Rd tackles protecting him. And let's not forget the jump balls JFF threw up to Mike Jones - those weren't exactly precision passes sometimes. I digress.
Furthermore, Shaw only really had one QB year in HS, he was a WR prior since his brother (who played at Georgia Tech) was the QB. Point is, though durability is definitely an issue, he's pretty athletic and can run (did I already mention he's faster than JFF?).
Now, all that said, does he improvise or make plays in the open field the way JFF does - definitely not. But, welcome to the NFL, young John Football, that isn't going to work here anyway.
Last point - I gathered my opinion from literally watching every game snap Shaw has taken and many, many of the same from Manziel. If you are basing your opinion off Mayock, Kiper, and McShay you're being terribly short-sighted.
May the best man win (which is Hoyer, in my opinion at this point). Go Browns!
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He has a weak arm.
So does Drew Brees. Derek Anderson has a cannon for an arm. Point made.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Page 14 and mostly about social issues surrounding Texas...
Someone even linked SEC record books to make a point about JFootball. Relevant, right?
CShaw career in SEC:
#5 completion % http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/sec/leaders/pass-cmp-pct-player-career.html
#7 rating http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/sec/leaders/pass-rating-player-career.html
#7 yards/attempt http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/sec/leaders/adj-pass-yds-per-att-player-career.html
#18 in total TDs.
Manziel had better numbers but those acquainted with SEC football understand the scheme and program differences. That is not to say Shaw is better - JF was the best qb in college the past two years.
Going to be interesting to see how the browns make these 3-4 qbs work for the coming season.
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Mary Kay Cabot @MaryKayCabot 1h#browns undrafted free agent rookie I've been most impressed with:former SC quarterback Connor Shaw. Nice offseason.
Mary Kay Cabot @MaryKayCabot 1h#browns undrafted free agent rookie I've been most impressed with:former SC quarterback Connor Shaw. Nice offseason.the sea hag does have a type. wasn't she in love with brady quinn too? (not comparing athletic skills).
she's like a little kid with a sweet tooth in the candy shop covering the browns.
on a serious note, i hope the kid can stick around somehow. don't know how it works but we seriously can't have 4 QBs on active roster, can we?
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Mary Kay Cabot @MaryKayCabot 1h#browns undrafted free agent rookie I've been most impressed with:former SC quarterback Connor Shaw. Nice offseason.
the sea hag does have a type. wasn't she in love with brady quinn too? (not comparing athletic skills).
she's like a little kid with a sweet tooth in the candy shop covering the browns.
on a serious note, i hope the kid can stick around somehow. don't know how it works but we seriously can't have 4 QBs on active roster, can we?
on a serious note, i hope the kid can stick around somehow. don't know how it works but we seriously can't have 4 QBs on active roster, can we?
Don't see how, so assuming we see something in both Thigpen and Shaw it becomes a game of "who can get thru waivers". I would guess Thigpen.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Don't see how, so assuming we see something in both Thigpen and Shaw it becomes a game of "who can get thru waivers". I would guess Thigpen.
So keep Shaw on the roster and cut Thigpen?
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So keep Shaw on the roster and cut Thigpen?
I forgot about PS eligibility rules, but all else being equal, I would still go with the younger player, especially since we are talking about the #3 QB position.
Fortunately we still have a ways to go to see whether all else is indeed equal.
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Knocked up his fiance.
http://www.wistv.com/story/25544409/connor-shaw-fiancee-expecting-first-child
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I hope those glasses are cosmetic, otherwise there may be some questions that need answering. And if they are cosmetic, then he's an idiot.
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@mike-h said:
He looks like powder. Hell need super powers to beat out JF or Hoyer.
So does Hoyer, though.
We have a stable of hairless white boys.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
i resemble that remark.
what a handsome lad!
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@mike-h said:
He looks like powder. Hell need super powers to beat out JF or Hoyer.
So does Hoyer, though.
We have a stable of hairless white boys.
We have a stable of hairless white boys.
Minimizes any fighting over JM's visor...
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Way to hit the hole Mr. Shaw.
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@mike-h said:
He looks like powder. Hell need super powers to beat out JF or Hoyer.
So does Hoyer, though.
We have a stable of hairless white boys.
So does Hoyer, though.
We have a stable of hairless white boys.
Do you call the African Americans 'black boys'?
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
So does Hoyer, though.
We have a stable of hairless white boys.
Do you call the African Americans 'black boys'?
Do you call the African Americans 'black boys'?
Yeah. Because they are black boys. Should I not?
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one interception his senior year? that's gotta be a typo......guess this rag can't afford an editor
At least he is nuttin' up to make that skank an honest woman
ftw
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one interception his senior year? that's gotta be a typo......guess this rag can't afford an editor
At least he is nuttin' up to make that skank an honest woman
ftw
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