Inside: U.S. Soccer's March to Brazil
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You mean 54-45
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0-0 draws suck, but Landon's goal against Algeria last WC was nothing short of magical.
0-0 draws can be very entertaining, either with a load of missed chances/great saves, or from being an extremely engaging tactical affair - though I'm aware that the latter is not everybody's cup of tea, and some people won't be happy unless it ends up 5-4.
0-0 draws can be very entertaining, either with a load of missed chances/great saves, or from being an extremely engaging tactical affair - though I'm aware that the latter is not everybody's cup of tea, and some people won't be happy unless it ends up 5-4.
Here is the deal......hockey and soccer are really the exact same sport more or less. They are both played on a rectangular playing field with a "goal" at each end being guarded by a goalie. One is ice, the other grass, but the purpose is the same, put a ball/puck into that goal. Essentially the same tactics are used. Except in hockey those tactics are employed constantly....trying to get into a good position to have the object put into the goal.....whereas in soccer it seems that the teams are almost completely passive at attaining what the purpose of the game is: attack that goal. They twiddle about in the huge surface until finally someone gets an idea in their head that the object of the game is to score, not just possess the ball. Too many times they fail to be aggressive.
It is like back when the NCAA did not have a shot clock and teams would go into the 4 corners offense. All they did was pass the ball around the perimeter, and sometimes they would hold the ball for like 5 minutes at a time. It became so awful that they had to put stop to it and install the shot clock. Maybe soccer needs a shot clock.
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As Chris said earlier, I'm not sure you know what you're talking about. They aren't going to change the rules so the teams are "more aggressive" just so the score is higher. Strategy is constantly being used on the pitch. Damn near every pass and every run has a purpose, whether you see it or not.
I also agree with Chris that Europe has the most countries because they deserve to have the most. They clearly have the mist talent, and more importantly it is developed at an early age.
I hope we see another boom in support for soccer in the US over the next few years. With the World Cup (men's and women's), Olympics and Copa America Tourney (hosted in the US)
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As Chris said earlier, I'm not sure you know what you're talking about. They aren't going to change the rules so the teams are "more aggressive" just so the score is higher. Strategy is constantly being used on the pitch. Damn near every pass and every run has a purpose, whether you see it or not.
I also agree with Chris that Europe has the most countries because they deserve to have the most. They clearly have the mist talent, and more importantly it is developed at an early age.
I hope we see another boom in support for soccer in the US over the next few years. With the World Cup (men's and women's), Olympics and Copa America Tourney (hosted in the US)
As Chris said earlier, I'm not sure you know what you're talking about. They aren't going to change the rules so the teams are "more aggressive" just so the score is higher. Strategy is constantly being used on the pitch. Damn near every pass and every run has a purpose, whether you see it or not.
A grandma doing knitting has purpose with every move. That doesn't make watching her exciting.
I also agree with Chris that Europe has the most countries because they deserve to have the most. They clearly have the mist talent, and more importantly it is developed at an early age.
I hope we see another boom in support for soccer in the US over the next few years. With the World Cup (men's and women's), Olympics and Copa America Tourney (hosted in the US)
Why do we need a boom in support for soccer? We have plenty enough to keep us entertained with sports we like, baseball, football...college and pro, basketball...college and pro...hockey, golf, tennis, volleyball, lacrosse, etc. etc. etc.
That said, I would be all in favor of an MLS team to come here to NEO.
In fact, I have a couple of people in mind to be owners of a new franchise....and a possible place to put them for one of those guys. Let me know if you are interested.
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I can't make you think its exciting. My comment was in response to yours saying they aren't trying to achieve the goal. The goal is winning BTW, not necessarily scoring. Each pass, run, etc serves a purpose towards the goal. They aren't just doing whatever they feel like. Comments like that really kill your credibility and any opinion you may have about the sport. For example, the number of WC teams from each region.
We don't need a boom, I'm just hoping for one. Increased support will also make us better on the world stage. Plus, if it happens to replace the airtime of another sport, say baseball, I'm OK with that.
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I can't make you think its exciting. My comment was in response to yours saying they aren't trying to achieve the goal. The goal is winning BTW, not necessarily scoring. Each pass, run, etc serves a purpose towards the goal. They aren't just doing whatever they feel like. Comments like that really kill your credibility and any opinion you may have about the sport. For example, the number of WC teams from each region.
We don't need a boom, I'm just hoping for one. Increased support will also make us better on the world stage. Plus, if it happens to replace the airtime of another sport, say baseball, I'm OK with that.
I can't make you think its exciting. My comment was in response to yours saying they aren't trying to achieve the goal. The goal is winning BTW, not necessarily scoring. Each pass, run, etc serves a purpose towards the goal. They aren't just doing whatever they feel like. Comments like that really kill your credibility and any opinion you may have about the sport. For example, the number of WC teams from each region.
OK, sure, every move is made in an attempt to try to score or get an advantage.....so is every move in chess, but that does not make chess a palatable spectator sport.
As to your comment about World Cup teams from each region....I think that it is MY position that serves the goal of having soccer become more popular on the total world stage. If you want it to have worldwide appeal, yet you have most of the field come from Europe or SA, then it is not acheiving that goal, now is it?
We don't need a boom, I'm just hoping for one. Increased support will also make us better on the world stage. Plus, if it happens to replace the airtime of another sport, say baseball, I'm OK with that.
I'm not. Baseball is by far a superior sport. It is only because baseball is not popular with the Eurofags was it taken out of the Olympics. Its a sport popular in NA, SA, and Asia.
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0-0 draws can be very entertaining, either with a load of missed chances/great saves, or from being an extremely engaging tactical affair - though I'm aware that the latter is not everybody's cup of tea, and some people won't be happy unless it ends up 5-4.
Here is the deal......hockey and soccer are really the exact same sport more or less. They are both played on a rectangular playing field with a "goal" at each end being guarded by a goalie. One is ice, the other grass, but the purpose is the same, put a ball/puck into that goal. Essentially the same tactics are used. Except in hockey those tactics are employed constantly....trying to get into a good position to have the object put into the goal.....whereas in soccer it seems that the teams are almost completely passive at attaining what the purpose of the game is: attack that goal. They twiddle about in the huge surface until finally someone gets an idea in their head that the object of the game is to score, not just possess the ball. Too many times they fail to be aggressive.
It is like back when the NCAA did not have a shot clock and teams would go into the 4 corners offense. All they did was pass the ball around the perimeter, and sometimes they would hold the ball for like 5 minutes at a time. It became so awful that they had to put stop to it and install the shot clock. Maybe soccer needs a shot clock.
Here is the deal......hockey and soccer are really the exact same sport more or less. They are both played on a rectangular playing field with a "goal" at each end being guarded by a goalie. One is ice, the other grass, but the purpose is the same, put a ball/puck into that goal. Essentially the same tactics are used. Except in hockey those tactics are employed constantly....trying to get into a good position to have the object put into the goal.....whereas in soccer it seems that the teams are almost completely passive at attaining what the purpose of the game is: attack that goal. They twiddle about in the huge surface until finally someone gets an idea in their head that the object of the game is to score, not just possess the ball. Too many times they fail to be aggressive.
It is like back when the NCAA did not have a shot clock and teams would go into the 4 corners offense. All they did was pass the ball around the perimeter, and sometimes they would hold the ball for like 5 minutes at a time. It became so awful that they had to put stop to it and install the shot clock. Maybe soccer needs a shot clock.
While the main goal is the same in both sports, they are a lot farther apart then you think.
Hockey is go full blast for 45 seconds then change all 5 guys, do it again, then change all 5 guys and so on. Soccer the 11 guys are out there for 90+ minutes. They only get 3 subs the WHOLE game. And the subbed for players are not allowed back in the match.
They don't just twiddle around for no reason either. Every pass, run, play has a reason for it. If that's what you see,twiddling around, then you don't know the game.
Also I would much rather watch hockey or soccer before the NBA. Much more entertaining to me.
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
Uh...Gipper... Idk where you've been but soccer has world wide appeal lol.
"Baseball is the far superior sport"... Haha haha haha haha. That's fucking funny man.
Alright... Now soccer is a shitty spectator sport... Lol OK. Just for the record I wasn't trying to convince you its great. You're probably too rooted in your decades old beliefs for me to change your mind about soccer. You seemed to think the players weren't trying to achieve their goal. You thought there wasn't a purpose behind their passes, movements and runs. Glad to you flip flopped on that quickly enough
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
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The US team doesn't have much room to talk either.
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Here is the deal......hockey and soccer are really the exact same sport more or less. They are both played on a rectangular playing field with a "goal" at each end being guarded by a goalie. One is ice, the other grass, but the purpose is the same, put a ball/puck into that goal. Essentially the same tactics are used. Except in hockey those tactics are employed constantly....trying to get into a good position to have the object put into the goal.....whereas in soccer it seems that the teams are almost completely passive at attaining what the purpose of the game is: attack that goal. They twiddle about in the huge surface until finally someone gets an idea in their head that the object of the game is to score, not just possess the ball. Too many times they fail to be aggressive.
It is like back when the NCAA did not have a shot clock and teams would go into the 4 corners offense. All they did was pass the ball around the perimeter, and sometimes they would hold the ball for like 5 minutes at a time. It became so awful that they had to put stop to it and install the shot clock. Maybe soccer needs a shot clock.
While the main goal is the same in both sports, they are a lot farther apart then you think.
Hockey is go full blast for 45 seconds then change all 5 guys, do it again, then change all 5 guys and so on. Soccer the 11 guys are out there for 90+ minutes. They only get 3 subs the WHOLE game. And the subbed for players are not allowed back in the match.
They don't just twiddle around for no reason either. Every pass, run, play has a reason for it. If that's what you see,twiddling around, then you don't know the game.
Also I would much rather watch hockey or soccer before the NBA. Much more entertaining to me.
While the main goal is the same in both sports, they are a lot farther apart then you think.
Hockey is go full blast for 45 seconds then change all 5 guys, do it again, then change all 5 guys and so on. Soccer the 11 guys are out there for 90+ minutes. They only get 3 subs the WHOLE game. And the subbed for players are not allowed back in the match.
They don't just twiddle around for no reason either. Every pass, run, play has a reason for it. If that's what you see,twiddling around, then you don't know the game.
Also I would much rather watch hockey or soccer before the NBA. Much more entertaining to me.
The basic format of the field they each play on is the same. The tactics designed to score are essentially the same. Hockey changes lines so often because it is a more demanding sport. With soccer the players often have a lot of time to stand around.
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Uh...Gipper... Idk where you've been but soccer has world wide appeal lol.
"Baseball is the far superior sport"... Haha haha haha haha. That's fucking funny man.
Alright... Now soccer is a shitty spectator sport... Lol OK. Just for the record I wasn't trying to convince you its great. You're probably too rooted in your decades old beliefs for me to change your mind about soccer. You seemed to think the players weren't trying to achieve their goal. You thought there wasn't a purpose behind their passes, movements and runs. Glad to you flip flopped on that quickly enough
Uh...Gipper... Idk where you've been but soccer has world wide appeal lol.
I never said that it didn't have world wide appeal.....but baseball is just as popular in much of Latin America, and Asia, and Australia, and obviously North America. Like I said....it is only in Europe basically that baseball hasn't caught on. Only an ostrich can see otherwise.
"Baseball is the far superior sport"... Haha haha haha haha. That's fucking funny man.
Funny as a heart attack.
Alright... Now soccer is a shitty spectator sport... Lol OK. Just for the record I wasn't trying to convince you its great. You're probably too rooted in your decades old beliefs for me to change your mind about soccer.
Not really, I am amenable to watching interesting sporting events. I am not saying soccer isn't an interesting sport. But to me, it is just the generic brand of sport.
You seemed to think the players weren't trying to achieve their goal. You thought there wasn't a purpose behind their passes, movements and runs. Glad to you flip flopped on that quickly enough.
I think they take their good old time often enough to get into the action.
When basketball was doing the old 4 corners offense there was a purpose behind each of those movements, passes, runs as well.
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Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
While the main goal is the same in both sports, they are a lot farther apart then you think.
Hockey is go full blast for 45 seconds then change all 5 guys, do it again, then change all 5 guys and so on. Soccer the 11 guys are out there for 90+ minutes. They only get 3 subs the WHOLE game. And the subbed for players are not allowed back in the match.
They don't just twiddle around for no reason either. Every pass, run, play has a reason for it. If that's what you see,twiddling around, then you don't know the game.
Also I would much rather watch hockey or soccer before the NBA. Much more entertaining to me.
The basic format of the field they each play on is the same. The tactics designed to score are essentially the same. Hockey changes lines so often because it is a more demanding sport. With soccer the players often have a lot of time to stand around.
The basic format of the field they each play on is the same. The tactics designed to score are essentially the same. Hockey changes lines so often because it is a more demanding sport. With soccer the players often have a lot of time to stand around.
... like they're sitting on a bench?
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You don't seem to understand the game of soccer so this debate is really pointless.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
I question some of this. I don't think soccer is necessarily #1 in China, at all. Baseball is every bit as big in Mexico.
And if soccer is so big in all those Asian and African countries, then why do they get short shrift in WC entries.
And, beyond everything, the only one that really matters is that big pick country on the left.
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You don't seem to understand the game of soccer so this debate is really pointless.
I understand it fine. I just don't agree with your version of what its all about. They obviously don't play soccer with the same ferocity as they play hockey. Yes, soccer players do rest out there while they are watching the action occur on the other part of the field. When it is appropriate they move into position to become part of the action. Basketball players do too. Baseball players certainly do.
Not sure what it is that you think I don't understand.
I understand that it is a slow paced game. That is not the problem.
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You seem to not understand the tactics, and act like they are just doing whatever they feel like. This leads me to seriously question your understanding of the game. An ignorant view of it is an easy pathway to criticize it
If you're going to actually compare baseball to soccer when it comes to how physically demanding they are then fuck... This is even more pointless than I thought.
I'm not even sure how we got to this hockey vs soccer debate. Its like you are trying to just find any way to attack soccer and are jumping all around to do so.
We've been over this before, the World Cup selection thing. The point is to get the best countries in the works cup, not to get an equal amount from each region. Europe is clearly the most skilled region, so they get the most teams. What is there not to understand?
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
You seem to not understand the tactics, and act like they are just doing whatever they feel like. This leads me to seriously question your understanding of the game. An ignorant view of it is an easy pathway to criticize it
If you're going to actually compare baseball to soccer when it comes to how physically demanding they are then fuck... This is even more pointless than I thought.
I'm not even sure how we got to this hockey vs soccer debate. Its like you are trying to just find any way to attack soccer and are jumping all around to do so.
We've been over this before, the World Cup selection thing. The point is to get the best countries in the works cup, not to get an equal amount from each region. Europe is clearly the most skilled region, so they get the most teams. What is there not to understand?
You seem to not understand the tactics, and act like they are just doing whatever they feel like. This leads me to seriously question your understanding of the game. An ignorant view of it is an easy pathway to criticize it
If you're going to actually compare baseball to soccer when it comes to how physically demanding they are then fuck... This is even more pointless than I thought.
I'm not even sure how we got to this hockey vs soccer debate. Its like you are trying to just find any way to attack soccer and are jumping all around to do so.
We've been over this before, the World Cup selection thing. The point is to get the best countries in the works cup, not to get an equal amount from each region. Europe is clearly the most skilled region, so they get the most teams. What is there not to understand?
South America might disagree
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