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  • The Gipper The GipperT In Memoriam Very Popular
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    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @douche-nozzle said:

    You can't seriously be so blind for Johnny that you think a kid who doesn't even know what a playbook is, let alone how to use it, should be your QB when it counts?

    Want my prediction? Browns or otherwise, the kid is a great playground QB, but he thinks he is bigger than the game and will probably be unable to grasp the concept of a structured offense. CFL..........Here come Johnny!

    Maybe, maybe not. I am not sure his college experience....and his rookie training camp experience is any different than say, Cam Newton's, Colin Kaepernick's, RGIIIs.

    Mostly your statement is just wishful thinking.

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    • hx214H hx214

      So with the cuts coming, do they cut Shaw and keep Grossman?

      If so what is the advantage to keeping Grossman if Hoyer is the starter? Helping Johnny learn an offense that he isn't even running if he isn't starting? Does Grossman really need to help a vet like Hoyer learn the offense? Is Grossman servicable if he has to be used?

      I doubt Shaw would make it through waviers and end up on the practice squad another team would pick him up for a 3rd string guy to learn their system, so far he has shown some of the best upside out of the QB's.

      On the other hand, do you want two rookie QB's on the roster?

      Just wondering if the upside to having a guy like Grossman around outweights keeping a young player that could have big upside.

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      Lonnie UtahL Lonnie Utah wrote on last edited by
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      @hx214 said:

      If so what is the advantage to keeping Grossman if Hoyer is the starter? Helping Johnny learn an offense that he isn't even running if he isn't starting? Does Grossman really need to help a vet like Hoyer learn the offense? Is Grossman servicable if he has to be used?

      The disadvantage of keeping Grossman is you have to pay him a full year of his base salary if he makes the 53 man roster.

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      • Mudfly MudflyM Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Dedicated One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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        MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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        It will be interested to see if Grossman even plays tonight......we haven't seen him throw a single pass in a game yet....so, it would make sense to test drive him at least once, right???.....Id say if he doesn't play tonight, then he's a goner for sure......

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        • MudflyM Mudfly

          It will be interested to see if Grossman even plays tonight......we haven't seen him throw a single pass in a game yet....so, it would make sense to test drive him at least once, right???.....Id say if he doesn't play tonight, then he's a goner for sure......

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          cvcanedyC cvcanedy wrote on last edited by
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          @mudfly said:

          It will be interested to see if Grossman even plays tonight......we haven't seen him throw a single pass in a game yet....so, it would make sense to test drive him at least once, right???.....Id say if he doesn't play tonight, then he's a goner for sure......

          Tomorrow.

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            @mudfly said:

            It will be interested to see if Grossman even plays tonight......we haven't seen him throw a single pass in a game yet....so, it would make sense to test drive him at least once, right???.....Id say if he doesn't play tonight, then he's a goner for sure......

            Tomorrow.

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            MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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            @cvcanedy said:

            Tomorrow.

            wow.....hahaha.....and I thought it was Thursday.....dagnabbit, gotta wait another day now.....

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            • MudflyM Mudfly

              @cvcanedy said:

              Tomorrow.

              wow.....hahaha.....and I thought it was Thursday.....dagnabbit, gotta wait another day now.....

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              T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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              @mudfly said:

              dagnabbit

              OMG with vocabulary like that your becoming......................................one of us! Welcome to the manzealots. LOL. 😛

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                @cvcanedy said:

                Tomorrow.

                wow.....hahaha.....and I thought it was Thursday.....dagnabbit, gotta wait another day now.....

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                cvcanedyC cvcanedy wrote on last edited by
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                @mudfly said:

                wow.....hahaha.....and I thought it was Thursday.....dagnabbit, gotta wait another day now.....

                Yeah I was excited for a minute thinking it was tonight. Then disappointed.

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                • A alpine1963

                  Football is about the easiest sport to sit back and be a Monday morning quarterback( Tuesday in this case). But the truth about what Conner can do was not even shown in Monday's game. He is the best I have ever seen at keeping the chains moving. He always knows where he has to go to get a first down etc. If he would have played more than two minutes last night the Brown's would have simply won the game. The other QB's looked sloppy with their execution. Sure he played against the third string guys but he also played with a third string line on his side. Give the kid a chance and finally be a winner in Cleveland. I'm a Brown's fan that truly believes in this kid. Pick any game that he has played in and watch his desire and mechanics, they are second to none. If he gets cut from the team you will eventually get beat by him in the future.

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                  Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                  @alpine1963 said:

                  Football is about the easiest sport to sit back and be a Monday morning quarterback...

                  Only sport really since it's the only one with a position named QB...

                  @billy1954 said:

                  Shaw never got the real respect he should have got in college and the Browns have to play Johnny.

                  @cleinchi said:

                  so much for Shaw slipping through to the practice squad... a developmental qb actually showing some potential for a change...

                  ... and there's a reason he went undrafted. He's a prospect, a developmental, long-shot prospect... nothing more. But every once in a while one makes it.

                  @the-gipper said:

                  Your idea:

                  https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQplMip3Stfu0Wa96nho2eV9JBIEXJs74_Aixm-UldlcdtztfANfA

                  And somewhere a couple steps out to their backyard pool and wonders what happened to their matching hammocks...

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                    @the-gipper said:

                    You got Derek Anderson to back up Cam.....what more could you possibly want?

                    I actually like DA, but he's getting older and this is a young mans game. He did what he was brought in to do, helping to mentor Cam, and he done a admirable job. Don't forget, the Panthers had planned to take Russel Wilson as Cams back up, but was gone before the round they had planned to take him (think they had him a a 4th rounder). That's the MO of this regime, bring in a solid vet to mentor a high draft pick, unless one is already on the roster. DA for Cam, Cotchery and Avant for Benjamin, and we already had Thomas Davis and Jon Beason for Luke Kuechley. That's also part of the reason Steve Smith is no longer there. As much as I love Smitty he was a me first guy, and wouldn't play well with others.

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                    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                    @strawman said:

                    I actually like DA, but he's getting older and this is a young mans game. He did what he was brought in to do, helping to mentor Cam, and he done a admirable job.

                    Never thought I'd see "mentor" and "DA" in the same forum let alone the same post...

                    @lonnie-utah said:

                    Every Connor Shaw Snap From Last Night.

                    Except for one time CS threw the ball accuratley where only his guy had a shot at it. Exception was the wild high and behind post to Krause... who bailed him out with a very, very nice catch (probably why he stuck and Armstrong went). Best throw was the one across his body while rolling left. Snead made a nice diving catch just inbounds.

                    @mudfly said:

                    Did a little research today on Heisman winning QB's...

                    Careful.. you're treading on Gipper's turf... 😉

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                    • StocktonShortsS StocktonShorts

                      I love when people start playing the semantics game.

                      "Oh I never said WILL BE, I said COULD BE and the fact hes a male that currently plays QB for a NFL team then technically I'm right, he COULD BE the next Kurt Warner"

                      You know what is meant when people defend #6 over and over by saying "But Kurt Warner was undrafted" and "Well I keep thinking about Kurt Warner". Oh just for comparison? Why didn't they say "Well I just think about Pat Devlin was undrafted too" when doing the comparison? It wouldn't be because they're trying to indicate they think #6 is like Kurt Warner do you?

                      Keep distancing yourself. You can say "Well by Websters Dictionary COULD means that its possible and because he's in the NFL it is possible" and others will jump and go "YEAH EXACTLY" but everyone knows what has been said and what was meant and you're not fooling anyone, including yourself no matter what you want to say.

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                      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                      @douche-nozzle said:

                      F%*k you!

                      We have lift off...

                      @stocktonshorts said:

                      I love when people start playing the semantics game.

                      @stocktonshorts said:

                      Ohhh please show me where I said anything near that.

                      Nice contrast...

                      @stocktonshorts said:

                      Once again point to me where I said Manziel is good.

                      Saying (and repeating ad nauseam) that "JM will be the starter when he is ready" did not mean you thought he'd be good?

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