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  • hoortaH hoorta

    @thenew23 said:

    Why not blame it on Cundiff?? We played well enough to win but he didnt convert.

    And yes, he missed a PAT that almost costed us a game... jeesh

    Yes, the Browns played well enough to win. But to say it's all on Cundiff? We make one more first down at the end of the game, we're not having this discussion on how bad Cundiff sucks.

    @hoorta said:

    Yes, the Browns played well enough to win. But to say it's all on Cundiff? We make one more first down at the end of the game, we're not having this discussion on how bad Cundiff sucks.

    ^this x1k

  • KvoetheK Kvoethe

    Bironas was available.

    Im going to hell.

    @kvoethe said:

    Bironas was available.

    Im going to hell.

    Yes sir you are. Don't worry I'll be right there too because I laughed when I read it.

  • TopDawg31T TopDawg31

    Cundiff is no Dawson but Yount has been sending some knuckle balls to the holder as of late. Lets hope its correctable

    @topdawg31 said:

    Cundiff is no Dawson but Yount has been sending some knuckle balls to the holder as of late. Lets hope its correctable

    I remember a few years back a certain long snapper was cut for doing something similar. And Phil Dawson was the kicker.

  • F Frenchie

    I don't think this is a priority now - perhaps in the off season. But fixing the bad snaps is a priority. Can we get a statistic on the accuracy of snaps for PAT and field goals? Everyone seems way off target.

    @frenchie said:

    I don't think this is a priority now - perhaps in the off season. But fixing the bad snaps is a priority. Can we get a statistic on the accuracy of snaps for PAT and field goals? Everyone seems way off target.

    insuring we don't lose several more games due to botched has to be a priority period.
  • hoortaH hoorta

    @thenew23 said:

    Why not blame it on Cundiff?? We played well enough to win but he didnt convert.

    And yes, he missed a PAT that almost costed us a game... jeesh

    Yes, the Browns played well enough to win. But to say it's all on Cundiff? We make one more first down at the end of the game, we're not having this discussion on how bad Cundiff sucks.

    @hoorta said:

    Yes, the Browns played well enough to win. But to say it's all on Cundiff? We make one more first down at the end of the game, we're not having this discussion on how bad Cundiff sucks.

    for the few times you are referring to we can show you 20+ other plays where the executed very well. That is not true for the FG unit. Bring I'm a snapper and a kicker for all I care but fix it.

  • Here is what I will NEVER understand. Why do teams dismiss the idea of drafting a kicker? In any given year, you can secure one of the best kickers in the draft class by spending a seventh round pick. Let's look at the Browns recent history of 7th round picks:

    2013: Garrett Gilkey, OL

    2012: Brad Smelley, FB

    2011: Eric Hagg, DB

    2008: Alex Hall, LB

    2007: Syndric Steptoe, WR

    2006: Justin Hamilton, RB

    Is anyone going to seriously argue that any of these guys have the impact on winning that a good field goal kicker would?

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  • F Frenchie

    I don't think this is a priority now - perhaps in the off season. But fixing the bad snaps is a priority. Can we get a statistic on the accuracy of snaps for PAT and field goals? Everyone seems way off target.

    @frenchie said:

    I don't think this is a priority now - perhaps in the off season. But fixing the bad snaps is a priority. Can we get a statistic on the accuracy of snaps for PAT and field goals? Everyone seems way off target.

    How is it not priority? A couple of points was the difference in all 3 games.

  • Yes the bad snaps needs to be fixed as well but if my kicker can't hit a 50+ field goal in 2014 it's a problem

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  • hoortaH hoorta

    @thenew23 said:

    Why not blame it on Cundiff?? We played well enough to win but he didnt convert.

    And yes, he missed a PAT that almost costed us a game... jeesh

    Yes, the Browns played well enough to win. But to say it's all on Cundiff? We make one more first down at the end of the game, we're not having this discussion on how bad Cundiff sucks.

    @hoorta said:

    Yes, the Browns played well enough to win. But to say it's all on Cundiff? We make one more first down at the end of the game, we're not having this discussion on how bad Cundiff sucks.

    I agree. But, if he makes one of those field goals, we're not having the discussion about how we should have gotten one first down... it can go both ways...

    #Justsayin'
  • OsirisO Osiris

    Here is what I will NEVER understand. Why do teams dismiss the idea of drafting a kicker? In any given year, you can secure one of the best kickers in the draft class by spending a seventh round pick. Let's look at the Browns recent history of 7th round picks:

    2013: Garrett Gilkey, OL

    2012: Brad Smelley, FB

    2011: Eric Hagg, DB

    2008: Alex Hall, LB

    2007: Syndric Steptoe, WR

    2006: Justin Hamilton, RB

    Is anyone going to seriously argue that any of these guys have the impact on winning that a good field goal kicker would?

    @osiris said:

    Here is what I will NEVER understand. Why do teams dismiss the idea of drafting a kicker? In any given year, you can secure one of the best kickers in the draft class by spending a seventh round pick. Let's look at the Browns recent history of 7th round picks:

    2013: Garrett Gilkey, OL

    2012: Brad Smelley, FB

    2011: Eric Hagg, DB

    2008: Alex Hall, LB

    2007: Syndric Steptoe, WR

    2006: Justin Hamilton, RB

    Is anyone going to seriously argue that any of these guys have the impact on winning that a good field goal kicker would?

    You have a point

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  • OsirisO Osiris

    Here is what I will NEVER understand. Why do teams dismiss the idea of drafting a kicker? In any given year, you can secure one of the best kickers in the draft class by spending a seventh round pick. Let's look at the Browns recent history of 7th round picks:

    2013: Garrett Gilkey, OL

    2012: Brad Smelley, FB

    2011: Eric Hagg, DB

    2008: Alex Hall, LB

    2007: Syndric Steptoe, WR

    2006: Justin Hamilton, RB

    Is anyone going to seriously argue that any of these guys have the impact on winning that a good field goal kicker would?

    @osiris said:

    Here is what I will NEVER understand. Why do teams dismiss the idea of drafting a kicker? In any given year, you can secure one of the best kickers in the draft class by spending a seventh round pick.

    Agree... even higher if kicker is truly exceptional.

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  • Lions just changed kickers. I expect us to do the same

    #Justsayin'

  • There has to be at least a 1000 UDFA kickers that graduate every year, lets go Farmer youv'e been gold with those UDFA's find us another long snapper while your at it

  • A Alkid3

    There has to be a better kicker that can hit field goals better than this guy. Every time he gets ready to kick I feel like he's got a 25% chance to make it from wherever. I remember him falling down getting ready to kick against the Bengals last year when they won. Cundiff looked like a fool. And still does.

    @alkid3 said:

    There has to be a better kicker that can hit field goals better than this guy. Every time he gets ready to kick I feel like he's got a 25% chance to make it from wherever. I remember him falling down getting ready to kick against the Bengals last year when they won. Cundiff looked like a fool. And still does.

    I only read the first half-dozen posts on this thread. With that said.....I think you guys are whacked.

    Cundiff had an excellent year last year. His kickoffs are deep.

    Neither FG miss was his fault yesterday. The first one had a low snap that Lanning had a hard time handling. He got it in position way too late and Cundiff still hit the crossbar from 50. How he did that.......I don't know. The second one was blocked because Tabor is an idiot. The Rats overloaded our offensive right side and the dude blew right by Winn. Btw............why the fuck is Winn our wing guy? He is way too slow for that spot.

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  • Dawson only making 50% of his kicks this season, maybe he will be available soon? Whats really bad is his kick that was blocked yesterday came when AZ only had 9 guys on the field, talk about poor ST play

  • A Alkid3

    Yes the bad snaps needs to be fixed as well but if my kicker can't hit a 50+ field goal in 2014 it's a problem

    @alkid3 said:

    Yes the bad snaps needs to be fixed as well but if my kicker can't hit a 50+ field goal in 2014 it's a problem

    No doubt not being able to make a 70 yarder sucks.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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  • V Vers

    @alkid3 said:

    There has to be a better kicker that can hit field goals better than this guy. Every time he gets ready to kick I feel like he's got a 25% chance to make it from wherever. I remember him falling down getting ready to kick against the Bengals last year when they won. Cundiff looked like a fool. And still does.

    I only read the first half-dozen posts on this thread. With that said.....I think you guys are whacked.

    Cundiff had an excellent year last year. His kickoffs are deep.

    Neither FG miss was his fault yesterday. The first one had a low snap that Lanning had a hard time handling. He got it in position way too late and Cundiff still hit the crossbar from 50. How he did that.......I don't know. The second one was blocked because Tabor is an idiot. The Rats overloaded our offensive right side and the dude blew right by Winn. Btw............why the fuck is Winn our wing guy? He is way too slow for that spot.

    @vers said:

    Btw............why the fuck is Winn our wing guy? He is way too slow for that spot.

    Because no one blocks the outside rusher?

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  • The guy has bounced around on something like a dozen different teams. There's a reason for this.

  • I can imagine how much money they would have saved by paying Phil Dawson and comparing it to the price of two losses?

    (even though he is not immune to a blocked kick)

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