Do juiced-up Steelers teams deserve asterisks?
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Zombo said:
What?Zombo
you see zombo, he cannot think all too well. he has severe brain damage from falling on and off the bandwagon for years and landing on his head. it's not his fault really, it the only way he knows. right Fondles and Sucks Gonads?
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Squeelroids suck*.
*the Squeelroids have never won a league championship without cheating in one way or another. Steroids used to be their prefferred method of cheating. Now, it's paying off officials.
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Zombo said:
The Steelers absolutely sucked for 40 years, there is no denying it.
The Browns have sucked since Modell yanked the rug from under the city in 94.
In 94 we were a playoff team. Seven playoff seasons in the 80s. Two more in the 70's. Just about evey year in the 60's.
These Browns suck. (Even though they had the same record as Pittsburgh one year ago)
From 1946 to 1995, the Browns were an outstanding league franchise. A couple lean years in the mid 70's and early 90's ... otherwise always highly competitive.
Not the pile of crap the Steelers were from 1933-1972 or that the Browns have basically been since 99.
Zombo
--the tide will turn again ... so try and act with some class while you can.
In league in which 5-6 teams make the playoffs per season, making the playoffs does not make you a good team. You say the Steelers from 1933-1971 sucked, but there was only one post-season team per conference (save for a tie). So the basis of using playoff appearances to compare the "success" of teams of the different eras.
Since the 1964 NFL Championship Game, the Browns have managed to win a paltry 4 playoff games. If you want to fully understand that degree of sucktitude, only the Houston Texans (around only since 2002) Detroit Lions, New Orleans Saints and Kansas City Cheifs have won less. The Panthers, Jaguars and Ravens, who have less than a 15 year existance, all have more than than the Browns.
Only 7 fewer teams that have been around since the merger have fewer Division Titles than the Browns. And there were 6 of those awarded per season, now there are 8. And the Browns have the 8th worst winning percentage since the merger. Pretty much proves my point of your sucktitude.
Wow, you had the same record as us back in 2007......maybe you would have had a better record if you would have, oh, I don't know, actually beaten us.
In 1994, we swept you on a 3 game sweep in that season, same as we did your last playoff season of 2002.
The truth of the matter is by and large, the Browns have been at the bottom of the league in winning, management, class (throwing bottles on the field, batteries on the field) and talent. The only thing Cleveland can top Pittsburgh at in terms of football is that your city has 2-0 advantage, in terms of franchises LEAVING the city.
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Zombo said:
The Steelers absolutely sucked for 40 years, there is no denying it.
The Browns have sucked since Modell yanked the rug from under the city in 94.
In 94 we were a playoff team. Seven playoff seasons in the 80s. Two more in the 70's. Just about evey year in the 60's.
These Browns suck. (Even though they had the same record as Pittsburgh one year ago)
From 1946 to 1995, the Browns were an outstanding league franchise. A couple lean years in the mid 70's and early 90's ... otherwise always highly competitive.
Not the pile of crap the Steelers were from 1933-1972 or that the Browns have basically been since 99.
Zombo
--the tide will turn again ... so try and act with some class while you can.
In league in which 5-6 teams make the playoffs per season, making the playoffs does not make you a good team. You say the Steelers from 1933-1971 sucked, but there was only one post-season team per conference (save for a tie). So the basis of using playoff appearances to compare the "success" of teams of the different eras.
Since the 1964 NFL Championship Game, the Browns have managed to win a paltry 4 playoff games. If you want to fully understand that degree of sucktitude, only the Houston Texans (around only since 2002) Detroit Lions, New Orleans Saints and Kansas City Cheifs have won less. The Panthers, Jaguars and Ravens, who have less than a 15 year existance, all have more than than the Browns.
Only 7 fewer teams that have been around since the merger have fewer Division Titles than the Browns. And there were 6 of those awarded per season, now there are 8. And the Browns have the 8th worst winning percentage since the merger. Pretty much proves my point of your sucktitude.
Wow, you had the same record as us back in 2007......maybe you would have had a better record if you would have, oh, I don't know, actually beaten us.
In 1994, we swept you on a 3 game sweep in that season, same as we did your last playoff season of 2002.
The truth of the matter is by and large, the Browns have been at the bottom of the league in winning, management, class (throwing bottles on the field, batteries on the field) and talent. The only thing Cleveland can top Pittsburgh at in terms of football is that your city has 2-0 advantage, in terms of franchises LEAVING the city.
The truth of the matter is by and large, the Browns have been at the bottom of the league in winning, management, class (throwing bottles on the field, batteries on the field) and talent. The only thing Cleveland can top Pittsburgh at in terms of football is that your city has 2-0 advantage, in terms of franchises LEAVING the city.
yet your pathetic ass is still on a browns message board. get a life loser
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Zombo said:
We have 8 league championships. The AAFC, like the AFL, is recognized by the Pro Football Hall of Fame as a MAJOR professional football league.We have 8 league championships, you have 6, you are outscored on that simple, straight-forward point.
Zombo
--The AAFC Browns won the NFL on their first try ... not only were they as good ... they were better. And they proved it.
The NFL does not recognize those Championships. Sad too, because the Browns fans are the only ones who hold minor league titles has high as you do. Ever hear the Bills or Chargers fans talk about their AFL Championships the same way? They don't. They are about winning the real prize, not living in the past in a dead league long forgotten.
Oh, btw, the Steelers have 76 championships, they won al their Rec Leagues from 1935-1967. See my point, AAFC Titles were nothing more than a minor league championship, not recognized by the NFL.
The Pro Football Hall of Fame gives credence for the USFL and Arena league championships too, are you as equally proud of those? I realize you would be, but then again, you have nothing else to grab onto.
In the meantime, enjoy the SI commercials with the Steelers Championship Package. Did you order yours yet?
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45 years? The Steelers won their first division title in 1972 and were founded in 1933. Do you need help with your math?
And what are you talking about 20 year suck-fest?
Since 1965, you have won a grand total of 4 playoff games. Only 4 in all that time. The 1970s was a pathetic joke for you. A back to back run in 86/87 aside, the 80s were mediocre. The 90s were worse. The 2000s have been ridiculous. I see a 40 year run of absolutely nothing to be proud of. 20 year suck-fest? Double that one up buddy.
ok man you really need to stop digging up old posts and writing about them. nobody cares about what you think. i have barely read anything you have written. go on a steeler's board with all of the other fail weather idiots. i also figured out what your name means; Fondles and Sucks Gonads.
ok man you really need to stop digging up old posts and writing about them. nobody cares about what you think. i have barely read anything you have written. go on a steeler's board with all of the other fail weather idiots. i also figured out what your name means; Fondles and Sucks Gonads.
That's because I put down logic, fact and truth. I read this whole thing, and rolled my eyes to the stupidity of you guys, so you drew me out, its your own fault.
All your pathetic loser *** can do is say Squeelers, or Steelroids or you cheated or we are the best fans or wait till next year.
I destroy you, and everyone of your 14 page thread, and of course you don't want me here. I wouldn't if I were you either, because I will make you realize just how pathetic your franchise really is.
How have you enjoyed 25 of the last 28 head to head games by the way? What is your excuse for the season sweep next year? I mean, you've had plenty of time to practice--I am sure you can come up with a new excuse you haven't used yet.
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The truth of the matter is by and large, the Browns have been at the bottom of the league in winning, management, class (throwing bottles on the field, batteries on the field) and talent. The only thing Cleveland can top Pittsburgh at in terms of football is that your city has 2-0 advantage, in terms of franchises LEAVING the city.
yet your pathetic ass is still on a browns message board. get a life loser
yet your pathetic ass is still on a browns message board. get a life loser
Lets see here, I am on a message board, talking **** about a rival team. That means I have to get a life. Okay.....so maybe you can show me, let's see, you are on a message board, talking **** about a rival team, oh, please do show me how to have a life you expert.
Don't worry, I won't stay here long. Either I will be banned because you won't be able to handle the fact that someone comes in here and totally debunks everything you guys are trying to convince each other about, or I will leave on my own, because beating up on the Browns/their fans/the city/the organization is old hat, its been done for the last 20 years with ease. There is nothing more to get excited about with it.
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Zombo said:
Oh my God, you are so stupid.Yes, I'm sure the Bills and Chargers fans recognize their AFL championships and are proud of them as champions, as they should be. They won their league.
No the Pro Football Fame does NOT recognize the USFL or Arena or for matter the XFL, WFL or Canadian as major leagues ... JUST the NFL, AFL and the AAFC.
This information is readily available ... please get some game.
Ok, now all of your stupidty aside: DO YOU REALIZE HOW MUCH OF A FUKTARD YOU ARE ARGUING THIS SHIT ON OUR BOARD? Seriously. You just won the Super Bowl and you are spending your off-season on a Browns board defending 1970's steroid use and the merits of our football championships.
Your very presence here means ... YOU ARE OWNED.
Browns fans own Steeler fans. It is as clear as day. Your team keeps winning and you stupid fuks are only concerned with what we think.
Well, here's what we think: I'd rather be a Browns fan.
Zombo
Cleveland Fan for Life: You showed him Zombo, yeah, man, how about when the Browns beat the Yankees back in 1947.
Zombo: Don't you mean the Indians?
Cleveland Fan for Life: No man, I mean that NFL, er, I mean AAFC Powerhouse New York Yankees.
Atenears: Hey, didn't Joe Dimaggio play QB for them?
Zombo: Wait a minute, the Yankees played football too? I thought they only played baseball. Wow, I thought Bo Jackson was the only two sport Athlete.
Cleveland Fan for Life: No, no, no, man, the Yankees were the name of that football team, they had a separate baseball team.
Zombo: Well, anyway, that Title means more than a Super Bowl anyway.
Inspecta: Yeah, Zombo, you are right, lets celebrate that win! What was the score of that game?
Zombo: Hell, I don't know, but we have 8 titles and the Steelers only have 6. Lets hug each other.
Atenears: Yeah, who needs a Super Bowl anyway. And what about this new guy, who completely pointed out that an NFL Championship was played on a rotating home field--so you didn't even have to EARN it, required no playoff wins in order to qualify for and was definitely not the Same as a Super Bowl since the Colts won the NFL Championship in 1969 and the Vikings won it in 1970, but failed to win the Super Bowl.
Inspecta: That's actually something that makes sense. Mabye that is why the NFL hardly ever talks about them.
Zombo: No, no, no.....we can't acknowledge logic. Tell you what, lets talk about how much better fans we are than the Steelers fans. After all, only two franchises have left Cleveland. We have to be able to beat them at something.
Pumpkin Eater: Yeah, especially since they are so dirty.
Inspecta: Wait a minute, isn't your avatar that of a dirty hit on Terry Bradshaw of which Browns fans are so proud?
Zombo: Forget that, we do double standards when its in our favor.
See here Zombo, you cannot own me. It's not possible. At the end of the day, I support the team with the Super Bowl....I support the team with the 25 wins in 28 games against each other. I support the best NFL Franchise in terms of Super Bowls, Division Championships, AFC Championships, Post Season wins and Total Wins since the merger.
All you can do is hug each others **** and talk about how great a fan you are.
You want me to order you the Steelers Super Bowl Video in Blue Ray or regular DVD?
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Did you SERIOUSLY just type all that?
Oh my god this is tooooo funny.
Keep makin' em dance Zombo.
FYI, dipshit above, You had to win your conference and if tied with another teams record you had to play a playoff game to get into the championship game.
So... talk about debunking...
You should probably learn to do a tiny bit of research before you expose yourself as a complete moron.
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JosephSixpack said:
Oh Flugey -- you keep telling yourself that another 1,000 times, and maybe you'll start to believe it too!Don't need to - False Glory is a true story. Want proof? Read Sports Illustrated's body count about 10 caskets ago. I believe that's check mate. I appreciate all the research and recruits you've brought to this subject but the facts are the facts Joey. You can keep trying though. You remind me a hamster sprinting on a hamster wheel. Lots of effort without any forward movement.
There was only 1 perfect team in the 70s and they were clean. That makes Shula's Dolphins the team of the 70s. Those guys were great!!!
- Tom F. (Zombo's kicking your buddy's ass so bad I'm almost embarassed for the guy)
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I wonder if the Squeelroids will ever win a championship without cheating?
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Zombo said:
Oh my God, you are so stupid.Yes, I'm sure the Bills and Chargers fans recognize their AFL championships and are proud of them as champions, as they should be. They won their league.
No the Pro Football Fame does NOT recognize the USFL or Arena or for matter the XFL, WFL or Canadian as major leagues ... JUST the NFL, AFL and the AAFC.
This information is readily available ... please get some game.
Ok, now all of your stupidty aside: DO YOU REALIZE HOW MUCH OF A FUKTARD YOU ARE ARGUING THIS SHIT ON OUR BOARD? Seriously. You just won the Super Bowl and you are spending your off-season on a Browns board defending 1970's steroid use and the merits of our football championships.
Your very presence here means ... YOU ARE OWNED.
Browns fans own Steeler fans. It is as clear as day. Your team keeps winning and you stupid fuks are only concerned with what we think.
Well, here's what we think: I'd rather be a Browns fan.
Zombo
Cleveland Fan for Life: You showed him Zombo, yeah, man, how about when the Browns beat the Yankees back in 1947.
Zombo: Don't you mean the Indians?
Cleveland Fan for Life: No man, I mean that NFL, er, I mean AAFC Powerhouse New York Yankees.
Atenears: Hey, didn't Joe Dimaggio play QB for them?
Zombo: Wait a minute, the Yankees played football too? I thought they only played baseball. Wow, I thought Bo Jackson was the only two sport Athlete.
Cleveland Fan for Life: No, no, no, man, the Yankees were the name of that football team, they had a separate baseball team.
Zombo: Well, anyway, that Title means more than a Super Bowl anyway.
Inspecta: Yeah, Zombo, you are right, lets celebrate that win! What was the score of that game?
Zombo: Hell, I don't know, but we have 8 titles and the Steelers only have 6. Lets hug each other.
Atenears: Yeah, who needs a Super Bowl anyway. And what about this new guy, who completely pointed out that an NFL Championship was played on a rotating home field--so you didn't even have to EARN it, required no playoff wins in order to qualify for and was definitely not the Same as a Super Bowl since the Colts won the NFL Championship in 1969 and the Vikings won it in 1970, but failed to win the Super Bowl.
Inspecta: That's actually something that makes sense. Mabye that is why the NFL hardly ever talks about them.
Zombo: No, no, no.....we can't acknowledge logic. Tell you what, lets talk about how much better fans we are than the Steelers fans. After all, only two franchises have left Cleveland. We have to be able to beat them at something.
Pumpkin Eater: Yeah, especially since they are so dirty.
Inspecta: Wait a minute, isn't your avatar that of a dirty hit on Terry Bradshaw of which Browns fans are so proud?
Zombo: Forget that, we do double standards when its in our favor.
See here Zombo, you cannot own me. It's not possible. At the end of the day, I support the team with the Super Bowl....I support the team with the 25 wins in 28 games against each other. I support the best NFL Franchise in terms of Super Bowls, Division Championships, AFC Championships, Post Season wins and Total Wins since the merger.
All you can do is hug each others **** and talk about how great a fan you are.
You want me to order you the Steelers Super Bowl Video in Blue Ray or regular DVD?
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Zombo said:
Well, I guess that's it. We shut the pussies up, finally.Good work Flugs, Rif, Furns and all who made them eat their own crap.
Zombo
--The verdict is in: give 'em an asterisk.
They'll be back. I think it's Incest Season in the hills of West Pennsylginia, so the Yinzers are otherwise occupied.
Browns Championships !!!!!!!!
Cheatroids Championships******
Doug
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Zombo said:
Well, I guess that's it. We shut the pussies up, finally.Good work Flugs, Rif, Furns and all who made them eat their own crap.
Zombo
--The verdict is in: give 'em an asterisk.
They'll be back. I think it's Incest Season in the hills of West Pennsylginia, so the Yinzers are otherwise occupied.
Browns Championships !!!!!!!!
Cheatroids Championships******
Doug
They'll be back. I think it's Incest Season in the hills of West Pennsylginia, so the Yinzers are otherwise occupied.
Browns Championships !!!!!!!!
Cheatroids Championships******
Doug
I would score it more like this....
Browns championships: ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Steelers championships: * * * * ! !
You can't blame the refs for bad calls, but you can blame steroids.
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I wonder if the Squeelroids will ever win a championship without cheating?
I wonder if the Squeelroids will ever win a championship without cheating?
lol...Hilarious , Cant believe this Total BS drags on !! Are we trying to Make it last the Whole off season ?
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Whether it be a pocket full of cash to the refs or a turkey baster full of HGH or anabolic steroids up the ass of every player on the team that lead to early deaths of all their earlier players cheating happened.
The BROWNS WON their championships by being the BEST and most innovation at the time, not short cutting.
Deal with it.
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It's pretty cut and dry at this point.
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How is it possible for some of you people to get anymore rediculous? Where was the maturity in taking down my post that tried to put an end to this crap. Its obvious, for whatever reason, you poeple really want this thread to go on. I don't know that there is any hope for some of you people to ever come to reallity. Not that anyone already over here wants you guys over here anyways.
"Hatred is gained as much by good works as by evil" - Niccolo Machiavelli "Expectation is the root of all heartache." - William Shakespeare "In time we hate that which we often fear. " - William Shakespeare "I DO ROIDS ... and GIVE HEAD" - ATENEARS http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=16312 http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06166/698372-66.stm Friday said, "posters on Internet message boards hide behind their keyboards and write things they would never have the courage to say aloud in public. He said posters who write tasteless messages use football and the rivalries between teams as a way of getting out their aggression in a non-violent manner." Predicted 2010 Steelers record from this board: 7-9; 6-10; 8-8; 9-7; 10-6 -
How is it possible for some of you people to get anymore rediculous? Where was the maturity in taking down my post that tried to put an end to this crap. Its obvious, for whatever reason, you poeple really want this thread to go on. I don't know that there is any hope for some of you people to ever come to reallity. Not that anyone already over here wants you guys over here anyways.
Sivlerback DPOY said:
How is it possible for some of you people to get anymore rediculous? Where was the maturity in taking down my post that tried to put an end to this crap. Its obvious, for whatever reason, you poeple really want this thread to go on. I don't know that there is any hope for some of you people to ever come to reallity. Not that anyone already over here wants you guys over here anyways.I'm sorry, you are correct.
Hey, I was thinking about doing a cycle. Can you hook me up?
Thanks Steeler buddy.
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