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  • gumby73G gumby73

    Crow hits a hole with no dance moves.I don't think this new line can open one that quick. Our best back tandem is Crow and West,would love to see it if pettine stops luvin the player and start luvin the talent.

    Opal312O Opal312 wrote on
    #31

    @gumby73 said:

    Crow hits a hole with no dance moves.I don't think this new line can open one that quick. Our best back tandem is Crow and West,would love to see it if pettine stops luvin the player and start luvin the talent.

    You said a mouth full. With West and Crowell the one-two punch would wear a defense down.

    DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!
  • Opal312O Opal312 wrote on
    #32

    Here's hoping Crowell has a good game and our running game comes back. I like all three and would use them. When you don't have a mobile quarterback you need the backs. Go Browns!!

    DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!
  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    Won't matter how fresh his legs are if the line can't run block.

    jcam222J jcam222 wrote on
    #33

    @tiamat63 said:

    Won't matter how fresh his legs are if the line can't run block.

    It apparently matters, he is ripping off chunk yardage. If he can protect the ball he is by far the best back we have period.

  • jcam222J jcam222

    @tiamat63 said:

    Won't matter how fresh his legs are if the line can't run block.

    It apparently matters, he is ripping off chunk yardage. If he can protect the ball he is by far the best back we have period.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #34

    @jcam222 said:

    It apparently matters, he is ripping off chunk yardage. If he can protect the ball he is by far the best back we have period.

    If...

    The line created creases, if not holes. All the backs performed well. None stood out on the stat sheet, but Crow is undeniably the flashiest runner, but the least complete.

    He's also still the #3...

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  • mohicanM mohican wrote on
    #35

    Ben Tate looked slow in comparison to the Baby Backs. Crowell needs to develope ball security.

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  • mohicanM mohican

    Ben Tate looked slow in comparison to the Baby Backs. Crowell needs to develope ball security.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #36

    @mohican said:

    Ben Tate looked slow in comparison to the Baby Backs.

    On some plays... yes... but much has to do on whether there's somewhere to run. Case in point look at Tate's run near the goal line. Hit the middle hard and fast.

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  • C Clevfan4life wrote on
    #37

    Our RB's are gonna be an issue next year. I don't see us able to keep all 3, which sucks...cause I have no idea who is the low man among them. It literally changes every week. All the guys looked pretty good last night, but then again our line utterly fisted the Bengals. West did look good though, 2nd straight game for him...maybe he's separating I dunno. Crowell looks wild to me, runs like he's gonna fall down at any minute. On some runs it's awesome, on others I think it fucks up his timing.

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  • C Clevfan4life

    Our RB's are gonna be an issue next year. I don't see us able to keep all 3, which sucks...cause I have no idea who is the low man among them. It literally changes every week. All the guys looked pretty good last night, but then again our line utterly fisted the Bengals. West did look good though, 2nd straight game for him...maybe he's separating I dunno. Crowell looks wild to me, runs like he's gonna fall down at any minute. On some runs it's awesome, on others I think it fucks up his timing.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #38

    @clevfan4life said:

    Our RB's are gonna be an issue next year. I don't see us able to keep all 3...

    Why not?

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  • C Clevfan4life

    Our RB's are gonna be an issue next year. I don't see us able to keep all 3, which sucks...cause I have no idea who is the low man among them. It literally changes every week. All the guys looked pretty good last night, but then again our line utterly fisted the Bengals. West did look good though, 2nd straight game for him...maybe he's separating I dunno. Crowell looks wild to me, runs like he's gonna fall down at any minute. On some runs it's awesome, on others I think it fucks up his timing.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #39

    @clevfan4life said:

    Our RB's are gonna be an issue next year. I don't see us able to keep all 3, which sucks...cause I have no idea who is the low man among them. It literally changes every week. All the guys looked pretty good last night, but then again our line utterly fisted the Bengals. West did look good though, 2nd straight game for him...maybe he's separating I dunno. Crowell looks wild to me, runs like he's gonna fall down at any minute. On some runs it's awesome, on others I think it fucks up his timing.

    Crowell is a UDFA, West a 3rd round pick....both will be under contract. The only "difficulty" could be Ben Tate because...perhaps....he will be a FA again. I am not sure of his contract status.....1 year deal only?

    I don't see it being a big issue. If Tate is not here, then the Browns go with West/Crowell. If he is here, there is no issue.

  • ManzierM Manzier wrote on
    #40

    They are all under contract next year(Tate signed for 2 yrs).

  • ManzierM Manzier

    They are all under contract next year(Tate signed for 2 yrs).

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #41

    @manzier said:

    They are all under contract next year(Tate signed for 2 yrs).

    Yup... thru 2015... and Crow thru 2016 and West thru 2017.

    Only issue I see is we do not have a "home run" threat on our roster. Plenty of quicks, but no burner that looks capable of taking it to the house.

    Similarly none appear to be true, "beast mode" types... with Crow coming the closest.

    All are kinda the same with differences in their make-up, but the differences are not so great that you could not throw a blanket over them.

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  • The Cysko KidT The Cysko Kid wrote on
    #42

    Where is Crowell? In the end zone

    This shit ain't nothing to me, man.
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @manzier said:

    They are all under contract next year(Tate signed for 2 yrs).

    Yup... thru 2015... and Crow thru 2016 and West thru 2017.

    Only issue I see is we do not have a "home run" threat on our roster. Plenty of quicks, but no burner that looks capable of taking it to the house.

    Similarly none appear to be true, "beast mode" types... with Crow coming the closest.

    All are kinda the same with differences in their make-up, but the differences are not so great that you could not throw a blanket over them.

    ManzierM Manzier wrote on
    #43

    @tour2ma said:

    Yup... thru 2015... and Crow thru 2016 and West thru 2017.

    Only issue I see is we do not have a "home run" threat on our roster. Plenty of quicks, but no burner that looks capable of taking it to the house.

    Similarly none appear to be true, "beast mode" types... with Crow coming the closest.

    All are kinda the same with differences in their make-up, but the differences are not so great that you could not throw a blanket over them.

    And I think we need 3 backs and will probably keep them another year. Gotta have 2 ready each game and the injury to Tate shows how quick they can go down. BUT, if Winston is as good as some think, then maybe one becomes expendable and can be trade bait at draft time. The only one I see as being valuable(trade wise) is West, who I think could get a 2nd rounder. Dont think Tate(and his 1 yr contract) or Crowell would pull anything close to that though.

    Personally, West looks like the best one right now. Would hate to see him go.

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  • IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on
    #44

    I'm glad we got all 3, really. Heading into the second half of the season, and dare l say playoffs, it'll be great to have 3 solid rushers with plenty of tread left.

  • ManzierM Manzier

    @tour2ma said:

    Yup... thru 2015... and Crow thru 2016 and West thru 2017.

    Only issue I see is we do not have a "home run" threat on our roster. Plenty of quicks, but no burner that looks capable of taking it to the house.

    Similarly none appear to be true, "beast mode" types... with Crow coming the closest.

    All are kinda the same with differences in their make-up, but the differences are not so great that you could not throw a blanket over them.

    And I think we need 3 backs and will probably keep them another year. Gotta have 2 ready each game and the injury to Tate shows how quick they can go down. BUT, if Winston is as good as some think, then maybe one becomes expendable and can be trade bait at draft time. The only one I see as being valuable(trade wise) is West, who I think could get a 2nd rounder. Dont think Tate(and his 1 yr contract) or Crowell would pull anything close to that though.

    Personally, West looks like the best one right now. Would hate to see him go.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #45

    @manzier said:

    And I think we need 3 backs and will probably keep them another year. Gotta have 2 ready each game and the injury to Tate shows how quick they can go down. BUT, if Winston is as good as some think, then maybe one becomes expendable and can be trade bait at draft time. The only one I see as being valuable(trade wise) is West, who I think could get a 2nd rounder. Dont think Tate(and his 1 yr contract) or Crowell would pull anything close to that though.

    Personally, West looks like the best one right now. Would hate to see him go.

    Agree completely... would only add to your analytical mix 2015 prospects TBD...

    Lotta good tape on our two rooks increases the chance of some team out there sees a member of our "committee" as a potential, feature back for them. It could get interesting.

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @manzier said:

    They are all under contract next year(Tate signed for 2 yrs).

    Yup... thru 2015... and Crow thru 2016 and West thru 2017.

    Only issue I see is we do not have a "home run" threat on our roster. Plenty of quicks, but no burner that looks capable of taking it to the house.

    Similarly none appear to be true, "beast mode" types... with Crow coming the closest.

    All are kinda the same with differences in their make-up, but the differences are not so great that you could not throw a blanket over them.

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on
    #46

    @tour2ma said:

    Yup... thru 2015... and Crow thru 2016 and West thru 2017.

    Only issue I see is we do not have a "home run" threat on our roster. Plenty of quicks, but no burner that looks capable of taking it to the house.

    Similarly none appear to be true, "beast mode" types... with Crow coming the closest.

    All are kinda the same with differences in their make-up, but the differences are not so great that you could not throw a blanket over them.

    I disagree. I think Crow and Tate have enough open field speed to take it the distance after they've cleared contact. Do I consider them "burners"? No.

    Then again, most of the top backs in the NFL don't have elite track speed either.

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  • slowburnS slowburn wrote on
    #47

    petine got his head right.....the kid looked fucking awesome last night. you better check your shit for a head on with this beast

    Browns physically pummeled the homers last night

  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    @tour2ma said:

    Yup... thru 2015... and Crow thru 2016 and West thru 2017.

    Only issue I see is we do not have a "home run" threat on our roster. Plenty of quicks, but no burner that looks capable of taking it to the house.

    Similarly none appear to be true, "beast mode" types... with Crow coming the closest.

    All are kinda the same with differences in their make-up, but the differences are not so great that you could not throw a blanket over them.

    I disagree. I think Crow and Tate have enough open field speed to take it the distance after they've cleared contact. Do I consider them "burners"? No.

    Then again, most of the top backs in the NFL don't have elite track speed either.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #48

    @tiamat63 said:

    I disagree. I think Crow and Tate have enough open field speed to take it the distance after they've cleared contact. Do I consider them "burners"? No.

    Then again, most of the top backs in the NFL don't have elite track speed either.

    Were we in court I'd object due to "facts not in evidence".

    West has our longest run at 29 followed by Tate at 25 and Crow at 24.

    But I'll stipulate that none have yet been in the clear... and the past is no guarantee of future performance

    Out of Auburn Tate was "a burner" running in the low 4.3's... but the NFL takes a toll.

    West is a low 4.5er at best... Crow an upper 4.5er.

    I knew all my hours of "Law & Order" viewing would pay off someday...

    Just don't see a game breaker in the bunch, but I'd be happy to be wrong...

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  • tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on
    #49

    I believe you won't find the 40 times of AP, Foster, Forte, Lynch, Martin, Lacy, Bell, Morris & Gore to be overly impressive either.

    The bulk of top 15 running backs in the NFL have 40 times ranging from 4.45-4.6. Notable speed merchants being Jamaal Charles, Reggie Bush, and Shady.

    "Home run threat" Running backs (in terms of speed) are an extreme rarity. Most NFL teams want a back that can punish between the tackles, be reliable out of the backfield and

    either run over or by LB's. That certainly isn't Charles, Bush or Shady.

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  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #50

    Jim Brown had the talent of all those guys and more in one package. He was both a punisher between the tackles and a home run threat......but then he is the best there ever was so it is unfair to compare others to him. So was Leroy Kelly. But it would be nice to have someone like that. The Child Abuser is the closest we come these days in the NFL.

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