First Rounders vs Rest of the World
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Another big thing - I struggled to find elite O-linemen outside the first round.
How far back do you want to go? These alone were 5th rounders or lower
Gene Hickerson 7th round
Dan Fortmann 9th round
Jim Ringo 7th round
Mike Webster 5th round
All HOF. rounds 2-4:
Stan Jones
Mike MacCormack
Bob St. Clair
Art Shell
Jackie Slater
Russ Grimm
Forrest Gregg
Billy Shaw
Dan Dierdorf
Dwight Stephenson
Dermonti Dawson
Larry Allen
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Another big thing - I struggled to find elite O-linemen outside the first round.
How far back do you want to go? These alone were 5th rounders or lower
Gene Hickerson 7th round
Dan Fortmann 9th round
Jim Ringo 7th round
Mike Webster 5th round
All HOF. rounds 2-4:
Stan Jones
Mike MacCormack
Bob St. Clair
Art Shell
Jackie Slater
Russ Grimm
Forrest Gregg
Billy Shaw
Dan Dierdorf
Dwight Stephenson
Dermonti Dawson
Larry Allen
Another big thing - I struggled to find elite O-linemen outside the first round.
How far back do you want to go?
All the players are currently active (I believe). I'm sure you can make an all-time non-first round team, but the point was to compare the depth of talent available in any given draft, so it's time dependent. All-time, you can probably come up with two teams that are inseparable.
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Nice list. Enjoyed it. Some truly monster players there.
And, as we also know, a lot of high picks wouldn't make that list. Haha. Putting it lightly.
So Ill add my list of players, but all were top 2 picks. And not top 2 rounds. These are top 2 overall. So, every player on my list MUST have been a "sure shot" "slam dunk" "cant miss" kind of player. I remember many of these guys being touted as the best everrrrrrrr to come out. Hahahaha
There were a few positions(TE, CB & S) that have never been selected #1 or #2. So, I picked the highest I could find. Here we gooooo:
Name - overall pick # - # of pro bowls:
QB:
Jamarcus Russell - #1 - 0
Ryan Leaf - #2 - 0
RB:
KiJana Carter - #1 - 0
Blair Thomas - #2 - 0
WR:
Charles Rogers - #2 - 0
Johnny Jones - #2 - 0
Larry Elkins - #1 - 0
TE:
Eric Ebron - #9
OT:
Tony Mandarich - #2 - 0
Robert Gallery - #2 - 0
OG:
D. Steinkuhler - #2 - 0
Leonard Davis - #2 - 0
Bob Johnson - #2 - 0
DE:
Courtney Brown - #1 - 0
Chris Long - #2 - 0
DT:
Dan Wilkinson - #1 - 0
Steve Emtman - #1 - 0
MLB:
Tom Cousineau - #1 - 0
Johnny Cooks - #2 - 0
OLB:
Aundrey Bruce - #1 - 0
Quentin Coryat - #2 - 0
SS/FS:
Michael Huff - #7 - 0
Stanley Richard - #9 - 0
CB:
Morris Claiborne - #6 - 0
Pacman Jones - #6 - 0
Extra fun trivia////At least 3 of these players were picked or traded for by the Browns.
(Cousineau/Courtney Brown are the only two on your list that played for the Browns...I don't see any others. Or did you leave out #1 Tim Couch?)
One of them(who?) we acquired with a draft pick that was later used to select what HOF quarterback?
Jim Kelly with the pick traded for Cousineau)
Nice list. Enjoyed it. Some truly monster players there.
And, as we also know, a lot of high picks wouldn't make that list. Haha. Putting it lightly.
So Ill add my list of players, but all were top 2 picks. And not top 2 rounds. These are top 2 overall. So, every player on my list MUST have been a "sure shot" "slam dunk" "cant miss" kind of player. I remember many of these guys being touted as the best everrrrrrrr to come out. Hahahaha
There were a few positions(TE, CB & S) that have never been selected #1 or #2. So, I picked the highest I could find. Here we gooooo:
Name - overall pick # - # of pro bowls:
QB:
Jamarcus Russell - #1 - 0
Ryan Leaf - #2 - 0
RB:
KiJana Carter - #1 - 0
Blair Thomas - #2 - 0
WR:
Charles Rogers - #2 - 0
Johnny Jones - #2 - 0
Larry Elkins - #1 - 0
TE:
Eric Ebron - #9
OT:
Tony Mandarich - #2 - 0
Robert Gallery - #2 - 0
OG:
D. Steinkuhler - #2 - 0
Leonard Davis - #2 - 0
Bob Johnson - #2 - 0
DE:
Courtney Brown - #1 - 0
Chris Long - #2 - 0
DT:
Dan Wilkinson - #1 - 0
Steve Emtman - #1 - 0
MLB:
Tom Cousineau - #1 - 0
Johnny Cooks - #2 - 0
OLB:
Aundrey Bruce - #1 - 0
Quentin Coryat - #2 - 0
SS/FS:
Michael Huff - #7 - 0
Stanley Richard - #9 - 0
CB:
Morris Claiborne - #6 - 0
Pacman Jones - #6 - 0
Extra fun trivia////At least 3 of these players were picked or traded for by the Browns.
(Cousineau/Courtney Brown are the only two on your list that played for the Browns...I don't see any others. Or did you leave out #1 Tim Couch?) No. You are correct, as I used the wrong wording. Johnnie Cooks also played for the Browns, BUT was not traded for or picked in the draft.
One of them(who?) we acquired with a draft pick that was later used to select what HOF quarterback?
Jim Kelly with the pick traded for Cousineau) Correct.
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I guess I don't remember much about Johnny Cooks playing for the Browns....but I'll check:
OK, according to this, Johnny Cooks played in exactly 2 games with the Browns in 1991, and didn't record a single tackle.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CookJo20.htm
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