Ohio State QB's suck Balls!
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When you think about maybe you could include the big ten in general as not having a lot of QB's that played good in the NFL. There is Brady and Brees of course. Bob Greise Sr. Going back 40 years it doesn't seem there have been alot. I'm not talking about backups coming in after the starter gets injured and plays a couple of games or finihing a season out, I'm talking legitimate Starters.
When you think about maybe you could include the big ten in general as not having a lot of QB's that played good in the NFL. There is Brady and Brees of course. Bob Greise Sr. Going back 40 years it doesn't seem there have been alot. I'm not talking about backups coming in after the starter gets injured and plays a couple of games or finihing a season out, I'm talking legitimate Starters.
The Big Ten has done as well or better than any other conference historically at producing QBs. Just not OSU. Here are the Hall of Famers ....and almost certain HOFers produced by the current lineup of Power 5 conferences:
Big Ten
Len Dawson Purdue
Bob Griese Purdue
Drew Brees Purdue
Otto Graham Northwestern
Tom Brady Michigan
SEC
George Blanda Kentucky
Joe Namath Alabama
Bart Starr Alabama
Fran Tarkenton Georgia
YA Tittle LSU
Peyton Manning Tennessee
Pac-12
Troy Aikman UCLA
Bob Waterfield UCLA
John Elway Stanford
Dan Fouts Oregon
Norm Van Brocklin Oregon
Warren Moon Washington
ACC:
Sonny Jurgenson Duke
Jim Kelly Miami
Dan Marino Pitt
Johnny Unitas Louisville
....big maybe: Rivers NC St.?
Big 12
Bobby Layne Texas
Independents and smaller schools:
Joe Montana Notre Dame
Terry Bradshaw La. Tech
Roger Staubach Navy
Steve Young BYU
Ben Roethlisberger Miami Oh.
Brett Favre So. Miss.
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You forgot Brian Hoyer Mich St
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
You forgot Jim harbaugh, 78.
Also, maybe we'll get to add Denard to that list in a season or two...
Anyway, (removing the guy that played HB), that would mean Michigans top 4 QBs are higher than OSUs highest.
But, all of this aside, the point I was making was I felt your assertion that OSU doesn't have alot of hugh producing QBs on that list because they "are not trained in the NFL fashion" is not really legitimate. Unless OSU has been a run spread for a lot longer than I thought.... But even then, we get NFL QBs from those systems.
You forgot Jim harbaugh, 78.
Right. I missed him...not sure how.
Also, maybe we'll get to add Denard to that list in a season or two...
He doesn't play QB in the NFL, does he?
Anyway, (removing the guy that played HB), that would mean Michigans top 4 QBs are higher than OSUs highest.
Grbac and Griese had careers about the same as Tomscak.....but definitely Harbaugh and Brady have been better.
But, all of this aside, the point I was making was I felt your assertion that OSU doesn't have alot of hugh producing QBs on that list because they "are not trained in the NFL fashion" is not really legitimate. Unless OSU has been a run spread for a lot longer than I thought.... But even then, we get NFL QBs from those systems.
OSU HAS run the spread or something like it a lot longer than you thought (option QBs). Going back to Rex Kern and Cornelius Greene, Rod Gerald. Even Herbstreit was primarily an option QB, Stanley Jackson. Even Craig Krenzel....if you recall the championship game he won, he did a lot of it with his legs. And lately, Smith, Pryor, Miller, Barrett.....all as much run oriented as pass oriented.
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You forgot Brian Hoyer Mich St
You expect to make the HOF, eh? Cute.
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Ohio State has had its attempts at having 'pro style" QBs start for them......Schlichter, Greg Frey, Jim Karsatos, Tupa, Kent Graham, Hoying, Tomscak.
The fact is, that sort of QB has not had as much success for them as the more running QBs. And those guys did not translate into successful pros....with the limited exception of Tomscak.
In the early 70s Michigan had their better success with "option" type QBs with Dennis Franklin and Rick Leach. But then they went to the "pro style" guys for a long long time with the likes of Steve Smith, John Wangler, Harbaugh, Michael Taylor, Harbaugh, Collins, Griese, Brady, Henson, Navarre, and Henne. Recently with Robinson and Gardner they have gone back to a more running/option/spread type of game.
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I would think there's a difference between a run first spread option QB and a QB that can also hurt you with his legs. I'm guessing NFL types know this.
Also, I mentioned Denard as a "what if" because of the first guy you listed that was mostly a HB
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I would think there's a difference between a run first spread option QB and a QB that can also hurt you with his legs. I'm guessing NFL types know this.
Also, I mentioned Denard as a "what if" because of the first guy you listed that was mostly a HB
I would think there's a difference between a run first spread option QB and a QB that can also hurt you with his legs. I'm guessing NFL types know this.
Also, I mentioned Denard as a "what if" because of the first guy you listed that was mostly a HB
While Matte was primarily a HB, he did occasionally start at QB. ( I doubt that Robinson will ever start an NFL game at QB) In fact, Matte famously started at QB in a post season game for the Colts. Johnny Unitas was hurt, backup Gary Cuozzo was hurt, so Matte had to start at QB for the Colts vs. the Packers. Here is the famous wristband that he wore that day which can be seen in the PFHOF:
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I remember watching a special about that on NFL Network. And I saw it in Canton.
No, the Jags would have to have some crazy shit happen at QB for Denard to play. There was a much better chance of something like that happening decades ago.
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Compare this list: Purdue
Drew Brees 134
Len Dawson 110
Bob Griese 104
Jim Everett 87
Jeff George 65
Gary Danielson 48
Mike Phipps 40
Kyle Orton 34
Mark Hermann 11
Scott Campbell 8
Curtis Painter 2
Mark Stevens 1
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I know Purdue is better lol
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You forgot Jim harbaugh, 78.
Also, maybe we'll get to add Denard to that list in a season or two...
Anyway, (removing the guy that played HB), that would mean Michigans top 4 QBs are higher than OSUs highest.
But, all of this aside, the point I was making was I felt your assertion that OSU doesn't have alot of hugh producing QBs on that list because they "are not trained in the NFL fashion" is not really legitimate. Unless OSU has been a run spread for a lot longer than I thought.... But even then, we get NFL QBs from those systems.
You forgot Jim harbaugh, 78.
Also, maybe we'll get to add Denard to that list in a season or two...
Anyway, (removing the guy that played HB), that would mean Michigans top 4 QBs are higher than OSUs highest.
But, all of this aside, the point I was making was I felt your assertion that OSU doesn't have alot of hugh producing QBs on that list because they "are not trained in the NFL fashion" is not really legitimate. Unless OSU has been a run spread for a lot longer than I thought.... But even then, we get NFL QBs from those systems.
Denard Robinson will never play a snap as a qb in the nfl. For as much as you suck that guys balls he's terrible
This shit ain't nothing to me, man. -
You forgot Jim harbaugh, 78.
Also, maybe we'll get to add Denard to that list in a season or two...
Anyway, (removing the guy that played HB), that would mean Michigans top 4 QBs are higher than OSUs highest.
But, all of this aside, the point I was making was I felt your assertion that OSU doesn't have alot of hugh producing QBs on that list because they "are not trained in the NFL fashion" is not really legitimate. Unless OSU has been a run spread for a lot longer than I thought.... But even then, we get NFL QBs from those systems.
Denard Robinson will never play a snap as a qb in the nfl. For as much as you suck that guys balls he's terrible
Denard Robinson will never play a snap as a qb in the nfl. For as much as you suck that guys balls he's terrible
I would bet he will take a snap at QB, They will run some gadget trick WildDawg stuff with him. But they better not let him throw. As he's an awful thrower of the ball.
It will take some serious injuries for him to start an NFL game. No matter what team he plays for
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
You forgot Jim harbaugh, 78.
Also, maybe we'll get to add Denard to that list in a season or two...
Anyway, (removing the guy that played HB), that would mean Michigans top 4 QBs are higher than OSUs highest.
But, all of this aside, the point I was making was I felt your assertion that OSU doesn't have alot of hugh producing QBs on that list because they "are not trained in the NFL fashion" is not really legitimate. Unless OSU has been a run spread for a lot longer than I thought.... But even then, we get NFL QBs from those systems.
Denard Robinson will never play a snap as a qb in the nfl. For as much as you suck that guys balls he's terrible
Denard Robinson will never play a snap as a qb in the nfl. For as much as you suck that guys balls he's terrible
..... I never said he'd play as a QB. Look at Gippers OSU list.bit included a guy that was basically a HB. That's why I mentioned. Calm down
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Denard Robinson will never play a snap as a qb in the nfl. For as much as you suck that guys balls he's terrible
I would bet he will take a snap at QB, They will run some gadget trick WildDawg stuff with him. But they better not let him throw. As he's an awful thrower of the ball.
It will take some serious injuries for him to start an NFL game. No matter what team he plays for
I would bet he will take a snap at QB, They will run some gadget trick WildDawg stuff with him. But they better not let him throw. As he's an awful thrower of the ball.
It will take some serious injuries for him to start an NFL game. No matter what team he plays for
He has taken a few WildDawg snaps, but usually the Jags fuck it up and blocking immediately disappears. Those were all last year. I think he attempted one this year but had no time to throw. He's a HB now though. Their starter.
He's not a terrible thrower, he had his moments in college. He us by no means an NFL QB though
Yes, the Jags would have to have every active QB in one gm get hurt. Very unlikely (though I'd love to see it, even I it will 98% go poorly)
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When you think about maybe you could include the big ten in general as not having a lot of QB's that played good in the NFL. There is Brady and Brees of course. Bob Greise Sr. Going back 40 years it doesn't seem there have been alot. I'm not talking about backups coming in after the starter gets injured and plays a couple of games or finihing a season out, I'm talking legitimate Starters.
The Big Ten has done as well or better than any other conference historically at producing QBs. Just not OSU. Here are the Hall of Famers ....and almost certain HOFers produced by the current lineup of Power 5 conferences:
Big Ten
Len Dawson Purdue
Bob Griese Purdue
Drew Brees Purdue
Otto Graham Northwestern
Tom Brady Michigan
SEC
George Blanda Kentucky
Joe Namath Alabama
Bart Starr Alabama
Fran Tarkenton Georgia
YA Tittle LSU
Peyton Manning Tennessee
Pac-12
Troy Aikman UCLA
Bob Waterfield UCLA
John Elway Stanford
Dan Fouts Oregon
Norm Van Brocklin Oregon
Warren Moon Washington
ACC:
Sonny Jurgenson Duke
Jim Kelly Miami
Dan Marino Pitt
Johnny Unitas Louisville
....big maybe: Rivers NC St.?
Big 12
Bobby Layne Texas
Independents and smaller schools:
Joe Montana Notre Dame
Terry Bradshaw La. Tech
Roger Staubach Navy
Steve Young BYU
Ben Roethlisberger Miami Oh.
Brett Favre So. Miss.
The Big Ten has done as well or better than any other conference historically at producing QBs. Just not OSU. Here are the Hall of Famers ....and almost certain HOFers produced by the current lineup of Power 5 conferences:
Big Ten
Len Dawson Purdue
Bob Griese Purdue
Drew Brees Purdue
Otto Graham Northwestern
Tom Brady Michigan
SEC
George Blanda Kentucky
Joe Namath Alabama
Bart Starr Alabama
Fran Tarkenton Georgia
YA Tittle LSU
Peyton Manning Tennessee
Pac-12
Troy Aikman UCLA
Bob Waterfield UCLA
John Elway Stanford
Dan Fouts Oregon
Norm Van Brocklin Oregon
Warren Moon Washington
ACC:
Sonny Jurgenson Duke
Jim Kelly Miami
Dan Marino Pitt
Johnny Unitas Louisville
....big maybe: Rivers NC St.?
Big 12
Bobby Layne Texas
Independents and smaller schools:
Joe Montana Notre Dame
Terry Bradshaw La. Tech
Roger Staubach Navy
Steve Young BYU
Ben Roethlisberger Miami Oh.
Brett Favre So. Mis s.
Nice post there Gipper. Going back 50 years there appears not to be a lot of "great QB's". OHio State at least sent a lot to the pro's.
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i guess the QB can suck balls when your team is great......dickhead.
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