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  • B browns52 wrote on
    #19

    VesnaKociper said:

    The DRIVE was not the worst thing ever. Elway's Drive only tied the game. It was Bernie Kosar who single-handedly lost that game.

    You go ahead and watch the film. The Browns WON the toss, and got the ball first. Kosar, who was great at coming from behind, was, IMHO a total coward when he had a lead or the game was tied. If you watch the film you will see the Denver players making fun of Kosar and chanting over and over " he's playing not to lose -we're going to win, he's playing not to lose"!

    Kosar was a jackoff and a coward that day. I don't want to hear your bullshit about Marty, Marty coached a great game and the Browns were the better team. You can't blame the D for being gassed on the Drive. Marty had nothing to do with this shit.

    I hear all the time about Bernie being the smartest QB in football, and how his audible skills were better than anyone else. Well, I don't give a shit what plays Marty sent out to him, Kosar was faggot that day. He dropped his pants, bent over and asked Elway to cornhole him. Elway didn't deflate the football. That game was a heartbreaker, but it was Kosar's to win. It was his opportunity of a lifetime; a defining moment.

    Kosar could have elevated himself to the level of Marino, Fouts, Stabler, Elway, Staubach and many other greats. Instead? Around the NFL fans think of him in the class of Testeverde, O'Donell, and Bledsoe.

    "He's playing not to lose" _ That is Kosar's legacy.

    i would not call bernie a coward, however i do believe if kosar was calling the plays on that overtime possesion, he fucked up...i totally agree, i knew when it was 3rd down and he handed the ball to fotenot and fontenot got blasted the game was over....i could not believe kosar did not pass, it was his moment and he failed..i cannot recall the first 2 plays before the 3rd down screwup...however if marty called the play from the sidelines, then it was marty's fault and not bernies...never heard anything about who called that boneheaded play...

  • OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on
    #20

    I always liked Marty but he got treated even worse by the Chargers when they fired him after an 14-2 regular season record.

  • MudflyM Mudfly wrote on
    #21

    I kinda liked him too...a good solid, though sometimes stubborn, coach ......

    very nice guy, but square as they come....and he had that gleem...

  • Z Zombo wrote on
    #22

    Brady's Ball Sack said:

    OJ...

    The good old days. Reminds me of way back to the Cleveland Browns made it to a Super Bowl....oh wait.. Sorry... ...fumbled on the one.. and never recovered.

    Dude, quit trolling Browns threads.

    NFL Championships:

    Browns 4

    Bills 0

    Throats slashed:

    OJ 2

    JB 0

    Zombo

  • Z Zombo

    Brady's Ball Sack said:

    OJ...

    The good old days. Reminds me of way back to the Cleveland Browns made it to a Super Bowl....oh wait.. Sorry... ...fumbled on the one.. and never recovered.

    Dude, quit trolling Browns threads.

    NFL Championships:

    Browns 4

    Bills 0

    Throats slashed:

    OJ 2

    JB 0

    Zombo

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #23

    Zombo said:

    Dude, quit trolling Browns threads.

    NFL Championships:

    Browns 4

    Bills 0

    Throats slashed:

    OJ 2

    JB 0

    Zombo

    And then there is this. 1948 Championship game. Check it out:

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/194812190cle.htm

  • MudflyM Mudfly wrote on
    #24

    and.....add the fact that the BILLS have the longest current playoff drought in the league.....not since 1999.......

    I think Bills fan has given up trying to fit in and just gone full blown troll now.......

    👍
  • Z Zombo wrote on
    #25

    Speaking of playoffs, we played them once. This happened:

  • MudflyM Mudfly wrote on
    #26

    THAT was a great game!....Clay Mathews.slammed the door on Jim Kelly.....twas SWEET!!!!!

    And Bruce Smith, as he walks off the field, is like listen to all these fans....holy ker AP!

  • OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on
    #27

    Looking forward to seeing that kind of excitement with the Browns again. I think we are close but I am the eternal optimist with this club.

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #28

    Brady's Ball Sack said:

    Zero championships..

    Cleveland area has 13 championships....'20, 22, 23, 24, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 54, 55, 64

    Buffalo has 2. '64, 65.

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  • Z Zombo wrote on
    #29

    Brady's Ball Sack said:

    Zero championships..

    ???????

  • Z Zombo wrote on
    #30

    Brady's Ball Sack said:

    And then what....

    Bills got on the bus and cried?

    Zombo

  • gftChrisG gftChris

    This was on TV here? Damn, missed that, what channel?

    L LondonBrown wrote on
    #31

    @gftchris said:

    This was on TV here? Damn, missed that, what channel?

    Sky Sports 3, been lots of old footage on and what they're calling "gold" matches in the build up to SB.

    Zombo said:

    This miss is at :57.

    Zombo

    They didn't show that, my god that looks wide for sure.

  • L LondonBrown wrote on
    #32

    It was the first I'd seen of Kosar too, he could float a ball beautifully. Very accurate.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    Brady's Ball Sack said:

    Zero championships..

    Cleveland area has 13 championships....'20, 22, 23, 24, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 54, 55, 64

    Buffalo has 2. '64, 65.

    L larryfine wrote on
    #33

    @the-gipper said:

    Cleveland area has 13 championships....'20, 22, 23, 24, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 54, 55, 64

    Buffalo has 2. '64, 65.

    Does this include High school and pee wee titles?

  • L larryfine

    @the-gipper said:

    Cleveland area has 13 championships....'20, 22, 23, 24, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 54, 55, 64

    Buffalo has 2. '64, 65.

    Does this include High school and pee wee titles?

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #34

    @larryfine said:

    Does this include High school and pee wee titles?

    National Football League and Cleveland Browns titles.

    You have heard of the National Football League? And you have heard of the Cleveland Browns?

    (though I suspect you are probably a Steeler fan....so it is 50/50 on whether you can count to 13...at least not without taking your shoes off)

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @larryfine said:

    Does this include High school and pee wee titles?

    National Football League and Cleveland Browns titles.

    You have heard of the National Football League? And you have heard of the Cleveland Browns?

    (though I suspect you are probably a Steeler fan....so it is 50/50 on whether you can count to 13...at least not without taking your shoes off)

    Browns149B Browns149 wrote on
    #35

    @the-gipper said:

    National Football League and Cleveland Browns titles.

    You have heard of the National Football League? And you have heard of the Cleveland Browns?

    (though I suspect you are probably a Steeler fan....so it is 50/50 on whether you can count to 13...at least not without taking your shoes off)

    he must be a stoolers fan, they think football started in 1970

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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