Rumor: Browns interested in trading up for Mariota
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Answer C
Brian Hoyer, assuming he's not at Chuck E Cheese with his wife and kids.
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Who's more likely to spend their downtime studying the art of playing QB then partying?
A - MM
B - JW
Who's more likely to spend their downtime studying the art of playing QB then partying?
A - MM
B - JW
There once was another 6'5" rushing quarterback who was one of the most humble, studious players to ever wear an NFL jersey. His teammates often called him "Coach", that's how much he studied the game. He kept a journal where he diagnosed every game immediately thereafter, basically debriefing himself on coverages, blitzes, etc. One writer even described him as having "all the equipment needed to fit in the modern NFL quarterback toolbox. He's 6-feet-6 and weighs 235 pounds. As Don Coryell often said, 'he runs like a deer.' He has plenty of arm. He's smart. He comes from a great background. He has a wonderful personality. He's a leader."
This guy studied the game all day every day and ended up being the highest drafted quarterback by the Bill Belichick Patriots.
That guy was Kevin O' Connell, he's now our QB coach. He had a real stellar career.
This just in- you're still a dumb fucking racist.
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Oh relax tcpo, I thought he was taking a shot at Johnny. Everybody hates him for partying. And who is white.
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Oh relax tcpo, I thought he was taking a shot at Johnny. Everybody hates him for partying. And who is white.
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Oh relax tcpo, I thought he was taking a shot at Johnny. Everybody hates him for partying. And who is white.
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Those initials he labeled would indicate a comparison between Marcus Mariota and Jameis Winston.
And this moron has already pulled the race card once before by saying he was surprised Winston didn't rob a KFC.
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I guess I missed that. I was thinking he meant of those two which one would be most likely to party and cause problems off the field. I think that would probably be Winston? From what I've heard Marcus Mariota is a choir boy and a work a holic which everyone here seems to want. Quite a few anyway. The reason I took it as a slight to Johnny is that that's the reason everyone has hated him since before the draft.
I have seen reports that Jameis Winston has put on a fair amount of weight recently and that in itself could be a red flag. But like the innuendo about Johnny I have no idea if those reports are bullshit or not.
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Answer C
Brian Hoyer, assuming he's not at Chuck E Cheese with his wife and kids.
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Answer C
Brian Hoyer, assuming he's not at Chuck E Cheese with his wife and kids.
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Chuck e cheese is a hell hole man. Taking the kids there is horrible.
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I guess I missed that. I was thinking he meant of those two which one would be most likely to party and cause problems off the field. I think that would probably be Winston? From what I've heard Marcus Mariota is a choir boy and a work a holic which everyone here seems to want. Quite a few anyway. The reason I took it as a slight to Johnny is that that's the reason everyone has hated him since before the draft.
I have seen reports that Jameis Winston has put on a fair amount of weight recently and that in itself could be a red flag. But like the innuendo about Johnny I have no idea if those reports are bullshit or not.
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I have seen reports that Jameis Winston has put on a fair amount of weight recently and that in itself could be a red flag. But like the innuendo about Johnny I have no idea if those reports are bullshit or not.
WSS
Too much butter on the crab legs prolly.

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Oh relax tcpo, I thought he was taking a shot at Johnny. Everybody hates him for partying. And who is white.
WSS
Those initials he labeled would indicate a comparison between Marcus Mariota and Jameis Winston.
And this moron has already pulled the race card once before by saying he was surprised Winston didn't rob a KFC.
Those initials he labeled would indicate a comparison between Marcus Mariota and Jameis Winston.
And this moron has already pulled the race card once before by saying he was surprised Winston didn't rob a KFC.
I was mistaken. I had confused master dog with bacon hound. My bad.
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Oh relax tcpo, I thought he was taking a shot at Johnny. Everybody hates him for partying. And who is white.
WSS
Those initials he labeled would indicate a comparison between Marcus Mariota and Jameis Winston.
And this moron has already pulled the race card once before by saying he was surprised Winston didn't rob a KFC.
Those initials he labeled would indicate a comparison between Marcus Mariota and Jameis Winston.
And this moron has already pulled the race card once before by saying he was surprised Winston didn't rob a KFC.
Difference between hyperbole, and being a racist. Winston's off-field issues have been well documented. He gets more grief because he's way higher profile. Example: no one talks about Armonty Bryant getting busted for selling weed, and a DUI- because he's not a Heisman winning qb.
MHO is we've just seen the tip of the iceberg at FSU. Massive coverup by not only the university, but the Talahasse PD too.
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Oh relax tcpo, I thought he was taking a shot at Johnny. Everybody hates him for partying. And who is white.
WSS
Those initials he labeled would indicate a comparison between Marcus Mariota and Jameis Winston.
And this moron has already pulled the race card once before by saying he was surprised Winston didn't rob a KFC.
Those initials he labeled would indicate a comparison between Marcus Mariota and Jameis Winston.
And this moron has already pulled the race card once before by saying he was surprised Winston didn't rob a KFC.
Oh c'mon!
Why does robbing a KFC a racist remark? It's only racist because your guards are up and you are in full defense mode.
Let's be honest. You were wrong about Jonny last year when you told folks to brush aside his off field issues. Now you are telling us the same with Winston.. The fact is. He WAS CAUGHT STEALING.
Give us a focking break. You are the reason why this football team stinks. Dumb as fans that have no clue.
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Those initials he labeled would indicate a comparison between Marcus Mariota and Jameis Winston.
And this moron has already pulled the race card once before by saying he was surprised Winston didn't rob a KFC.
Oh c'mon!
Why does robbing a KFC a racist remark? It's only racist because your guards are up and you are in full defense mode.
Let's be honest. You were wrong about Jonny last year when you told folks to brush aside his off field issues. Now you are telling us the same with Winston.. The fact is. He WAS CAUGHT STEALING.
Give us a focking break. You are the reason why this football team stinks. Dumb as fans that have no clue.
You are the reason why this football team stinks. Dumb as fans that have no clue.
Shut the fuck up you "I know more than you" white knight dope.
The reason this football team stinks is because of Lerner, Savage, Policy, Davis, Romeo, Mangini, Kokinis, Banner, Lombardi, Holmgren, Shurmer, etc and every other asshole that's walked though the doors in Berea.
The fans are the ONLY thing this team has. If you can see that, you're a total fucktard.
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You are the reason why this football team stinks. Dumb as fans that have no clue.
Shut the fuck up you "I know more than you" white knight dope.
The reason this football team stinks is because of Lerner, Savage, Policy, Davis, Romeo, Mangini, Kokinis, Banner, Lombardi, Holmgren, Shurmer, etc and every other asshole that's walked though the doors in Berea.
The fans are the ONLY thing this team has. If you can see that, you're a total fucktard.
The fans are the ONLY thing this team has. If you can see that, you're a total fucktard.No, the smart fans are the ONLY thing this team has.

We can do away with the fans that wants to see ticket sales and a fancy trademark name (Johnny Football).
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Those initials he labeled would indicate a comparison between Marcus Mariota and Jameis Winston.
And this moron has already pulled the race card once before by saying he was surprised Winston didn't rob a KFC.
Oh c'mon!
Why does robbing a KFC a racist remark? It's only racist because your guards are up and you are in full defense mode.
Let's be honest. You were wrong about Jonny last year when you told folks to brush aside his off field issues. Now you are telling us the same with Winston.. The fact is. He WAS CAUGHT STEALING.
Give us a focking break. You are the reason why this football team stinks. Dumb as fans that have no clue.
Oh c'mon!
Why does robbing a KFC a racist remark? It's only racist because your guards are up and you are in full defense mode.
Let's be honest. You were wrong about Jonny last year when you told folks to brush aside his off field issues. Now you are telling us the same with Winston.. The fact is. He WAS CAUGHT STEALING.
Give us a focking break. You are the reason why this football team stinks. Dumb as fans that have no clue.
I also said that after he was drafted, because we were stuck with him.
I was high on Blake Bortles since September 2013. If you're going to try and flame, get your facts straight.
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WE SHOULD HAD BLEW OUR ENTIRE DRAFT ON TRADING FOR HIM!!!

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Are you sure?

Not anymore....
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TCPO, when did the evolution of your Mariota view happen and what exactly caused it? Great points on this thread.
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Even IF that strategy is correct - and I don't think it is: Washington is fucked for 5 years because they did exactly what you promote -
MARIOTA SUCKS.
The unproven assertion within every post on this thread is that Mariota is some kind of Brady, Luck, or Wilson - and frankly he is not. Mariota wouldn't beat Manziel in a battle this offseason. He simply is not accurate.
But keep ignoring reality because your agenda is "Fuck everything, throw the entire draft away to own a replacement-level QB!"
That is RISKY. And the only way it's worthwhile is twofold: One, does the reward match the actual risk.. and two, is the % chance that the reward will pay off greater than 50%?
Frankly, the chance that Mariota is a savior is 5% AT BEST.
The risk is that the D departures mean the D sucks even more in 2015 than 2014, the QB depth chart includes 2 guys who would lose to Billy Volek, the OL still has to start Turnstile Schwartz, we still have no WR, and we have only blocking TE's.
That's the future if the Browns employ your strategy. And the ONLY defense of that move is the unproven assertion that Mariota equals savior. You have ZERO PROOF that will actually materialize... just bizarre platitudes about "taking a shot."
How many super bowls did Ricky Williams win the Saints? How did that Herschel Walker trade work out for Minnesota? How's RG3 doing?
Show the number of times the Steelers have mortgaged their future for one player.
Show the number of times the Ravens have mortgaged their future for one player.
Why do you think the consistently great teams DO NOT do this?
Ouch! Dude has thrown more TD passes in half a game than Manziel's career.Even IF that strategy is correct - and I don't think it is: Washington is fucked for 5 years because they did exactly what you promote -
MARIOTA SUCKS.
The unproven assertion within every post on this thread is that Mariota is some kind of Brady, Luck, or Wilson - and frankly he is not. Mariota wouldn't beat Manziel in a battle this offseason. He simply is not accurate.
But keep ignoring reality because your agenda is "Fuck everything, throw the entire draft away to own a replacement-level QB!"
That is RISKY. And the only way it's worthwhile is twofold: One, does the reward match the actual risk.. and two, is the % chance that the reward will pay off greater than 50%?
Frankly, the chance that Mariota is a savior is 5% AT BEST.
The risk is that the D departures mean the D sucks even more in 2015 than 2014, the QB depth chart includes 2 guys who would lose to Billy Volek, the OL still has to start Turnstile Schwartz, we still have no WR, and we have only blocking TE's.
That's the future if the Browns employ your strategy. And the ONLY defense of that move is the unproven assertion that Mariota equals savior. You have ZERO PROOF that will actually materialize... just bizarre platitudes about "taking a shot."
How many super bowls did Ricky Williams win the Saints? How did that Herschel Walker trade work out for Minnesota? How's RG3 doing?
Show the number of times the Steelers have mortgaged their future for one player.
Show the number of times the Ravens have mortgaged their future for one player.
Why do you think the consistently great teams DO NOT do this?
Goes to show why we always get it wrong with the QB position.
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I should post another pic of baloney.

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