Former Bucs GM preferes Mariota over Winston at #1
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"It's a small piece of the evaluation," Senior Bowl executive director and former Cleveland Browns general manager Phil Savage told USA TODAY Sports in a text. "They (Winston and Fisher) go at it like that every day in practice and games.
Probably not a big deal. Just something hard not to see when the national cameras are spotlighting you.
"It's a small piece of the evaluation," Senior Bowl executive director and former Cleveland Browns general manager Phil Savage told USA TODAY Sports in a text. "They (Winston and Fisher) go at it like that every day in practice and games.
Probably not a big deal. Just something hard not to see when the national cameras are spotlighting you.
To a certain extent, I kind of like it. It's better than always saying "yes, coach". Friction creates fire. I think its about time we had a little fire from a QB.
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Lol...maybe that's why he is the "former" GM.
I think Winston will have a better career if he screws his head on straight.
He's the former GM because he couldn't get along with Greg Schiano and that entire franchise essentially blew up because of it.
He may have drafted Freeman, but he also drafted Gerald McCoy, Adrian Clayborn, Da'Quan Bowers, Mark Barron, Doug Martin, Lavonte David and signed Jamon Meredith, Carl Nicks, Vincent Jackson. He seems to follow the exact strategy that many on here are harping about - build from the interior.
The fact that the Bucs couldn't win with the amount of talent they had is not an indictment of Dominik, its proof that you can build both lines and add solid defensive talent, but it's all for naught if you have a dumpster-fire quarterback situation.
As for Winston, I agree. I think his off the field problems are less of concern than Manziel's by far. I also think Mariota is destined for mediocrity.
He's the former GM because he couldn't get along with Greg Schiano and that entire franchise essentially blew up because of it.
He may have drafted Freeman, but he also drafted Gerald McCoy, Adrian Clayborn, Da'Quan Bowers, Mark Barron, Doug Martin, Lavonte David and signed Jamon Meredith, Carl Nicks, Vincent Jackson. He seems to follow the exact strategy that many on here are harping about - build from the interior.
The fact that the Bucs couldn't win with the amount of talent they had is not an indictment of Dominik, its proof that you can build both lines and add solid defensive talent, but it's all for naught if you have a dumpster-fire quarterback situation.
As for Winston, I agree. I think his off the field problems are less of concern than Manziel's by far. I also think Mariota is destined for mediocrity.
Yeah, the Bucs have had some talent. I didn't realize he was the GM that put most of that together.
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"It's a small piece of the evaluation," Senior Bowl executive director and former Cleveland Browns general manager Phil Savage told USA TODAY Sports in a text. "They (Winston and Fisher) go at it like that every day in practice and games.
Probably not a big deal. Just something hard not to see when the national cameras are spotlighting you.
To a certain extent, I kind of like it. It's better than always saying "yes, coach". Friction creates fire. I think its about time we had a little fire from a QB.
To a certain extent, I kind of like it. It's better than always saying "yes, coach". Friction creates fire. I think its about time we had a little fire from a QB.
I like both quarterbacks. If I had to choose between the two I would take Winston. I like the work ethic and having a "boring" quarterback like Mariota who doesn't give any ammunition to TMZ. My concern is the hurry up type offense Mariota played with Oregon. Someone posted about the "it" factor of quarterbacks, the intangibles. I see that a lot with Winston with the number of games he led Florida State to come from behind victories this past season. The ability to lead a team to come from behind victories is a huge "it" factor with me. To work under pressure and come through.
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To a certain extent, I kind of like it. It's better than always saying "yes, coach". Friction creates fire. I think its about time we had a little fire from a QB.
I like both quarterbacks. If I had to choose between the two I would take Winston. I like the work ethic and having a "boring" quarterback like Mariota who doesn't give any ammunition to TMZ. My concern is the hurry up type offense Mariota played with Oregon. Someone posted about the "it" factor of quarterbacks, the intangibles. I see that a lot with Winston with the number of games he led Florida State to come from behind victories this past season. The ability to lead a team to come from behind victories is a huge "it" factor with me. To work under pressure and come through.
I like both quarterbacks. If I had to choose between the two I would take Winston. I like the work ethic and having a "boring" quarterback like Mariota who doesn't give any ammunition to TMZ. My concern is the hurry up type offense Mariota played with Oregon. Someone posted about the "it" factor of quarterbacks, the intangibles. I see that a lot with Winston with the number of games he led Florida State to come from behind victories this past season. The ability to lead a team to come from behind victories is a huge "it" factor with me. To work under pressure and come through.
Same for me.
I'd rather take the guy who has had to win games on his own rather than the guy who has always had the competitive advantage.
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Search "fuck her right in the pussy" on YouTube, I'll wait.
Oh, you're back? Did you see literally hundreds of people trolling news anchors on location by screaming "fuck her right in the pussy" on LIVE broadcast?
Winston didn't say anything to thousands of viewers on live television.
He got "caught" because he's famous, famous for being a good QB....
If you found out your cable guy screamed "fuck her right in the pussy" would you switch to dish?
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kinda Fd up that that is how most nfl personnel thought about manziel last year before the draft and we still handed in the ticket with his name on it.
i'd take mariota over winston all day long. winston is freeman all over again. i'd compare mariota to more a kaepernik without the moxy.
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I like both quarterbacks. If I had to choose between the two I would take Winston. I like the work ethic and having a "boring" quarterback like Mariota who doesn't give any ammunition to TMZ. My concern is the hurry up type offense Mariota played with Oregon. Someone posted about the "it" factor of quarterbacks, the intangibles. I see that a lot with Winston with the number of games he led Florida State to come from behind victories this past season. The ability to lead a team to come from behind victories is a huge "it" factor with me. To work under pressure and come through.
Same for me.
I'd rather take the guy who has had to win games on his own rather than the guy who has always had the competitive advantage.
Same for me.
I'd rather take the guy who has had to win games on his own rather than the guy who has always had the competitive advantage.
Like..........
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Johnny.
WSS
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are some of you guys really on board with mortgaging a draft we desperately need, and possibly some of next years too...to get a skinny read option qb with a just slightly above avg arm? Is nobody feeling any deja vu?
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are some of you guys really on board with mortgaging a draft we desperately need, and possibly some of next years too...to get a skinny read option qb with a just slightly above avg arm? Is nobody feeling any deja vu?
are some of you guys really on board with mortgaging a draft we desperately need, and possibly some of next years too...to get a skinny read option qb
Im not on board.....at all..................zee roe!
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If your record as a GM is 28-52 over 5 yrs then you need to STFU!
Dominik is a joke..
Oh. GM's coach games?
I could put together the best team in the world for you. I doubt you'd know how to win with it.
He stood up in front of the entire student cafeteria and screamed, "Fock her right in the pussy".
That screams immaturity and the thinking that he is immune to consequences. I've seen how these folks usually end up.
The stealing of the crab legs...that's just dumb. Surprise he didn't go after KFC next.
And with the rape case, would it surprise you one bit if he really did do it? This is coming from a person that stood in front of a large audience and screamed...."i fock her right in the pussy." There's something mentally not right with people that do shit like this.
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A college kid screaming something immature to impress his friends? Clearly, he's not NFL material.
I was actually going to counter this argument with logic, but then I realized you're nothing but a racist piece of shit. You're not worth my time.
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A college kid screaming something immature to impress his friends? Clearly, he's not NFL material.
I don't think that episode had anything to do with "impressing" his friends. It's his ego, and it thought it ran the whole school. Huge red flag. What someone else said....it's a person who thinks they're relatively immune to consequences. Haven't we seen enough of that kind of mind set? You are a Browns i'm assuming right?
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are some of you guys really on board with mortgaging a draft we desperately need, and possibly some of next years too...to get a skinny read option qb
Im not on board.....at all..................zee roe!
Im not on board.....at all..................zee roe!
I would any Browns fan at this point would not be. I get it, if the QB position is a hot mess it's hard to win. But other teams have proven that a solid team can make up in part for bad qb play. If we more or less had all the pieces in place, fine...give up some picks. Like the Cavs did this year when they sold off a bunch of picks to bring in Moz and Smith/Shumpert....why not they already have pieces for years to come. Browns aren't in that position.
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A college kid screaming something immature to impress his friends? Clearly, he's not NFL material.
I don't think that episode had anything to do with "impressing" his friends. It's his ego, and it thought it ran the whole school. Huge red flag. What someone else said....it's a person who thinks they're relatively immune to consequences. Haven't we seen enough of that kind of mind set? You are a Browns i'm assuming right?
I don't think that episode had anything to do with "impressing" his friends. It's his ego, and it thought it ran the whole school. Huge red flag. What someone else said....it's a person who thinks they're relatively immune to consequences. Haven't we seen enough of that kind of mind set? You are a Browns i'm assuming right?
Hilarious.
It clearly means he's a spoiled piece of shit with no regards for other people. Clearly.
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I don't think that episode had anything to do with "impressing" his friends. It's his ego, and it thought it ran the whole school. Huge red flag. What someone else said....it's a person who thinks they're relatively immune to consequences. Haven't we seen enough of that kind of mind set? You are a Browns i'm assuming right?
Hilarious.
It clearly means he's a spoiled piece of shit with no regards for other people. Clearly.
Hilarious.
It clearly means he's a spoiled piece of shit with no regards for other people. Clearly.
Yes.
Unless, of course, he winds up in Cleveland.
WSS
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I don't think that episode had anything to do with "impressing" his friends. It's his ego, and it thought it ran the whole school. Huge red flag. What someone else said....it's a person who thinks they're relatively immune to consequences. Haven't we seen enough of that kind of mind set? You are a Browns i'm assuming right?
Hilarious.
It clearly means he's a spoiled piece of shit with no regards for other people. Clearly.
Hilarious.
It clearly means he's a spoiled piece of shit with no regards for other people. Clearly.
So the fact he thinks grocery stores can just bill the Fl.St athletic dept throws up no flags for you?
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Hilarious.
It clearly means he's a spoiled piece of shit with no regards for other people. Clearly.
So the fact he thinks grocery stores can just bill the Fl.St athletic dept throws up no flags for you?
So the fact he thinks grocery stores can just bill the Fl.St athletic dept throws up no flags for you?
Oh, that's what he thinks? You were able to deduce that from that one instance? He steals food from every store he goes into?
I stole a Pokemon card when I was 8. I punched my quarterback in the face in high school. I fell asleep taking a test my freshman year of college.
I'm clearly a lazy, theiving, fighting piece of shit. Good thing we can tell who people become based on the mistakes they make when they're young.
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So the fact he thinks grocery stores can just bill the Fl.St athletic dept throws up no flags for you?
Oh, that's what he thinks? You were able to deduce that from that one instance? He steals food from every store he goes into?
I stole a Pokemon card when I was 8. I punched my quarterback in the face in high school. I fell asleep taking a test my freshman year of college.
I'm clearly a lazy, theiving, fighting piece of shit. Good thing we can tell who people become based on the mistakes they make when they're young.
Oh, that's what he thinks? You were able to deduce that from that one instance? He steals food from every store he goes into?
I stole a Pokemon card when I was 8. I punched my quarterback in the face in high school. I fell asleep taking a test my freshman year of college.
I'm clearly a lazy, theiving, fighting piece of shit. Good thing we can tell who people become based on the mistakes they make when they're young.
I'm more worried by the rape allegations than the crab legs but why bother with famous jameis when you can gun for cardale jones? Who really and I mean really believes in winston?
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Oh, that's what he thinks? You were able to deduce that from that one instance? He steals food from every store he goes into?
I stole a Pokemon card when I was 8. I punched my quarterback in the face in high school. I fell asleep taking a test my freshman year of college.
I'm clearly a lazy, theiving, fighting piece of shit. Good thing we can tell who people become based on the mistakes they make when they're young.
I'm more worried by the rape allegations than the crab legs but why bother with famous jameis when you can gun for cardale jones? Who really and I mean really believes in winston?
I agree, but I'd rather Winston over Mariota if we are indeed looking to take a QB this year.I'm more worried by the rape allegations than the crab legs but why bother with famous jameis when you can gun for cardale jones? Who really and I mean really believes in winston?
After reading all accounts, I'm less worried about the rape allegations.
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