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  • Ahh the 2104 draft what a year!

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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    @columbusking said:

    Ahh the 2104 draft what a year!

    Yeah Dyslexic ran blazing 2.14 40 that year.

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    Per one Bleacher Report writer the Top Ten rookies of last season were:

    1. Aaron Donald DT Rams

    2. Khalil Mack LB Raiders

    3. Odell Beckham WR Giants

    4. Joel Bitonio OG Browns

    5. Zack Martin OG Cowboys

    6. CJ Mosley LB Ravens

    7. Cory Linsly OC Packers

    8. Jeremy Hill RB Bengals

    9. Teddy Twatwater QB Vikings

    10. Mike Evans WR Buccaneers

    Christian Kirksey was rated 37th best rookie.

  • WalterWhiteW WalterWhite wrote on last edited by
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    "steal" usually implies taken in a later round right?

    49ers - Chris Borland

    Steelers - Martavis Bryant

    Packers - Corey Linsey

    Browns - Isaah Crowell

    Jaquars - Allen Hurns

    Chargers - Brandon Oliver

  • "steal" usually implies taken in a later round right?

    49ers - Chris Borland

    Steelers - Martavis Bryant

    Packers - Corey Linsey

    Browns - Isaah Crowell

    Jaquars - Allen Hurns

    Chargers - Brandon Oliver

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @walterwhite said:

    "steal" usually implies taken in a later round right?

    49ers - Chris Borland

    Steelers - Martavis Bryant

    Packers - Corey Linsey

    Browns - Isaah Crowell

    Jaquars - Allen Hurns

    Chargers - Brandon Oliver

    Per my above rank then Cory Linsley may in fact be the best steal of the draft. 5th rounder considered to have had the 7th best rookie season. All others ranked above him were first rounders except Bitonio who was high 2d round.

  • Ahh the 2104 draft what a year!

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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    @columbusking said:

    Ahh the 2104 draft what a year!

    The Zargon 416-B Titans got the steal of the draft when they took Zaparellious M'ktwebortwzz, the 7'5" Octo-human CB from U. Mars - Amherst.

  • MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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    Ok....OP says first 2 rounds only......so Ill try to follow the directions here.....

    Top 5 rookies by PFF rating alone are:

    K. Mack .....55.0.....pick #5

    A. Donald...34.4.....pick #13

    J. Bitonio....22.4.....pick #35

    Z. Martin....21.6.....pick #16

    A. Beckham..20.1..pick #12

    So, based upon the top 5 rated players, Bito is the only one who was NOT in the top 1/2 of the first round....

    Later round stars?.....

    Borland.....20.8.....3rd rounder

    K. Williams...8.7......#1 rated rookie CB in the NFL....Undrafted

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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    Hands down it has to be...

    Buffalo Round 7 Pick #237: Seantrel Henderson OT Miami

    Started all 16 games at RT his rookie season and played at a high level.

  • Hands down it has to be...

    Buffalo Round 7 Pick #237: Seantrel Henderson OT Miami

    Started all 16 games at RT his rookie season and played at a high level.

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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    @tour2ma said:

    Hands down it has to be...

    Buffalo Round 7 Pick #237: Seantrel Henderson OT Miami

    Started all 16 games at RT his rookie season and played at a high level.

    Sarcasm?.......cause I have big respect for your knowledge on OL, but this guy?.....really.....?

  • @tour2ma said:

    Hands down it has to be...

    Buffalo Round 7 Pick #237: Seantrel Henderson OT Miami

    Started all 16 games at RT his rookie season and played at a high level.

    Sarcasm?.......cause I have big respect for your knowledge on OL, but this guy?.....really.....?

    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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    @mudfly said:

    Sarcasm?.......cause I have big respect for your knowledge on OL, but this guy?.....really.....?

    Tour's man crush - from before the draft even.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    Seantrel was my top sleeper last year. Just one of those problem kids with off-field issues, but talent to burn.

    Did not follow him faithfully, but every report I read said he was doing very well. Including shutting down Cameron Wake in their first meeting.

    Did PFF no like?

  • Seantrel was my top sleeper last year. Just one of those problem kids with off-field issues, but talent to burn.

    Did not follow him faithfully, but every report I read said he was doing very well. Including shutting down Cameron Wake in their first meeting.

    Did PFF no like?

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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    @tour2ma said:

    Seantrel was my top sleeper last year. Just one of those problem kids with off-field issues, but talent to burn.

    Did not follow him faithfully, but every report I read said he was doing very well. Including shutting down Cameron Wake in their first meeting.

    Did PFF no like?

    I was high on him around January, then I cooled down when he was too fat to finish his Pro Day.

  • Seantrel was my top sleeper last year. Just one of those problem kids with off-field issues, but talent to burn.

    Did not follow him faithfully, but every report I read said he was doing very well. Including shutting down Cameron Wake in their first meeting.

    Did PFF no like?

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by Mudfly
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    @tour2ma said:

    Seantrel was my top sleeper last year. Just one of those problem kids with off-field issues, but talent to burn.

    Did PFF no like?

    No, they really didn't....2nd last OT actually @ -29.9.....rated 2 plus games and 14 neg games- giving up 28 hurries, 12 hits, 6 sacks....

    However, out of all the rookie tackles, he is only one of 3 that actually started and played 16 games....so he may be better than the score indicates(compared to the other rookie tackles).....

    But, as the steal of the draft?.......Im thinking Ill debate that one....ha! 😉

    as an aside....the lowest rated rookie tackle?....Jake Mathews @ -36.8 (yikes)....with a very balanced -19 pass/ -19 run...with 7 sacks, 9 qb hits, 35 hurries and 11 holds.....

  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by TexasAg1969
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    Jarvis Landry was the 12th WR taken in the draft. Yet he had one more first down (48) catch that #1 Sammy Watkins (47) and one less TD (5) for the season. He caught 84 passes for less yardage than Sammy Watkins's 65 catches, but that is how that Miami O is designed. I'd classify this late 2nd rounder as a real steal starting all games for the season.

    My pick for next year will be Tyler Lockett-5th fastest 40 among WR's at 4.40 with great hands/+moves after the catch.

  • Jarvis Landry was the 12th WR taken in the draft. Yet he had one more first down (48) catch that #1 Sammy Watkins (47) and one less TD (5) for the season. He caught 84 passes for less yardage than Sammy Watkins's 65 catches, but that is how that Miami O is designed. I'd classify this late 2nd rounder as a real steal starting all games for the season.

    My pick for next year will be Tyler Lockett-5th fastest 40 among WR's at 4.40 with great hands/+moves after the catch.

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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    @texasag1969 said:

    Jarvis Landry was the 12th WR taken in the draft. Yet he had one more first down (48) catch that #1 Sammy Watkins (47) and one less TD (5) for the season. He caught 84 passes for less yardage than Sammy Watkins's 65 catches, but that is how that Miami O is designed. I'd classify this late 2nd rounder as a real steal starting all games for the season.

    Thats a good one Ag!....he had a great season and no one mentions him because of all the big name guys.....in case you're curious, based upon PFF Only, he graded out as the #3 most efficient rookie receiver.....(Beckham 1, Evans 2)....

    And who was #4 you ask?........Mr. Taylor Gabriel(undrafted) ....thats right....#4 folks....

  • @columbusking said:

    Ahh the 2104 draft what a year!

    The Zargon 416-B Titans got the steal of the draft when they took Zaparellious M'ktwebortwzz, the 7'5" Octo-human CB from U. Mars - Amherst.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    The Zargon 416-B Titans got the steal of the draft when they took Zaparellious M'ktwebortwzz, the 7'5" Octo-human CB from U. Mars - Amherst.

    I hear he transferred there from Olympus Mon Junior College.

  • Ok....OP says first 2 rounds only......so Ill try to follow the directions here.....

    Top 5 rookies by PFF rating alone are:

    K. Mack .....55.0.....pick #5

    A. Donald...34.4.....pick #13

    J. Bitonio....22.4.....pick #35

    Z. Martin....21.6.....pick #16

    A. Beckham..20.1..pick #12

    So, based upon the top 5 rated players, Bito is the only one who was NOT in the top 1/2 of the first round....

    Later round stars?.....

    Borland.....20.8.....3rd rounder

    K. Williams...8.7......#1 rated rookie CB in the NFL....Undrafted

    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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    @mudfly said:

    K. Williams...8.7......#1 rated rookie CB in the NFL....Undrafted

    @mudfly said:

    And who was #4 you ask?........Mr. Taylor Gabriel(undrafted) ....thats right....#4 folks....

    So, trade away all our draft picks for established players, and just go for undrafted guys?

  • @mudfly said:

    K. Williams...8.7......#1 rated rookie CB in the NFL....Undrafted

    @mudfly said:

    And who was #4 you ask?........Mr. Taylor Gabriel(undrafted) ....thats right....#4 folks....

    So, trade away all our draft picks for established players, and just go for undrafted guys?

    miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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    @gftchris said:

    So, trade away all our draft picks for established players, and just go for undrafted guys?

    remember chris, sarcasm is supposed to be highlighted in pink.

  • @mudfly said:

    K. Williams...8.7......#1 rated rookie CB in the NFL....Undrafted

    @mudfly said:

    And who was #4 you ask?........Mr. Taylor Gabriel(undrafted) ....thats right....#4 folks....

    So, trade away all our draft picks for established players, and just go for undrafted guys?

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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    @gftchris said:

    So, trade away all our draft picks for established players, and just go for undrafted guys?

    say what?.....

  • @tour2ma said:

    Seantrel was my top sleeper last year. Just one of those problem kids with off-field issues, but talent to burn.

    Did PFF no like?

    No, they really didn't....2nd last OT actually @ -29.9.....rated 2 plus games and 14 neg games- giving up 28 hurries, 12 hits, 6 sacks....

    However, out of all the rookie tackles, he is only one of 3 that actually started and played 16 games....so he may be better than the score indicates(compared to the other rookie tackles).....

    But, as the steal of the draft?.......Im thinking Ill debate that one....ha! 😉

    as an aside....the lowest rated rookie tackle?....Jake Mathews @ -36.8 (yikes)....with a very balanced -19 pass/ -19 run...with 7 sacks, 9 qb hits, 35 hurries and 11 holds.....

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    Nah... just trade away our first rounders... 🙂

    @mudfly said:

    No, they really didn't....2nd last OT actually @ -29.9.....rated 2 plus games and 14 neg games- giving up 28 hurries, 12 hits, 6 sacks....

    However, out of all the rookie tackles, he is only one of 3 that actually started and played 16 games....so he may be better than the score indicates(compared to the other rookie tackles).....

    But, as the steal of the draft?.......Im thinking Ill debate that one....ha! 😉

    as an aside....the lowest rated rookie tackle?....Jake Mathews @ -36.8 (yikes)....with a very balanced -19 pass/ -19 run...with 7 sacks, 9 qb hits, 35 hurries and 11 holds.....

    Shocked at Jake, but appreciate him trying to make my guy look better...

  • Nah... just trade away our first rounders... 🙂

    @mudfly said:

    No, they really didn't....2nd last OT actually @ -29.9.....rated 2 plus games and 14 neg games- giving up 28 hurries, 12 hits, 6 sacks....

    However, out of all the rookie tackles, he is only one of 3 that actually started and played 16 games....so he may be better than the score indicates(compared to the other rookie tackles).....

    But, as the steal of the draft?.......Im thinking Ill debate that one....ha! 😉

    as an aside....the lowest rated rookie tackle?....Jake Mathews @ -36.8 (yikes)....with a very balanced -19 pass/ -19 run...with 7 sacks, 9 qb hits, 35 hurries and 11 holds.....

    Shocked at Jake, but appreciate him trying to make my guy look better...

    Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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    @tour2ma said:

    Nah... just trade away our first rounders... 🙂

    What? and piss off Stockton? (I can't figure out how to highlight that in pink)