Gipson pissed.
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It's actually a bit like the Alex Mack deal with the transition tag, only they really want to keep him so if somebody really smacks it hard we'll at least get a 2nd rounder out of it.
We SHOULD be the ones smacking really hard because he's worth it.
I'm tired of hearing how we can't get good players here and were are willing to let a hardworking young pro bowler walk for a 2nd round "prospect"
Good grief.
We SHOULD be the ones smacking really hard because he's worth it.
I'm tired of hearing how we can't get good players here and were are willing to let a hardworking young pro bowler walk for a 2nd round "prospect"
Good grief.
What is it you don't understand? We are saying we are going to keep him. We aren't letting him go unless someone offers crazy money, and that won't happen now.
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We SHOULD be the ones smacking really hard because he's worth it.
I'm tired of hearing how we can't get good players here and were are willing to let a hardworking young pro bowler walk for a 2nd round "prospect"
Good grief.
What is it you don't understand? We are saying we are going to keep him. We aren't letting him go unless someone offers crazy money, and that won't happen now.
What is it you don't understand? We are saying we are going to keep him. We aren't letting him go unless someone offers crazy money, and that won't happen now.
He just simply doesn't get it. He'd rather rant and rave like a dumbass then actually understand that he's completely overreacting. Nothing has happened and the guy hasn't left yet. Get pissed off when he signs with someone else and we don't match the offer. Until then....shut the hell up.
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What is it you don't understand? We are saying we are going to keep him. We aren't letting him go unless someone offers crazy money, and that won't happen now.
He just simply doesn't get it. He'd rather rant and rave like a dumbass then actually understand that he's completely overreacting. Nothing has happened and the guy hasn't left yet. Get pissed off when he signs with someone else and we don't match the offer. Until then....shut the hell up.
He just simply doesn't get it. He'd rather rant and rave like a dumbass then actually understand that he's completely overreacting. Nothing has happened and the guy hasn't left yet. Get pissed off when he signs with someone else and we don't match the offer. Until then....shut the hell up.
Okay dad, by the way it's Gipson who's visibly frustrated on his TL and instead of these fucking games of tendering why not just sign the guy and get it over with?
For such a talent desperate team it would make sense to keep your young pro bowler player at fair compensation.
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He just simply doesn't get it. He'd rather rant and rave like a dumbass then actually understand that he's completely overreacting. Nothing has happened and the guy hasn't left yet. Get pissed off when he signs with someone else and we don't match the offer. Until then....shut the hell up.
Okay dad, by the way it's Gipson who's visibly frustrated on his TL and instead of these fucking games of tendering why not just sign the guy and get it over with?
For such a talent desperate team it would make sense to keep your young pro bowler player at fair compensation.
Okay dad, by the way it's Gipson who's visibly frustrated on his TL and instead of these fucking games of tendering why not just sign the guy and get it over with?
For such a talent desperate team it would make sense to keep your young pro bowler player at fair compensation.
Boo fucking hoo...he's upset on his twitter line. I'd tell him the same thing if i was his agent. Grow up and stop whining. Nothing has happened yet. He's a restricted free agent and this is how the business works.
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He just simply doesn't get it. He'd rather rant and rave like a dumbass then actually understand that he's completely overreacting. Nothing has happened and the guy hasn't left yet. Get pissed off when he signs with someone else and we don't match the offer. Until then....shut the hell up.
Okay dad, by the way it's Gipson who's visibly frustrated on his TL and instead of these fucking games of tendering why not just sign the guy and get it over with?
For such a talent desperate team it would make sense to keep your young pro bowler player at fair compensation.
Okay dad, by the way it's Gipson who's visibly frustrated on his TL and instead of these fucking games of tendering why not just sign the guy and get it over with?
For such a talent desperate team it would make sense to keep your young pro bowler player at fair compensation.
They offered a fair contract for a guy who has one good tear and a bum knee. It seems you want us just to overpay just so we can say we signed someone. Thats how we get these stupid high contracts everytime a guy has a good year. Let him put a few good years and make a few PB's before we pay him like he's the best in the league.
Last year he was the 50th best safety. This year tenth. Next year?
Boo fucking hoo...he's upset on his twitter line. I'd tell him the same thing if i was his agent. Grow up and stop whining. Nothing has happened yet. He's a restricted free agent and this is how the business works.
No doubt. If he's worth more then the market will determine that and he'll get his.
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He just simply doesn't get it. He'd rather rant and rave like a dumbass then actually understand that he's completely overreacting. Nothing has happened and the guy hasn't left yet. Get pissed off when he signs with someone else and we don't match the offer. Until then....shut the hell up.
Okay dad, by the way it's Gipson who's visibly frustrated on his TL and instead of these fucking games of tendering why not just sign the guy and get it over with?
For such a talent desperate team it would make sense to keep your young pro bowler player at fair compensation.
Okay dad, by the way it's Gipson who's visibly frustrated on his TL and instead of these fucking games of tendering why not just sign the guy and get it over with?
For such a talent desperate team it would make sense to keep your young pro bowler player at fair compensation.
Might be because the front office isn't exactly sure what to pay him. Established, top 10 safety type money? This gives Farmer a base to work with. If other teams are willing to make an offer, I'm sure Farmer will structure his own right around what other teams were willing.
In the long run, Gipson will be a Brown, he'll get paid and everybody will be happy.
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Okay dad, by the way it's Gipson who's visibly frustrated on his TL and instead of these fucking games of tendering why not just sign the guy and get it over with?
For such a talent desperate team it would make sense to keep your young pro bowler player at fair compensation.
Might be because the front office isn't exactly sure what to pay him. Established, top 10 safety type money? This gives Farmer a base to work with. If other teams are willing to make an offer, I'm sure Farmer will structure his own right around what other teams were willing.
In the long run, Gipson will be a Brown, he'll get paid and everybody will be happy.
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Okay dad, by the way it's Gipson who's visibly frustrated on his TL and instead of these fucking games of tendering why not just sign the guy and get it over with?
For such a talent desperate team it would make sense to keep your young pro bowler player at fair compensation.
They offered a fair contract for a guy who has one good tear and a bum knee. It seems you want us just to overpay just so we can say we signed someone. Thats how we get these stupid high contracts everytime a guy has a good year. Let him put a few good years and make a few PB's before we pay him like he's the best in the league.
Last year he was the 50th best safety. This year tenth. Next year?
Boo fucking hoo...he's upset on his twitter line. I'd tell him the same thing if i was his agent. Grow up and stop whining. Nothing has happened yet. He's a restricted free agent and this is how the business works.
No doubt. If he's worth more then the market will determine that and he'll get his.
They offered a fair contract for a guy who has one good tear and a bum knee. It seems you want us just to overpay just so we can say we signed someone. Thats how we get these stupid high contracts everytime a guy has a good year. Let him put a few good years and make a few PB's before we pay him like he's the best in the league.
Last year he was the 50th best safety. This year tenth. Next year?
No doubt. If he's worth more then the market will determine that and he'll get his.
1. A bum knee? He suffered a sprain knee at the end of the season, he isn't on multiple ACL tears.
2. Let him put in a few good years before we pay him like he's the best in the league? He's already put in 2 good years and entering the final year of his deal. If you don't pay him soon he's gone
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Christ, this can't be that goddamn complicated.
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You let the market determine Gipson's value so when the Browns give him an offer they do not over pay. If a team throws some insane contract out there, the Browns can simply bow out and take their 2nd round pick.
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Would seem that everyone but Walter is able to understand such a simple concept.
Oh stop with this horse shit, multiple people have been questioning this all day. I'm just not guzzling down the kool aid.
I'd love to see you at your job or career OUTPERFORM everyone else including other people at the same position at different companies and then when it came time for a raise your boss says "Well Mark O, I know you're thinking along the lines of 100K a year but we are going to pay you 30k instead. I know that YOU KNOW we can and should pay you 100k a year based off our performance but we just want to keep you motivated and hungry so we are going to pay you a SHITLOAD less, is that okay with you? Also, lets hope you don't get hurt on the job or anything, deal?"
The implication here is you that know DAMN WELL if you were in his shoes you'd be doing the same. Your outtake is fraudulent.
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Would seem that everyone but Walter is able to understand such a simple concept.
Oh stop with this horse shit, multiple people have been questioning this all day. I'm just not guzzling down the kool aid.
I'd love to see you at your job or career OUTPERFORM everyone else including other people at the same position at different companies and then when it came time for a raise your boss says "Well Mark O, I know you're thinking along the lines of 100K a year but we are going to pay you 30k instead. I know that YOU KNOW we can and should pay you 100k a year based off our performance but we just want to keep you motivated and hungry so we are going to pay you a SHITLOAD less, is that okay with you? Also, lets hope you don't get hurt on the job or anything, deal?"
The implication here is you that know DAMN WELL if you were in his shoes you'd be doing the same. Your outtake is fraudulent.
Oh stop with this horse shit, multiple people have been questioning this all day. I'm just not guzzling down the kool aid.
I'd love to see you at your job or career OUTPERFORM everyone else including other people at the same position at different companies and then when it came time for a raise your boss says "Well Mark O, I know you're thinking along the lines of 100K a year but we are going to pay you 30k instead. I know that YOU KNOW we can and should pay you 100k a year based off our performance but we just want to keep you motivated and hungry so we are going to pay you a SHITLOAD less, is that okay with you? Also, lets hope you don't get hurt on the job or anything, deal?"
The implication here is you that know DAMN WELL if you were in his shoes you'd be doing the same. Your outtake is fraudulent.
No I'm smart enough to understand how the business works and go out and see what the market will bear for my services. And IF i can get a 150k per year offer, I go back to my original boss and say ok, I got offered 150k for the next year, I'd like to stay here but you have to pay me the same thing and if they say no then I move on to the new place.
What part of that don't you understand?
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You let the market determine Gipson's value so when the Browns give him an offer they do not over pay. If a team throws some insane contract out there, the Browns can simply bow out and take their 2nd round pick.
You let the market determine Gipson's value so when the Browns give him an offer they do not over pay. If a team throws some insane contract out there, the Browns can simply bow out and take their 2nd round pick.
Dude what don't you understand?
The market has already been determined when McCourty got 5 years 47.5 million.
YOU DON'T FUCKING RISK ONE OF THE best players on a talent starved team walking away WHEN YOU HAVE ALL THIS FUCKING CAP SPACE.
For what? a 2nd round pick? WOO FUCKING HOO.
Can't wait for another Massaquio, Robiskie, Veikune, Hardesty type badass here
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I imagine you don't negotiate when buying a car.
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Oh stop with this horse shit, multiple people have been questioning this all day. I'm just not guzzling down the kool aid.
I'd love to see you at your job or career OUTPERFORM everyone else including other people at the same position at different companies and then when it came time for a raise your boss says "Well Mark O, I know you're thinking along the lines of 100K a year but we are going to pay you 30k instead. I know that YOU KNOW we can and should pay you 100k a year based off our performance but we just want to keep you motivated and hungry so we are going to pay you a SHITLOAD less, is that okay with you? Also, lets hope you don't get hurt on the job or anything, deal?"
The implication here is you that know DAMN WELL if you were in his shoes you'd be doing the same. Your outtake is fraudulent.
No I'm smart enough to understand how the business works and go out and see what the market will bear for my services. And IF i can get a 150k per year offer, I go back to my original boss and say ok, I got offered 150k for the next year, I'd like to stay here but you have to pay me the same thing and if they say no then I move on to the new place.
What part of that don't you understand?
No I'm smart enough to understand how the business works and go out and see what the market will bear for my services.
The market got decided when McCourty got his 5 years 47 million. I wouldn't accept anything less if I was the superior player.
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You let the market determine Gipson's value so when the Browns give him an offer they do not over pay. If a team throws some insane contract out there, the Browns can simply bow out and take their 2nd round pick.
Dude what don't you understand?
The market has already been determined when McCourty got 5 years 47.5 million.
YOU DON'T FUCKING RISK ONE OF THE best players on a talent starved team walking away WHEN YOU HAVE ALL THIS FUCKING CAP SPACE.
For what? a 2nd round pick? WOO FUCKING HOO.
Can't wait for another Massaquio, Robiskie, Veikune, Hardesty type badass here
Dude what don't you understand?
The market has already been determined when McCourty got 5 years 47.5 million.
YOU DON'T FUCKING RISK ONE OF THE best players on a talent starved team walking away WHEN YOU HAVE ALL THIS FUCKING CAP SPACE.
For what? a 2nd round pick? WOO FUCKING HOO.
Can't wait for another Massaquio, Robiskie, Veikune, Hardesty type badass here
He CANT walk away without the Browns having the opportunity to match the offer. That's what we've been trying to get through your giant fat blockhead all night long.
He's a restricted free agent...the Browns have control. Wait and see what he gets offered and then go from there. This really isn't that complicated for anyone who would like to have an open mind and the reading comprehension above the 3rd grade.
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I imagine you don't negotiate when buying a car.
I imagine you don't negotiate when buying a car.
Dont value me like a Honda Civic when I perform like a BMW
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The market got decided when McCourty got his 5 years 47 million. I wouldn't accept anything less if I was the superior player.
Ok...and what if Gipson on the open market only gets offered 5 years 30 million. "you wouldn't accept anything less" so do you not play because you didn't get offered more? Do you take your ball and go home and cry in the corner...boo fucking hoo..someone is making more than me and some stats say i'm the better player so i'm not playing anymore.
You really just aren't grasping the concept of a restricted free agent and an unrestricted free agent. For the last time and then I'm done with you and we will close this topic because it's a waste of everyones time:
Gipson cannot sign with another team without the Browns having the ability to match the offer. He hasn't left, they haven't let him go and he sure as shit is going to get paid, whether it's here or somewhere else, he's making his money. I'd love to see him back but I'm not going to cry like a little bitch like you have today and the mere possibility that he leaves.
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Dude what don't you understand?
The market has already been determined when McCourty got 5 years 47.5 million.
YOU DON'T FUCKING RISK ONE OF THE best players on a talent starved team walking away WHEN YOU HAVE ALL THIS FUCKING CAP SPACE.
For what? a 2nd round pick? WOO FUCKING HOO.
Can't wait for another Massaquio, Robiskie, Veikune, Hardesty type badass here
He CANT walk away without the Browns having the opportunity to match the offer. That's what we've been trying to get through your giant fat blockhead all night long.
He's a restricted free agent...the Browns have control. Wait and see what he gets offered and then go from there. This really isn't that complicated for anyone who would like to have an open mind and the reading comprehension above the 3rd grade.
He CANT walk away without the Browns having the opportunity to match the offer. That's what we've been trying to get through your giant fat blockhead all night long.
He's a restricted free agent...the Browns have control. Wait and see what he gets offered and then go from there. This really isn't that complicated for anyone who would like to have an open mind and the reading comprehension above the 3rd grade.
You obviously are the one who can't get it.
Say the Eagles for example part with a 2nd and we match it, and he has another great year.
What in the fuck makes you think he's going to want to stick around in 2016 after being low balled by us?
He'll go elsewhere, lets prevent that, getting him LOCKED DOWN NOW.
And lets stop acting like every move Ray Farmer has made doesn't deserve question.
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The market got decided when McCourty got his 5 years 47 million. I wouldn't accept anything less if I was the superior player.
Ok...and what if Gipson on the open market only gets offered 5 years 30 million. "you wouldn't accept anything less" so do you not play because you didn't get offered more? Do you take your ball and go home and cry in the corner...boo fucking hoo..someone is making more than me and some stats say i'm the better player so i'm not playing anymore.
You really just aren't grasping the concept of a restricted free agent and an unrestricted free agent. For the last time and then I'm done with you and we will close this topic because it's a waste of everyones time:
Gipson cannot sign with another team without the Browns having the ability to match the offer. He hasn't left, they haven't let him go and he sure as shit is going to get paid, whether it's here or somewhere else, he's making his money. I'd love to see him back but I'm not going to cry like a little bitch like you have today and the mere possibility that he leaves.
Gipson cannot sign with another team without the Browns having the ability to match the offer. He hasn't left, they haven't let him go and he sure as shit is going to get paid, whether it's here or somewhere else, he's making his money. I'd love to see him back but I'm not going to cry like a little bitch like you have today and the mere possibility that he leaves.
It's obvious you don't care about paying talent what they're worth then. I mean who wants talent on this team?
It's obvious you can't have discussion without closing a thread or banning someone who disagrees with you.
Go ahead close the thread, and sulk and walk away.
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