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  • H heckofajobbrownie

    I called the Laurinitas slide weeks ago. He's not that special. Didn't show up in Mobile. And now he's disappointed in Indy.

    I'd be willing to throw down some serious money that he's not going to be in round one. He's in the 40-60 range, I'd guess.

    @heckofajobbrownie said:

    I called the Laurinitas slide weeks ago. He's not that special. Didn't show up in Mobile. And now he's disappointed in Indy.

    Good call.

    You know who made a bad call? Brandon Spikes. With Laurinaitis timing poorly and Maualuga a total mess, Spikes could have worked his way into being a top 15 pick. Unless he's the #1 ILB next year, he lost out on a lot of money.

  • with the Browns' luck, both Cushing and Mathews will go in the first round. I hope not.

    Use DA for a trade back up into the first ?

  • LB 3-cone times:

    Brian Cushing - 6.84

    Clay Matthews - 6.90

    James Laurinaitis - 6.93

    Marcus Freeman - 6.98

    Kaluka Maiava - 6.98

    Scott McKillop - 7.00

    Dannell Ellerbe - 7.00

    Jasper Brinkley - 7.03

    Moise Fokou - 7.09

    I wonder how Curry did. The 3-cone is a good measure of hip flexibility/change of direction ability, which is one of Curry's weaknesses.

  • Vertical:

    Aaron Curry - 37.0"

    Zack Follett - 37.0"

    Marcus Freeman - 37.0"

    Scott McKillop - 35.5"

    Clay Matthews - 35.5"

    Jasper Brinkley - 35.5"

    Dannell Ellerbe - 35.0"

    Worrell Williams - 35.0"

    Brian Cushing - 35.0"

  • Short Shuttle:

    Marcus Freeman - 4.12

    Clay Matthews - 4.18

    Kaluka Maiava - 4.20

    Brian Cushing - 4.22

    Dannell Ellerbe - 4.23

    James Laurinaitis - 4.24

    Moise Fokou - 4.28

    Jason Phillips - 4.32

    Jasper Brinkley - 4.32

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    Short Shuttle:

    Marcus Freeman - 4.12

    Clay Matthews - 4.18

    Kaluka Maiava - 4.20

    Brian Cushing - 4.22

    Dannell Ellerbe - 4.23

    James Laurinaitis - 4.24

    Moise Fokou - 4.28

    Jason Phillips - 4.32

    Jasper Brinkley - 4.32

    Aloysius said:

    Short Shuttle:

    Marcus Freeman - 4.12

    Clay Matthews - 4.18

    Kaluka Maiava - 4.20

    Brian Cushing - 4.22

    Dannell Ellerbe - 4.23

    James Laurinaitis - 4.24

    Moise Fokou - 4.28

    Jason Phillips - 4.32

    Jasper Brinkley - 4.32

    Are Curry's numbers just ridiculous or is he not participating in the LB drills?

  • Trying to find out whether he participated in those drills. He's listed as one of the top performers in the 60 yard shuttle, so I'm guessing that he did.

  • This is adding more to my argument that Curry is going to go #1. He's the safest pick in the draft and the Lions can't miss there - it'd set them back another few years.

    Here's another nugget they might be aware of:

    Your last 6 Defensive Rookie of the Years and 8 of the last 9 were linebackers.

    Sure, they don't typically go number one. But look at some of the past #1s. Wasn't Brian Urlacher a better pick than Courtney Brown? Were Demarcus Ware and Shane Merriman better picks than Alex Smith in 2005?

    Who is Stafford? Another David Carr? Maybe. Well then, it'd probably behoove you to take Aaron Curry instead.

    In other words, you'd have to REALLY like Stafford if you're the Lions.

  • And I think the dream scenario for the Lions is to take Curry, then hope Sanchez finds his way to them at the #20, or to trade up above the Jets and secure him. They've got the picks to do it.

    Or they can use that #20 on Cassel.

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  • Clay Matthews is really having a great combine, his stock is rising.

    I predict him to be a suprise to all in the NFL, he comes with his own pedigree a team wont be inheriting a risk by picking him up at all.

    some coaches look at the shuttle as a players in game 40 time. not only at if they have the fast twitch to be able to redirect while in pursuit.

    Head or Gut?
  • H heckofajobbrownie

    Hey, Pioli drafted Seymour, Ty Warren, and Vince Wilfork, all in round one. He only drafted one linebacker on day one in his entire stint with the Pats, and that was Mayo last year.

    If that gives you hope.

    @heckofajobbrownie said:

    Hey, Pioli drafted Seymour, Ty Warren, and Vince Wilfork, all in round one. He only drafted one linebacker on day one in his entire stint with the Pats, and that was Mayo last year.

    If that gives you hope.

    Actually he just did what Belichick said. Belichick had the say over the draft and roster.

  • H heckofajobbrownie

    And I think the dream scenario for the Lions is to take Curry, then hope Sanchez finds his way to them at the #20, or to trade up above the Jets and secure him. They've got the picks to do it.

    Or they can use that #20 on Cassel.

    @heckofajobbrownie said:

    And I think the dream scenario for the Lions is to take Curry, then hope Sanchez finds his way to them at the #20, or to trade up above the Jets and secure him. They've got the picks to do it.

    Or they can use that #20 on Cassel.

    It will take way more then a #20 to get Cassel. NE wants two firsts. This year's and next year's.

  • H heckofajobbrownie

    And I think the dream scenario for the Lions is to take Curry, then hope Sanchez finds his way to them at the #20, or to trade up above the Jets and secure him. They've got the picks to do it.

    Or they can use that #20 on Cassel.

    @heckofajobbrownie said:

    And I think the dream scenario for the Lions is to take Curry, then hope Sanchez finds his way to them at the #20, or to trade up above the Jets and secure him. They've got the picks to do it.

    Or they can use that #20 on Cassel.

    Pretty nice dream. If I'm not mistaken, the Lions also have an additional 3rd from the Roy Williams trade, which they could use to trade up in the 1st or use to grease the wheels on a Cassel trade.

    The Lions also have a lot of cap space, which they could use to bring in some OL pieces.

  • Yup.

    And I'd think the Pats would be happy with the #20 for Cassel. Just because you ask for two first-rounders doesn't mean that's all you'll take. You take the best offer provided it returns adequate value to your franchise.

    And Pioli was in on every personnel decision. That's why all sorts of teams were trying to acquire his services. Why would they pay all that money for a coach's yes-man? Anyone can be that.

  • According to nfldraftscout, Aaron Curry had a 6.84 3-cone time. That would be good enough to tie Brian Cushing for the best time among linebackers.

  • Mortty Ivy had a rather unimpressive combine, running a 4.9 40 and only putting up 18 reps of 225. That'll push him down to late round territory, perhaps even going undrafted.

    I think he'd be a good guy to bring in as a UDFA. Though he's athletically limited, he's got the size (6'1", 248 lbs.) and skills to be a solid backup ILB.

    (Ivy's #44)

  • i like ivy a lot. he's a high-motor, inspiring player who raises the level of competition around him because he plays so hard. he's not going to set the NFL on fire, but he could easily be the guy to take on blocks next to DQ, which is a role he'd probably enjoy and excel in because it uses his explosion in limited space and doesn't ask him to do anything he can't.

  • Ray Lewis ran a 4.8 40 at the combine. These measurables are nice and all, but what these players do on the football field is the most important thing. The combine always elevates some players and drops others. But if they can't play, I don't care how fast they are. I would compare the combine to ranking high school players...it doesn't really mean that much.

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