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Wealthy QB's shouldn't be able to take less money to work around the cap.

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  • You should be allowed to take whatever money you feel you're worth. For some players it isn't about the money and the difference between them making 5mil a year or 9 mil a year means nothing.

    There's is zero problem with what Manning, Brady, Rodgers or any QB have done to make cap space for their team.

  • You should be allowed to take whatever money you feel you're worth. For some players it isn't about the money and the difference between them making 5mil a year or 9 mil a year means nothing.

    There's is zero problem with what Manning, Brady, Rodgers or any QB have done to make cap space for their team.

    @tiamat63 said:

    You should be allowed to take whatever money you feel you're worth. For some players it isn't about the money and the difference between them making 5mil a year or 9 mil a year means nothing.

    There's is zero problem with what Manning, Brady, Rodgers or any QB have done to make cap space for their team.

    I don't have a problem with it either.

    It's your name and your money.

    If a team wants to overpay ie. Skrine, go for it.

    If a player wants to help the team, then good for him.

  • So if a pitcher like Corey Kluber was willing to take less money to remain an Indian the union wouldn't let him?

  • So if a pitcher like Corey Kluber was willing to take less money to remain an Indian the union wouldn't let him?

    @opal312 said:

    So if a pitcher like Corey Kluber was willing to take less money to remain an Indian the union wouldn't let him?

    If he is signing a new deal, or an extension of a current deal, then yes, he can take less.

    If he was renegotiaiting an existing deal then the union would say no

  • Just to be on the side of OP (not really, but just for argument's sake) I think the idea in general is that an NFL team has to have foresight to how contracts will play out in the future. If a guy is going to create a $15mil cap hit, then he should no matter what money he is or isn't willing to take. It would create a much different situation of signing high profile FA QB's than just throwing up a huge number knowing 3 years from now they can change it.

  • Just to be on the side of OP (not really, but just for argument's sake) I think the idea in general is that an NFL team has to have foresight to how contracts will play out in the future. If a guy is going to create a $15mil cap hit, then he should no matter what money he is or isn't willing to take. It would create a much different situation of signing high profile FA QB's than just throwing up a huge number knowing 3 years from now they can change it.

    @jrb12711 said:

    Just to be on the side of OP (not really, but just for argument's sake) I think the idea in general is that an NFL team has to have foresight to how contracts will play out in the future. If a guy is going to create a $15mil cap hit, then he should no matter what money he is or isn't willing to take. It would create a much different situation of signing high profile FA QB's than just throwing up a huge number knowing 3 years from now they can change it.

    It seems to me that the big free agent deals only last 2-3 years. Because they get most of the money up-front in signing bonuses stretched over 3 years and after that the big salary cap hit comes in year 4 or 5 and that's when they get cut.

  • Yeah....Damn these bastards doing something to help their team acquire and pay for more players that can help win games.

  • Question for anyone who knows: a little off topic but how do bonuses work against cap if at all. Say Romo gets 5 million signing bonus or other bonus, does this hit a teams cap?

  • I agree the rules are a bit outta whack. The salary cap is put in place to allow for competitive balance but the restructuring is a way to skirt those rules. My issue isn't the player getting paid, it's the corporate accounting that allows teams to take the hit when they aren't as competitive.

  • Question for anyone who knows: a little off topic but how do bonuses work against cap if at all. Say Romo gets 5 million signing bonus or other bonus, does this hit a teams cap?

    @comeonman said:

    Question for anyone who knows: a little off topic but how do bonuses work against cap if at all. Say Romo gets 5 million signing bonus or other bonus, does this hit a teams cap?

    They are prorated over the life of the cap, even though the money is physically handed over in year 1. If you know that much, you already understand about 50% of cap minutia.