Jaws: Sources saying Mariota will go #1 to Tampa

miktoxic

a GM nowadays who goes out on limb and takes a player with questionable character has got one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel.

Comeonman

@miktoxic said:
a GM nowadays who goes out on limb and takes a player with questionable character has got one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel.

So you're saying Farmer... With the 12th pick?

gumby73

Browns STILL Select D. Shelton

Canton Dawg

@gumby73 said:
Browns STILL Select D. Shelton

Let's hope so.

Comeonman

Ditto. I have my doubts that he's available though

miktoxic

it'd be nice if he was and we picked him.

wargograw

@miktoxic said:
a GM nowadays who goes out on limb and takes a player with questionable character has got one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel.

Or he gets a steal. That's kinda the point.

miktoxic

yep, a steal or a felony bust. a job or the unemployment line.

would you take the risk?

wargograw

You're not going to get fired for missin on one player. I can't answer whether I would or not because I need more context. Would I take Jameis Winston at 19? Absolutely.

wargograw

Cinci's GM taking the risk on Vontaze Burfict seems to be working out fine.

gumby73

@comeonman said:
Ditto. I have my doubts that he's available though

The more needs that fall to Chicago the better. A Top WR or QB still on the board to the Bears, may put Shelton in some color of orange with no C on the helmet. (we think )

miktoxic

@wargograw said:
You're not going to get fired for missin on one player.

bobby beatherd retired after the ryan leaf fiasco. i guess that's better than being fired.

ask belichick, ozzie newsome, ortmayer and pollian how it feels to draft and sign murderers.

WalterWhite

@wargograw said:
Cinci's GM taking the risk on Vontaze Burfict seems to be working out fine.

They didn't take a "risk" on him, he was undrafted.

Spending the first pick in the draft on a franchise QB who's been accused of sexual assault twice, shop lifting, and screaming "FUCK HER RIGHT IN THE PUSSY" from the top of the table is not even in the same ball park as an undrafted linebacker who smoked marijuana and was considered "a personal foul machine" on the field.

Comeonman

@walterwhite said:

They didn't take a "risk" on him, he was undrafted.

Spending the first pick in the draft on a franchise QB who's been accused of sexual assault twice, shop lifting, and screaming "FUCK HER RIGHT IN THE PUSSY" from the top of the table is not even in the same ball park as an undrafted linebacker who smoked marijuana and was considered "a personal foul machine" on the field.

Lol. I never heard what he actually said. That's great

Comeonman

@gumby73 said:
The more needs that fall to Chicago the better. A Top WR or QB still on the board to the Bears, may put Shelton in some color of orange with no C on the helmet. (we think )

True. That's where he most likely goes if not to us.

miktoxic

if he gets by the gints then i see hope.

Lumbergh

@walterwhite said:

Teams are scared off by Winston's off field activities.

"The latest I'm hearing now from my sources around the league, who are pretty wired in, is that Marcus Mariota is going to go number one now to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers." - Ron Jaworski [/size]

http://walterfootball.com/draft2015rumorsteams.php

Jaws is a fucking Retard with no contacts or sources.

wargograw

@walterwhite said:

They didn't take a "risk" on him, he was undrafted.

Spending the first pick in the draft on a franchise QB who's been accused of sexual assault twice, shop lifting, and screaming "FUCK HER RIGHT IN THE PUSSY" from the top of the table is not even in the same ball park as an undrafted linebacker who smoked marijuana and was considered "a personal foul machine" on the field.

Well you're certainly better at arguing than mik, but he did not specify first round.

Also, Burfict slipped for more than that. He had first round-level tape. That's a fact. My point is that Burfict has proved to be a take. He would have been a take as a third rounder. Maybe higher. Mik said that taking a chance on a player with questionable character means you have one foot in the grave and one on a banana peel.

Everything has a price. If we take Mik's statement to the extreme, let's stipulate that Jameis Winston didn't get drafted, just like Burfict. He's available for pennies on the dollar. So a GM that signs him has "one foot in the grave and one on a banana peel"? Uh, no. The price was right.

MLD Woody

Well no shit the higher that player is drafted the bigger the risk the GM is taking...

WalterWhite

@wargograw said:

Well you're certainly better at arguing than mik, but he did not specify first round.

Also, Burfict slipped for more than that. He had first round-level tape. That's a fact. My point is that Burfict has proved to be a take. He would have been a take as a third rounder. Maybe higher. Mik said that taking a chance on a player with questionable character means you have one foot in the grave and one on a banana peel.

Everything has a price. If we take Mik's statement to the extreme, let's stipulate that Jameis Winston didn't get drafted, just like Burfict. He's available for pennies on the dollar. So a GM that signs him has "one foot in the grave and one on a banana peel"? Uh, no. The price was right.

I can't speak for Mik but I think he's implying that if you draft a player in the top 10 who has character issues you are rolling the dice and i have to agree.

I don't see a big issue in taking a character flawed guy in the 5-UDFA rounds because the investment isn't high and the payoff could be good.

Jameis Winston will get drafted at some point but we are talking the VERY FIRST PICK IN THE DRAFT INVOLVING THE MOST IMPORTANT POSITION.