WINSLOW TRADED!!
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Keep in mind this also frees up $3.6M under the cap.
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The reason the draft picks are undisclosed is because they suck! If they didn't get at least a 2nd rounder Im gonna be xxxxing pissed! K2 is locked up for some time at a great price and well worth a first rd draft pick. Hell Shockey garnered a 2nd rounder and he is no where near K2! Looks like we'll be signing Chris Baker who doesn't equal K2's xxxxing turd. That or they have faith that Heiden and Rucker can fill his shoes yeah right!
Looks like Mangini was drinkin the koolaid from the Giants game where Winslow didnt play. Next thing we'll hear is DA is going to be the starter next season! GIVE ME A xxxxIN BREAK MANGINA YOU PRICK!
Maybe it is TB asking that the picks not be disclosed. Ever think of that? They wanted people to get excited about getting him before they let it out that they gave up a 2nd and a 3rd?
Maybe it is TB asking that the picks not be disclosed. Ever think of that? They wanted people to get excited about getting him before they let it out that they gave up a 2nd and a 3rd?
No way they gave up a 2nd and 3rd. I think Shefter has it right. It's likely a 2nd and 5th or a 3rd and 5th.
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Maybe it is TB asking that the picks not be disclosed. Ever think of that? They wanted people to get excited about getting him before they let it out that they gave up a 2nd and a 3rd?
No way they gave up a 2nd and 3rd. I think Shefter has it right. It's likely a 2nd and 5th or a 3rd and 5th.
Masters said:
No way they gave up a 2nd and 3rd. I think Shefter has it right. It's likely a 2nd and 5th or a 3rd and 5th.I was thinking 2nd and 4th...but 2nd and 5th is probably more likely...or 2nd, 5th, 7th (TB has 2 this year)...or a 2nd this year with a conditional next year.
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Zombo said:
How long do you expect not to compete?In today's NFL there is NO excuse for not competing in a coach or regime's second year, let alone the first (Atlanta, Miami)
Zombo
He was down to 10 games last year...and his knee is just getting worse. Even if we compete in 2010...he may be limited to passing downs only...which then takes away his mismatches.
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for an undisclosed draft pick
espn just reported
for an undisclosed draft pick
espn just reported
According to the browns website winslow was traded to Tampa Bay for undisclosed draft picks. That would be plural. Just for the record, it had better be a
first and third this year and at least a second round next year, other wise Kokinas is a friggin moron. You piss off your pro-bowl nose tackle one week,
and then trade your best offensive weapon the next? REALLY?!?!? If this doesn't pan out we are screwed for years to come!!!
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Masters said:
No way they gave up a 2nd and 3rd. I think Shefter has it right. It's likely a 2nd and 5th or a 3rd and 5th.I was thinking 2nd and 4th...but 2nd and 5th is probably more likely...or 2nd, 5th, 7th (TB has 2 this year)...or a 2nd this year with a conditional next year.
I was thinking 2nd and 4th...but 2nd and 5th is probably more likely...or 2nd, 5th, 7th (TB has 2 this year)...or a 2nd this year with a conditional next year.
ManKoK is remaking the team in their image. I don't think they have any sympathy toward existing players at all. They have an image and they are going to get the players that fit their image. Which means we're probably going to stockpile picks.
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Masters said:
No way they gave up a 2nd and 3rd. I think Shefter has it right. It's likely a 2nd and 5th or a 3rd and 5th.I was thinking 2nd and 4th...but 2nd and 5th is probably more likely...or 2nd, 5th, 7th (TB has 2 this year)...or a 2nd this year with a conditional next year.
or a 2nd this year with a conditional next year.
That is a pretty good theory there too.
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The reason the draft picks are undisclosed is because they suck! If they didn't get at least a 2nd rounder Im gonna be xxxxing pissed! K2 is locked up for some time at a great price and well worth a first rd draft pick. Hell Shockey garnered a 2nd rounder and he is no where near K2! Looks like we'll be signing Chris Baker who doesn't equal K2's xxxxing turd. That or they have faith that Heiden and Rucker can fill his shoes yeah right!
Looks like Mangini was drinkin the koolaid from the Giants game where Winslow didnt play. Next thing we'll hear is DA is going to be the starter next season! GIVE ME A xxxxIN BREAK MANGINA YOU PRICK!
Maybe it is TB asking that the picks not be disclosed. Ever think of that? They wanted people to get excited about getting him before they let it out that they gave up a 2nd and a 3rd?
Maybe it is TB asking that the picks not be disclosed. Ever think of that? They wanted people to get excited about getting him before they let it out that they gave up a 2nd and a 3rd?
Tampa is obviously rebuilding there is no way they're trading away their 2 and 3 or 2 and 4. They have far too many needs after releasing half their defense and their coach is defensive minded so you know he's not mortgaging their draft for one player. We're getting xxxxed in this deal by a MANKOK!
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for an undisclosed draft pick
espn just reported
According to the browns website winslow was traded to Tampa Bay for undisclosed draft picks. That would be plural. Just for the record, it had better be a
first and third this year and at least a second round next year, other wise Kokinas is a friggin moron. You piss off your pro-bowl nose tackle one week,
and then trade your best offensive weapon the next? REALLY?!?!? If this doesn't pan out we are screwed for years to come!!!
According to the browns website winslow was traded to Tampa Bay for undisclosed draft picks. That would be plural. Just for the record, it had better be a
first and third this year and at least a second round next year, other wise Kokinas is a friggin moron. You piss off your pro-bowl nose tackle one week,
and then trade your best offensive weapon the next? REALLY?!?!? If this doesn't pan out we are screwed for years to come!!!
wow you really think that he's worth that much? there aren't too many people in the nfl worth that much. accept maybe kellen clemens
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Keep in mind this also frees up $3.6M under the cap.
Keep in mind this also frees up $3.6M under the cap.
For who? You know they aren't going to use if for anything other than bum rookies, yeah! we got two bums for a potential hall of famer!
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for you guys whining about his "shelf life" you act like winslow is kurt warner's age, the guy is 25 and has many great years to come, I am very upset that they traded him.
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According to the browns website winslow was traded to Tampa Bay for undisclosed draft picks. That would be plural. Just for the record, it had better be a
first and third this year and at least a second round next year, other wise Kokinas is a friggin moron. You piss off your pro-bowl nose tackle one week,
and then trade your best offensive weapon the next? REALLY?!?!? If this doesn't pan out we are screwed for years to come!!!
wow you really think that he's worth that much? there aren't too many people in the nfl worth that much. accept maybe kellen clemens
wow you really think that he's worth that much? there aren't too many people in the nfl worth that much. accept maybe kellen clemens
Ok, not the second round next year, but yes, i do think that Winslow is worth a first and a third this year.
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I never questioned his talent, but remember, Butch traded UP to draft him, which was a bone-head move on his part to begin with. The guy has never been a team player, on ANY level he's played at.
Yes, his hands may be second only to L Fitzgerald in the league, but if we can dump a "me me" guy and pick up some picks that have been lost in the process, so be it. Maybe we're planning on running the ball 50+ times a game, and he can't block your grandma.......
I never questioned his talent, but remember, Butch traded UP to draft him, which was a bone-head move on his part to begin with. The guy has never been a team player, on ANY level he's played at.
Yes, his hands may be second only to L Fitzgerald in the league, but if we can dump a "me me" guy and pick up some picks that have been lost in the process, so be it. Maybe we're planning on running the ball 50+ times a game, and he can't block your grandma.......
If we really want to dump a me me guy butterfingers is that guy...k2 at least played with everything he had BE needs to go for whatever we can get for him but his value wont be great but by next year im betting its even lower if he stays....
We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS! -
I'm curious as to why they haven't announced the compensation yet.
Two working theories:
- 1. They're waiting until KW passes a physical to announce the picks.
2. There are conditional picks involved, so they're breaking the initial story & leaving the complicated details for later.
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for an undisclosed draft pick
espn just reported
According to the browns website winslow was traded to Tampa Bay for undisclosed draft picks. That would be plural. Just for the record, it had better be a
first and third this year and at least a second round next year, other wise Kokinas is a friggin moron. You piss off your pro-bowl nose tackle one week,
and then trade your best offensive weapon the next? REALLY?!?!? If this doesn't pan out we are screwed for years to come!!!
According to the browns website winslow was traded to Tampa Bay for undisclosed draft picks. That would be plural. Just for the record, it had better be a
first and third this year and at least a second round next year, other wise Kokinas is a friggin moron. You piss off your pro-bowl nose tackle one week,
and then trade your best offensive weapon the next? REALLY?!?!? If this doesn't pan out we are screwed for years to come!!!
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. A ailing TE on bad knees who wants a new contract and has 2-4 years left in the league maybe. Were lucky we got anything for him. No to mention all the injuries, holding, and personal foul penalties he has gotten over the years. I like the guy but it if better's our team than so be it. If it's a 2 and 4 or 3 and and 6 round pick. We need picks period.
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Keep in mind this also frees up $3.6M under the cap.
Keep in mind this also frees up $3.6M under the cap.
3 mill for K2's services is a great bargain! Hey it can help go towards the 6 mill we owe that broken down joke of a RB!
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for you guys whining about his "shelf life" you act like winslow is kurt warner's age, the guy is 25 and has many great years to come, I am very upset that they traded him.
for you guys whining about his "shelf life" you act like winslow is kurt warner's age, the guy is 25 and has many great years to come, I am very upset that they traded him.
People mean his shelf life because of his knees. He probably does only have 2-3 high level years left before those knees totally go out. I'll miss him and can't say I am thrilled by him being traded. But he ain't gonna play past 32 at best.
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I never questioned his talent, but remember, Butch traded UP to draft him, which was a bone-head move on his part to begin with. The guy has never been a team player, on ANY level he's played at.
Yes, his hands may be second only to L Fitzgerald in the league, but if we can dump a "me me" guy and pick up some picks that have been lost in the process, so be it. Maybe we're planning on running the ball 50+ times a game, and he can't block your grandma.......
If we really want to dump a me me guy butterfingers is that guy...k2 at least played with everything he had BE needs to go for whatever we can get for him but his value wont be great but by next year im betting its even lower if he stays....
If we really want to dump a me me guy butterfingers is that guy...k2 at least played with everything he had BE needs to go for whatever we can get for him but his value wont be great but by next year im betting its even lower if he stays....
I agree that BE is nearly useless and should be dumped but you are going to get less for him than you did for Frye, so now we have 2 wide outs that aren't
worth the price of admission (BE and DS) and we are stuck with them, so what do we do? trade the only good one left of course. I stick with Kokinas is a moron
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I'm curious as to why they haven't announced the compensation yet.
Two working theories:
- 1. They're waiting until KW passes a physical to announce the picks.
2. There are conditional picks involved, so they're breaking the initial story & leaving the complicated details for later.
Aloysius said:
I'm curious as to why they haven't announced the compensation yet.Two working theories:
- 1. They're waiting until KW passes a physical to announce the picks.
2. There are conditional picks involved, so they're breaking the initial story & leaving the complicated details for later.
i heard that the bucs may announce the picks at their 1 o'clock press conference
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