STALLWORTH UPDATE
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I think you can fool them at .12 Peen . Really just takes concentration , and old pros can pull it off .
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Browns WR Donte Stallworth's Blood Alcohol Level Over Legal Limit!
Oh no it might be jail time.
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the thing is that a level of .12 affects everyone differently. A person who drinks frequently may be able to drive at .12. a lightweight will probably wreck their car at .12.
He may have seemed sober to the cops because he can handle the alcohol.
It's still wrong, as any amount can affect your ability to drive. But he may be able to function somewhat normally at .12.
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Being a professional athlete, he was probably able to pull off the sobriety tests better than the average drunk
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Being a professional athlete, he was probably able to pull off the sobriety tests better than the average drunk
Being a professional athlete, he was probably able to pull off the sobriety tests better than the average drunk
The story about his BA level is pure speculation at this point.
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The fact that IF he had anything in his system means he's screwed. We are talking about a fatality here.
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The fact that IF he had anything in his system means he's screwed. We are talking about a fatality here.
TheJokersWILD said:
The fact that he had anything in his system means he's screwed. We are talking about a fatality here.Again..... the news report about the BA level is unverified, unconfirmed, fabricated.
Just because the news claims his BA level was .12 doesn't mean that he indeed had something in his system.
At this point nothing has been established except time and cause of death.
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on a personal level, if this report is accurate and he was drunk, i hope he at least goes to prison for the rest of his life. the victim's family needs some serious, old-school justice, and prison is a start, though having him executed would, to me, be a far superior solution.
from a business standpoint, goodell's going to kick stallworth out of the league because he drove drunk and killed someone. the league will likely suspend him indefinitely pending the results of his trial, then formally kick him out once he's found guilty, thus negating his contract entirely and saving us the cap hit. goodell might kick him out even if he wasn't drunk.
in the event he's found innocent, we'll have to take either the cap hit or the PR hit, and i know which one mankok will go for.
this is a very interesting test for goodell, and i'm surprised he hasn't already taken action. he needs to, and soon.
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on a personal level, if this report is accurate and he was drunk, i hope he at least goes to prison for the rest of his life. the victim's family needs some serious, old-school justice, and prison is a start, though having him executed would, to me, be a far superior solution.
from a business standpoint, goodell's going to kick stallworth out of the league because he drove drunk and killed someone. the league will likely suspend him indefinitely pending the results of his trial, then formally kick him out once he's found guilty, thus negating his contract entirely and saving us the cap hit. goodell might kick him out even if he wasn't drunk.
in the event he's found innocent, we'll have to take either the cap hit or the PR hit, and i know which one mankok will go for.
this is a very interesting test for goodell, and i'm surprised he hasn't already taken action. he needs to, and soon.
on a personal level, if he was drunk, i hope he at least goes to prison for the rest of his life. the victim's family needs some serious, old-school justice, and prison is a start, though having him executed would, to me, be a far superior solution.
from a business standpoint, goodell's going to kick stallworth out of the league because he drove drunk and killed someone. the league will likely suspend him indefinitely pending the results of his trial, then formally kick him out once he's found guilty, thus negating his contract entirely and saving us the cap hit.
in the event he's found innocent, we'll have to take either the cap hit or the PR hit, and i know which one mankok will go for.
this is a very interesting test for goodell, and i'm surprised he hasn't already taken action. he needs to, and soon.
How can Goodell take action on an issue that has not fully been verified yet? Secondly... you would like to see him spend the rest of his life in jail? My twin nephews were shot and killed a week ago along with their mother, sister and aunt. The man who did it... went to jail for murder once before and was released. Those... type of individuals should spend life in prison! Stallworth most likely got wasted earlier that night/morning... slept till 7ish and headed home with a freakish hangover and accidently hit this poor man. Yet he deserves life or the death pen.??? What kind of justice is that? Correctional Facilities are supposed to "correct" not torture for life ones -ONE mistake.
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on a personal level, if he was drunk, i hope he at least goes to prison for the rest of his life. the victim's family needs some serious, old-school justice, and prison is a start, though having him executed would, to me, be a far superior solution.
from a business standpoint, goodell's going to kick stallworth out of the league because he drove drunk and killed someone. the league will likely suspend him indefinitely pending the results of his trial, then formally kick him out once he's found guilty, thus negating his contract entirely and saving us the cap hit.
in the event he's found innocent, we'll have to take either the cap hit or the PR hit, and i know which one mankok will go for.
this is a very interesting test for goodell, and i'm surprised he hasn't already taken action. he needs to, and soon.
How can Goodell take action on an issue that has not fully been verified yet? Secondly... you would like to see him spend the rest of his life in jail? My twin nephews were shot and killed a week ago along with their mother, sister and aunt. The man who did it... went to jail for murder once before and was released. Those... type of individuals should spend life in prison! Stallworth most likely got wasted earlier that night/morning... slept till 7ish and headed home with a freakish hangover and accidently hit this poor man. Yet he deserves life or the death pen.??? What kind of justice is that? Correctional Facilities are supposed to "correct" not torture for life ones -ONE mistake.
How can Goodell take action on an issue that has not fully been verified yet? Secondly... you would like to see him spend the rest of his life in jail? My twin nephews were shot and killed a week ago along with their mother, sister and aunt. The man who did it... went to jail for murder once before and was released. Those... type of individuals should spend life in prison! Stallworth most likely got wasted earlier that night/morning... slept till 7ish and headed home with a freakish hangover and accidently hit this poor man. Yet he deserves life or the death pen.??? What kind of justice is that? Correctional Facilities are supposed to "correct" not torture for life ones -ONE mistake.
first, i'm sorry for your loss. i can't imagine your pain, and i'm sorry you have to go through it. it's terrible, and i hope the person who did it at least goes to prison for the rest of his life.
on goodell: he can take action right now because we already know that stallworth was operating a vehicle that killed someone. that's reason enough for him to be suspended pending investigation.
and i can't decide whether you're right or not about whether i overreacted re: his punishment, though my initial assessment was based on his being drunk. i personally believe, which isn't something that anyone else has to agree with, that people who simply get caught driving drunk should either lose their licenses for five years or face insane, crippling fines. when adding manslaughter to that belief, it's not unreasonable, to me, that he go to prison for an extended term. DUI manslaughter represents such a severe lapse in, or utter lack of, judgment that the person who commits it obviously has little to no grasp of how to function in society.
and correctional facilities don't help people. our current system of rehabilitating criminals psychologically damages people far more than rebuilding them, but that's a completely different debate.
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If he was really .12, I can't understand why he was released rather than booked on the spot. .12 isn't so close you might fake out the officers......you slur pretty good at that point.
Something just isn't adding up at this point. We will just have to wait and see......but right now, it looks like Dainty is in a pretty hard place right now.
If he was really .12, I can't understand why he was released rather than booked on the spot. .12 isn't so close you might fake out the officers......you slur pretty good at that point.
Something just isn't adding up at this point. We will just have to wait and see......but right now, it looks like Dainty is in a pretty hard place right now.
There are plenty of people who don't slur at .12 and people who do at below .08. Alcohol does not effect everyone the same. Also keep in mind police didn't pull him over. They were on the scene after the accident. A accident like that can certainly sober up a persons senses as well as cloud things for a cop. You run down someone, you are not going to be speaking clearly either way.
At the end of the day, Stallworth was a dd, and he is gonna see time.
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If he was really .12, I can't understand why he was released rather than booked on the spot. .12 isn't so close you might fake out the officers......you slur pretty good at that point.
Something just isn't adding up at this point. We will just have to wait and see......but right now, it looks like Dainty is in a pretty hard place right now.
There are plenty of people who don't slur at .12 and people who do at below .08. Alcohol does not effect everyone the same. Also keep in mind police didn't pull him over. They were on the scene after the accident. A accident like that can certainly sober up a persons senses as well as cloud things for a cop. You run down someone, you are not going to be speaking clearly either way.
At the end of the day, Stallworth was a dd, and he is gonna see time.
Masters said:
There are plenty of people who don't slur at .12 and people who do at below .08. Alcohol does not effect everyone the same. Also keep in mind police didn't pull him over. They were on the scene after the accident. A accident like that can certainly sober up a persons senses as well as cloud things for a cop. You run down someone, you are not going to be speaking clearly either way.At the end of the day, Stallworth was a dd, and he is gonna see time.
Lesson for the day, keep a syringe full of adrenaline in your glove box in case you get pulled over while drunk!
And a vile of insulin to look legit.
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Masters said:
There are plenty of people who don't slur at .12 and people who do at below .08. Alcohol does not effect everyone the same. Also keep in mind police didn't pull him over. They were on the scene after the accident. A accident like that can certainly sober up a persons senses as well as cloud things for a cop. You run down someone, you are not going to be speaking clearly either way.At the end of the day, Stallworth was a dd, and he is gonna see time.
Lesson for the day, keep a syringe full of adrenaline in your glove box in case you get pulled over while drunk!
And a vile of insulin to look legit.
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If you haven't seen it, there is a video from the accident scene on a MIA newpaper.
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I know a couple of Trumbull County sheriff's deputies and said he is screwed IF he has even the slightest of anything in his blood because it was a fataility.
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TheJokersWILD said:
The fact that he had anything in his system means he's screwed. We are talking about a fatality here.Again..... the news report about the BA level is unverified, unconfirmed, fabricated.
Just because the news claims his BA level was .12 doesn't mean that he indeed had something in his system.
At this point nothing has been established except time and cause of death.
AdaM said:
Again..... the news report about the BA level is unverified, unconfirmed, fabricated.Just because the news claims his BA level was .12 doesn't mean that he indeed had something in his system.
At this point nothing has been established except time and cause of death.
I fixed it.
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on a personal level, if this report is accurate and he was drunk, i hope he at least goes to prison for the rest of his life. the victim's family needs some serious, old-school justice, and prison is a start, though having him executed would, to me, be a far superior solution.
from a business standpoint, goodell's going to kick stallworth out of the league because he drove drunk and killed someone. the league will likely suspend him indefinitely pending the results of his trial, then formally kick him out once he's found guilty, thus negating his contract entirely and saving us the cap hit. goodell might kick him out even if he wasn't drunk.
in the event he's found innocent, we'll have to take either the cap hit or the PR hit, and i know which one mankok will go for.
this is a very interesting test for goodell, and i'm surprised he hasn't already taken action. he needs to, and soon.
on a personal level, if this report is accurate and he was drunk, i hope he at least goes to prison for the rest of his life. the victim's family needs some serious, old-school justice, and prison is a start, though having him executed would, to me, be a far superior solution.
LOL.....geesh
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