My Silly Observations of Sat's first pads scrimmage - Browns
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Love these threads on camp. Thanks Cal, Mud and Canton.
Malcolm "Big Nuts and" Johnson is getting rave reviews. Maybe folks will finally quit pining for Vickers and stop remembering the glory days of the Owen Marecic era.
Terrelle "I Have" Pryor's is winning a lot of folks over, from coaches, to players on both sides of the ball, to fans and media. Crazy athlete. I would venture to say that he was the biggest recruit to come out of high school in years, and it was due to his astounding athletic ability. This guy was a big time hoopster in PA also, so that ability is definitely showing up now at WR.
Hearing good things about Kevin Cone also. The Sirius guys yesterday said that the Browns WR corps is as deep as any and whoever is last cut will be picked up immediately. That is strange, all I heard all offseason was that our receivers couldn't make the Lingerie League.
Hoping to hear more about the Duke and he needs to stay healthy. Liking "Mild, Mild" West is a chore for me but here is to Crow hanging onto the ball and Duke staying on the field.
Love these threads on camp. Thanks Cal, Mud and Canton.
Malcolm "Big Nuts and" Johnson is getting rave reviews. Maybe folks will finally quit pining for Vickers and stop remembering the glory days of the Owen Marecic era.
Terrelle "I Have" Pryor's is winning a lot of folks over, from coaches, to players on both sides of the ball, to fans and media. Crazy athlete. I would venture to say that he was the biggest recruit to come out of high school in years, and it was due to his astounding athletic ability. This guy was a big time hoopster in PA also, so that ability is definitely showing up now at WR.
Hearing good things about Kevin Cone also. The Sirius guys yesterday said that the Browns WR corps is as deep as any and whoever is last cut will be picked up immediately. That is strange, all I heard all offseason was that our receivers couldn't make the Lingerie League.
Hoping to hear more about the Duke and he needs to stay healthy. Liking "Mild, Mild" West is a chore for me but here is to Crow hanging onto the ball and Duke staying on the field.
Just when I thought it was safe to drink a beverage over the laptop, you break out some classic nicknames.
That hoops background for Pryor can really come in handy in the red zone. Look at Ga Tech popping out WRs like DeMaryius Thomas, Calvin Johnson and now Kevin Cone.
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Nice write up Cal......and thanks to Canton Mike from me too
......was a fun day!Playing off your points.....
1) Haden was a monster yesterday. Wayyyyyyyyy ahead of his slow start from last season. A man amongst boys, he was....
D) McCown looked good again....arm looks pretty accurate and has all the muscle needed to get the job done....and Shaw had the best(and biggest) play of the day......just keeps on keeping on.....Based purely on performance, he is clearly my #2 at this point...
E) Eggsactly....JFF looks like he's really thinking hard.....nothing natural or comfy about how he moves around.....robotic....
F) DB's owned the day!.....really....they were all over everybody......amazed that anyone completed a pass, actually.....
G) It looked to me like it was Jamie Meder going after someone....(Bowie???)......think he was getting a lil frustrated there......
I) It was just you...
......the WR I kept noticing and the one who caught everything thrown his way was.......Josh Lenz....he looked great!J) Housler...hmm....had some drops......Gary Barnidge, on the other hand, looked very good to me......
Other observations.......
Marcus Johnson......yes!......he looks pretty bad ass if you're asking me and got lots of reps.....had several nice catches and is tough as nails with the ball in his hands.....can take and deliver the big hit !!!!!!...
Josh Lenz(as mentioned above) is way down the WR list, but he caught ball after ball.....forced me to notice him....
Gilbert ripped a KO and would have taken it to the house if it was a real game.....dude can flat out run !!!!
West REALLY looked good......really good.....broke several runs....hit the hole with authority.....no dancing....
Thanks Mud! That's cool you diehards got to meet and enjoy the practice together.
Us out of state fans really appreciate this. The NFL Channel can't quite lose it's queer eye for the NE Patriots, Seattle Seahawks, and Dallas Cowboys. Breaking news: Tom Brady drank water and took a couple power squirts yesterday. Russell Wilson got paid and so did Bobby Wagner.
That's good news about West. Early on last year I had to hyphenate his last name to Eastand-West until Wilbert Montgomery coached away all those false steps.
Josh Lenz - I am aware and now intrigued.
Did you mean Malcolm Johnson (#44)? He is a badass. Miss State was on a lot here in Nashville. There was a play he absolutely lambasted a blitzing LBer that had a full head of steam while he was in a stationary 2 point waiting to show why he's a reliable FB. That LBer was looking out his earhole when he was trying to get off his fanny after the play. Johnson also has good hands. That #44 in Cleveland has a pretty good tradition and it sounds like Malcolm could wear it well.
Unfortunately with the knock on Doogie Housler to date has been the Edward Scissorhands within that has haunted promising body frames of Quincey Morgan and Greg Little. If Doogie is down to 220 lbs as a TE, he's gonna have to improve that real soon or our coaching staff is going to wonder what he's offering us. That said, it was only the second or 3rd day of training camp.
Great to hear about Shaw; and I hope Johnny keeps battling through it. Sounds like JFF had a good day the day before so onward and upward.
Thanks Mud! That's cool you diehards got to meet and enjoy the practice together.
Did you mean Malcolm Johnson (#44)? He is a badass. Miss State was on a lot here in Nashville. There was a play he absolutely lambasted a blitzing LBer that had a full head of steam while he was in a stationary 2 point waiting to show why he's a reliable FB. That LBer was looking out his earhole when he was trying to get off his fanny after the play. Johnson also has good hands. That #44 in Cleveland has a pretty good tradition and it sounds like Malcolm could wear it well.
Yeah...it was a nice day....
Yep....Malcolm, my bad......one play had him catching the ball, while being the bologna of the sandwich, between 2 slices of DB.....a big crash....2 DB's on the ground.....and Malcolm is running with the ball.....very impressive.....
Thanks cal and mud for the write-ups. Seems like Pryor has become serious competition for the 1st string WR's. With speed and size like that it seems our rough diamond is polishing up quite quickly.
Question for you mud. Why was JF so different on Sat. vs. Fri.? Was he playing with the same personnel against the same personnel? Was he "thinking" Fri. or being more the instinctive player he was famous for being? To what do you attribute this very obvious difference in play?
I cant say for sure, other than yesterday the DB's put on the pads....tightened their chin straps and made the QB's day very difficult....
Johnny, Id say is just kind of inconsistent right now.....all the QB's were rotating around alot, so he worked with several groups.....my one take away is that, to me, he looks very stiff.....very deliberate in his movements.....and definitely seems to hold the ball longer than he should.....not sure if he's not seeing it?... or why though. But a lot of his throws seem late and a little behind. The DB's were knocking them down left and right....while McCown, for instance, seems to lead the WR's better and get the ball out much faster.....
Im thinking reps and more reps for Johnny to get comfy and get back to playing in a more natural way.....
Nice write up and observations.
Gives quite a bit different impression than what the Media pundits have given me, particularly on Manziel - they've been saying he's missed hardly any throws.
That would have been Friday....he hit almost every single one......Thursday & Saturday?.....not so much....
I have some of my own....
1) I see guys working hard & no one "going through the motions" as in years past. My thoughts on this is the Play like a Brown philosophy.
3) Where did all these WRs come from? Keep in mind they are working against a VERY solid looking bunch of DBs & doing well.
Summary...Great day topped off with Mud taking home a good looking dog! Congrats & I'll let Mud describe the pup.
Agreed Mike.....Ive been attending TC since the Lakeland days and this is as solid a group as Ive ever seen....a very focused and well run practice......and those guys are working!!
WR group is MUCH better than they are credited with being......a versatile mix of talent/size/etc.....they will be better than fine!
And, yes, a new member was added to my family....been mourning my recently passed buddy 'ludwig the dawg' and, yesterday, met a new friend that needed a home....."Haden Bean Shelton III"........it was fate.....got a dog watching the Dawgs.....
Thanks Mike! How bout that? Mud adding to the Dawg Pound. Makes sense...
Yep....kind of just happened....but we are both happy it did.....
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Whenever I think of Malcolm Johnson Charles Clay comes to mind.
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Would also mention that Draughn had a lot of reps.....Im sure due to West, Johnson and Winston all sitting some......but he looked very solid and was also receiving reps at KR......
Not sure why Winston cant practice or how injured he is, but he might need to worry about this guy Draughn......
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Love these threads on camp. Thanks Cal, Mud and Canton.
Malcolm "Big Nuts and" Johnson is getting rave reviews. Maybe folks will finally quit pining for Vickers and stop remembering the glory days of the Owen Marecic era.
Terrelle "I Have" Pryor's is winning a lot of folks over, from coaches, to players on both sides of the ball, to fans and media. Crazy athlete. I would venture to say that he was the biggest recruit to come out of high school in years, and it was due to his astounding athletic ability. This guy was a big time hoopster in PA also, so that ability is definitely showing up now at WR.
Hearing good things about Kevin Cone also. The Sirius guys yesterday said that the Browns WR corps is as deep as any and whoever is last cut will be picked up immediately. That is strange, all I heard all offseason was that our receivers couldn't make the Lingerie League.
Hoping to hear more about the Duke and he needs to stay healthy. Liking "Mild, Mild" West is a chore for me but here is to Crow hanging onto the ball and Duke staying on the field.
Just when I thought it was safe to drink a beverage over the laptop, you break out some classic nicknames.
That hoops background for Pryor can really come in handy in the red zone. Look at Ga Tech popping out WRs like DeMaryius Thomas, Calvin Johnson and now Kevin Cone.
That hoops background for Pryor can really come in handy in the red zone. Look at Ga Tech popping out WRs like DeMaryius Thomas, Calvin Johnson and now Kevin Cone.
Mike Evans came to A&M with major basketball background and converted to WR from power forward his redshirt freshman year. He is only an inch taller that Pryor but they have similar abilities otherwise. I think he will be the biggest surprise in the NFL this year and a real coup for our coaching staff.
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That hoops background for Pryor can really come in handy in the red zone. Look at Ga Tech popping out WRs like DeMaryius Thomas, Calvin Johnson and now Kevin Cone.
Mike Evans came to A&M with major basketball background and converted to WR from power forward his redshirt freshman year. He is only an inch taller that Pryor but they have similar abilities otherwise. I think he will be the biggest surprise in the NFL this year and a real coup for our coaching staff.
Mike Evans came to A&M with major basketball background and converted to WR from power forward his redshirt freshman year. He is only an inch taller that Pryor but they have similar abilities otherwise. I think he will be the biggest surprise in the NFL this year and a real coup for our coaching staff.
Mike Evans.....a good comparable.....
So, if Pryor masters it....he has the potential to become a Mike Evans...with extra speeeed.!
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Would also mention that Draughn had a lot of reps.....Im sure due to West, Johnson and Winston all sitting some......but he looked very solid and was also receiving reps at KR......
Not sure why Winston cant practice or how injured he is, but he might need to worry about this guy Draughn......
Would also mention that Draughn had a lot of reps.....Im sure due to West, Johnson and Winston all sitting some......but he looked very solid and was also receiving reps at KR......
Not sure why Winston cant practice or how injured he is, but he might need to worry about this guy Draughn......
Draughn is another good looking player. Wouldn't count him out. I do think the Winston legend is about to die as fast as Ben Gay's.
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Would also mention that Draughn had a lot of reps.....Im sure due to West, Johnson and Winston all sitting some......but he looked very solid and was also receiving reps at KR......
Not sure why Winston cant practice or how injured he is, but he might need to worry about this guy Draughn......
Draughn is another good looking player. Wouldn't count him out. I do think the Winston legend is about to die as fast as Ben Gay's.
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Thanks Mud! That's cool you diehards got to meet and enjoy the practice together.
Did you mean Malcolm Johnson (#44)? He is a badass. Miss State was on a lot here in Nashville. There was a play he absolutely lambasted a blitzing LBer that had a full head of steam while he was in a stationary 2 point waiting to show why he's a reliable FB. That LBer was looking out his earhole when he was trying to get off his fanny after the play. Johnson also has good hands. That #44 in Cleveland has a pretty good tradition and it sounds like Malcolm could wear it well.
Yeah...it was a nice day....
Yep....Malcolm, my bad......one play had him catching the ball, while being the bologna of the sandwich, between 2 slices of DB.....a big crash....2 DB's on the ground.....and Malcolm is running with the ball.....very impressive.....
Thanks cal and mud for the write-ups. Seems like Pryor has become serious competition for the 1st string WR's. With speed and size like that it seems our rough diamond is polishing up quite quickly.
Question for you mud. Why was JF so different on Sat. vs. Fri.? Was he playing with the same personnel against the same personnel? Was he "thinking" Fri. or being more the instinctive player he was famous for being? To what do you attribute this very obvious difference in play?
I cant say for sure, other than yesterday the DB's put on the pads....tightened their chin straps and made the QB's day very difficult....
Johnny, Id say is just kind of inconsistent right now.....all the QB's were rotating around alot, so he worked with several groups.....my one take away is that, to me, he looks very stiff.....very deliberate in his movements.....and definitely seems to hold the ball longer than he should.....not sure if he's not seeing it?... or why though. But a lot of his throws seem late and a little behind. The DB's were knocking them down left and right....while McCown, for instance, seems to lead the WR's better and get the ball out much faster.....
Im thinking reps and more reps for Johnny to get comfy and get back to playing in a more natural way.....
Nice write up and observations.
Gives quite a bit different impression than what the Media pundits have given me, particularly on Manziel - they've been saying he's missed hardly any throws.
That would have been Friday....he hit almost every single one......Thursday & Saturday?.....not so much....
I have some of my own....
1) I see guys working hard & no one "going through the motions" as in years past. My thoughts on this is the Play like a Brown philosophy.
3) Where did all these WRs come from? Keep in mind they are working against a VERY solid looking bunch of DBs & doing well.
Summary...Great day topped off with Mud taking home a good looking dog! Congrats & I'll let Mud describe the pup.
Agreed Mike.....Ive been attending TC since the Lakeland days and this is as solid a group as Ive ever seen....a very focused and well run practice......and those guys are working!!
WR group is MUCH better than they are credited with being......a versatile mix of talent/size/etc.....they will be better than fine!
And, yes, a new member was added to my family....been mourning my recently passed buddy 'ludwig the dawg' and, yesterday, met a new friend that needed a home....."Haden Bean Shelton III"........it was fate.....got a dog watching the Dawgs.....
Thanks Mike! How bout that? Mud adding to the Dawg Pound. Makes sense...
Yep....kind of just happened....but we are both happy it did.....
And, yes, a new member was added to my family....been mourning my recently passed buddy 'ludwig the dawg' and, yesterday, met a new friend that needed a home....."Haden Bean Shelton III"........it was fate.....got a dog watching the Dawgs.....
Yep....kind of just happened....but we are both happy it did.....
good man. class act all the way.
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Mike Evans came to A&M with major basketball background and converted to WR from power forward his redshirt freshman year. He is only an inch taller that Pryor but they have similar abilities otherwise. I think he will be the biggest surprise in the NFL this year and a real coup for our coaching staff.
Mike Evans.....a good comparable.....
So, if Pryor masters it....he has the potential to become a Mike Evans...with extra speeeed.!
Mike Evans.....a good comparable.....
So, if Pryor masters it....he has the potential to become a Mike Evans...with extra speeeed.!
And since Mary Kay reported he got to go with the 1's, that is a great sign the Browns know exactly what they have. This is gonna get to be awesome this fall.
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Mike Evans.....a good comparable.....
So, if Pryor masters it....he has the potential to become a Mike Evans...with extra speeeed.!
And since Mary Kay reported he got to go with the 1's, that is a great sign the Browns know exactly what they have. This is gonna get to be awesome this fall.
And since Mary Kay reported he got to go with the 1's, that is a great sign the Browns know exactly what they have. This is gonna get to be awesome this fall.
Here's a nice quote from Terry Pluto(the most sane reporter covering the Browns).....
13. The Browns coaches are trying not to become too excited about Terrelle Pryor...but you can tell, they are excited. As Pettine said, "He's not looked out of place...he's ahead of where we thought he'd be."
And, now practicing with the #1's.......could we get lucky here?.......(we're due)......
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And since Mary Kay reported he got to go with the 1's, that is a great sign the Browns know exactly what they have. This is gonna get to be awesome this fall.
Here's a nice quote from Terry Pluto(the most sane reporter covering the Browns).....
13. The Browns coaches are trying not to become too excited about Terrelle Pryor...but you can tell, they are excited. As Pettine said, "He's not looked out of place...he's ahead of where we thought he'd be."
And, now practicing with the #1's.......could we get lucky here?.......(we're due)......
Here's a nice quote from Terry Pluto(the most sane reporter covering the Browns).....
13. The Browns coaches are trying not to become too excited about Terrelle Pryor...but you can tell, they are excited. As Pettine said, "He's not looked out of place...he's ahead of where we thought he'd be."
And, now practicing with the #1's.......could we get lucky here?.......(we're due)......
It would be a hell of a deal if he is.
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And since Mary Kay reported he got to go with the 1's, that is a great sign the Browns know exactly what they have. This is gonna get to be awesome this fall.
Here's a nice quote from Terry Pluto(the most sane reporter covering the Browns).....
13. The Browns coaches are trying not to become too excited about Terrelle Pryor...but you can tell, they are excited. As Pettine said, "He's not looked out of place...he's ahead of where we thought he'd be."
And, now practicing with the #1's.......could we get lucky here?.......(we're due)......
to be fair, Marlon Moore was also getting reps with the ones....Here's a nice quote from Terry Pluto(the most sane reporter covering the Browns).....
13. The Browns coaches are trying not to become too excited about Terrelle Pryor...but you can tell, they are excited. As Pettine said, "He's not looked out of place...he's ahead of where we thought he'd be."
And, now practicing with the #1's.......could we get lucky here?.......(we're due)......
So I wouldn't get too excited about Pryor getting reps with ones, as pettine has simply been rotating many guys at many different positikns.
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Thanks Mud! That's cool you diehards got to meet and enjoy the practice together.
Did you mean Malcolm Johnson (#44)? He is a badass. Miss State was on a lot here in Nashville. There was a play he absolutely lambasted a blitzing LBer that had a full head of steam while he was in a stationary 2 point waiting to show why he's a reliable FB. That LBer was looking out his earhole when he was trying to get off his fanny after the play. Johnson also has good hands. That #44 in Cleveland has a pretty good tradition and it sounds like Malcolm could wear it well.
Yeah...it was a nice day....
Yep....Malcolm, my bad......one play had him catching the ball, while being the bologna of the sandwich, between 2 slices of DB.....a big crash....2 DB's on the ground.....and Malcolm is running with the ball.....very impressive.....
Thanks cal and mud for the write-ups. Seems like Pryor has become serious competition for the 1st string WR's. With speed and size like that it seems our rough diamond is polishing up quite quickly.
Question for you mud. Why was JF so different on Sat. vs. Fri.? Was he playing with the same personnel against the same personnel? Was he "thinking" Fri. or being more the instinctive player he was famous for being? To what do you attribute this very obvious difference in play?
I cant say for sure, other than yesterday the DB's put on the pads....tightened their chin straps and made the QB's day very difficult....
Johnny, Id say is just kind of inconsistent right now.....all the QB's were rotating around alot, so he worked with several groups.....my one take away is that, to me, he looks very stiff.....very deliberate in his movements.....and definitely seems to hold the ball longer than he should.....not sure if he's not seeing it?... or why though. But a lot of his throws seem late and a little behind. The DB's were knocking them down left and right....while McCown, for instance, seems to lead the WR's better and get the ball out much faster.....
Im thinking reps and more reps for Johnny to get comfy and get back to playing in a more natural way.....
Nice write up and observations.
Gives quite a bit different impression than what the Media pundits have given me, particularly on Manziel - they've been saying he's missed hardly any throws.
That would have been Friday....he hit almost every single one......Thursday & Saturday?.....not so much....
I have some of my own....
1) I see guys working hard & no one "going through the motions" as in years past. My thoughts on this is the Play like a Brown philosophy.
3) Where did all these WRs come from? Keep in mind they are working against a VERY solid looking bunch of DBs & doing well.
Summary...Great day topped off with Mud taking home a good looking dog! Congrats & I'll let Mud describe the pup.
Agreed Mike.....Ive been attending TC since the Lakeland days and this is as solid a group as Ive ever seen....a very focused and well run practice......and those guys are working!!
WR group is MUCH better than they are credited with being......a versatile mix of talent/size/etc.....they will be better than fine!
And, yes, a new member was added to my family....been mourning my recently passed buddy 'ludwig the dawg' and, yesterday, met a new friend that needed a home....."Haden Bean Shelton III"........it was fate.....got a dog watching the Dawgs.....
Thanks Mike! How bout that? Mud adding to the Dawg Pound. Makes sense...
Yep....kind of just happened....but we are both happy it did.....
But Marlon Moore wasn't a QB like yesterday...
Great thread start, cal... not often do you see a 6-pack (root beer of course) of +1's for a post... well earned.
Im thinking reps and more reps for Johnny to get comfy and get back to playing in a more natural way.....
....."Haden Bean Shelton III"...
Who is "Bean"?
Once we accept that last season was essentially a total loss for JM, then it becomes easy to accept his mechanical look this early. Reps should improve things, but it's more mental than physical. That light that illuminates the hallway from the film room to the practice field has to switch on.
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Pre season is going to show us a lot about Johnny. Will he settle into the pocket and stand tall (no joke intended)? Will he go through multiple reads, or simply stare at his primary receiver and tuck it and run if he's covered? Will he show any signs of getting better than he was last year, and do so against vanilla defenses?
If in his 2nd year the answer isn't a resounding yes to all of those questions, we all may just have our answer regarding our 1st round pick.
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Pre season is going to show us a lot about Johnny. Will he settle into the pocket and stand tall (no joke intended)? Will he go through multiple reads, or simply stare at his primary receiver and tuck it and run if he's covered? Will he show any signs of getting better than he was last year, and do so against vanilla defenses?
If in his 2nd year the answer isn't a resounding yes to all of those questions, we all may just have our answer regarding our 1st round pick.
Pre season is going to show us a lot about Johnny. Will he settle into the pocket and stand tall (no joke intended)? Will he go through multiple reads, or simply stare at his primary receiver and tuck it and run if he's covered? Will he show any signs of getting better than he was last year, and do so against vanilla defenses?
If in his 2nd year the answer isn't a resounding yes to all of those questions, we all may just have our answer regarding our 1st round pick.
10 days till we play.....cant wait to see some of these guys in action.....
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Pre season is going to show us a lot about Johnny. Will he settle into the pocket and stand tall (no joke intended)? Will he go through multiple reads, or simply stare at his primary receiver and tuck it and run if he's covered? Will he show any signs of getting better than he was last year, and do so against vanilla defenses?
If in his 2nd year the answer isn't a resounding yes to all of those questions, we all may just have our answer regarding our 1st round pick.
10 days till we play.....cant wait to see some of these guys in action.....
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