Justin Gilbert

wargograw

@d-bone said:

Ahhh, the poor little fella. Maybe we should all send him Valentines Day candies wrapped in a "You're doing great" ribbon.

BTW, that +1 rep on your post is from me when I accidentally hit it instead of 'quote' - you're welcome

Nobody wants any prima donnas on their team until they turn around and see the complete dearth of talent. It's a balancing act. But at this point people just get off to saying "I told you he sucks!" to the point where he can do no right. He could put 4 straight amazing practices together in a row and they'd all be overshadowed by one screw up.

Tim Couch Pulls Out

@wargograw said:
Nobody wants any prima donnas on their team until they turn around and see the complete dearth of talent. It's a balancing act. But at this point people just get off to saying "I told you he sucks!" to the point where he can do no right. He could put 4 straight amazing practices together in a row and they'd all be overshadowed by one screw up.

This post will be valid when he puts 4 straight amazing practices together.

Tour2ma

@mudfly said:
Wouldnt surprise me......I know Pettine and Rexy scripted most of the practice.....sooooo, maybe Rex is filling a request from his buddy....

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:
I like the thought of that and, if it is indeed the case, it would put Rex Ryan near the top of my list when it comes to great coaches and individuals.

I don't see that Rex has to necessarily any credit if what I hypothesized is anywhere near the truth. O'Neal just has to keep strength on the field opposite Gilbert and put Gilbert on "an island" with his play calls. Even Cassell and Tyrod should be able to find him...

Plus I am loathe to give Rexy credit for anything... ever... so there's that.

wargograw

@furious-styles said:
Yep. It's the fans fault. Don't be too critical. wouldn't want a pro NFL players self esteem to suffer. No need to worry about AJ Green, Brown or Steve Smith, but those fans !

Unrelentingly tell those guys they suck for a year straight and see if they perform the way they do.

wargograw

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

This post will be valid when he puts 4 straight amazing practices together.

You wouldn't hear about it if he did.

Tim Couch Pulls Out

@wargograw said:
You wouldn't hear about it if he did.

I would, just like everyone else here.

Because you'd tell us.

Zombo

Just read a tweet that he went down in pain in end zone tonight. Hope he is alright.

Z

Zombo

Hip Flexor.

We sure are going to be short-handed Thursday night.

Justin Gilbert injured early in final Browns-Bills practice

Posted by Zac Jackson on August 18, 2015, 7:12 PM EDT

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Second-year Browns cornerback Justin Gilbert had quite a day Monday when the Browns and Bills held a joint practice in Rochester.

Tuesday, he had a much shorter day. Gilbert left early in the teams’ final joint practice session after going down and needing an assist from team trainers to get up and head to the sideline.

Trainers placed ice and a protective wrap on Gilbert’s right quad, and he watched the rest of practice from the sideline. After practice Browns coach Mike Pettine told reporters Gilbert suffered a hip flexor.

The Browns were hoping Gilbert, the No. 8 pick in the 2014 draft, would bounce back from a lost rookie season, but he’s struggled in camp and in last week’s preseason opener. The Browns spent $7 million for this season to bring in veteran cornerbackTramon Williams in case Gilbert didn’t catch on quickly, and though it’s early, that looks like a sound decision.

If his injury lingers, the Browns will likely be really short on cornerbacks Thursday when the Browns and Bills play a preseason game in Cleveland. Joe Haden andPierre Desir, a 2014 fourth-rounder, sat out both practices with the Bills, and second-year nickelback K’Waun Williams also sat out Tuesday.

USFBrown

Zombo said:

Just read a tweet that he went down in pain in end zone tonight. Hope he is alright.

Z

I heard it was a vaginal strain.

wargograw

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

I would, just like everyone else here.

Because you'd tell us.

How would I know? I'm counting on the same idiot reporters that want their initial "waste of a first round pick!!!" analysis vindicated so they underreport any good days he has.

LogicIsForSquares

Yes, we all know the world is out to get Gilbert. You are letting your "lil Johnny is so mistreated" complex bleed out on to Gilbert.

Canton Mike

@logicisforsquares said:
Yes, we all know the world is out to get Gilbert. You are letting your "lil Johnny is so mistreated" complex bleed out on to Gilbert.

I'm with War on this. Fan negativity can be devastating to a player. I have not been a Fan of Gilbert, but bashing the young man is not helping him OR the Browns. As I've said before, I will support any & alll Browns' players & I'm hoping he succeeds here.

We'll see, but I refuse to sabotage any chance the young man may have. He is a Brown.

Mike

Tour2ma · Aug 18, 2015 12 8View on X

Zombo said:

Hip Flexor.

We sure are going to be short-handed Thursday night.

Justin Gilbert injured early in final Browns-Bills practice

Posted by Zac Jackson on August 18, 2015, 7:12 PM EDT

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Second-year Browns cornerback Justin Gilbert had quite a day Monday when the Browns and Bills held a joint practice in Rochester.

Tuesday, he had a much shorter day. Gilbert left early in the teams final joint practice session after going down and needing an assist from team trainers to get up and head to the sideline.

Trainers placed ice and a protective wrap on Gilberts right quad, and he watched the rest of practice from the sideline. After practice Browns coach Mike Pettine told reporters Gilbert suffered a hip flexor.

I am not sure that's Atomic Baum I smell...

D Bone

@usfbrown said:
I heard it was a vaginal strain.

Literal LOL (with a snort) from me

wargograw

Don't know that I've ever said he was mistreated. CM nailed it.

LogicIsForSquares

@canton-mike said:

I'm with War on this. Fan negativity can be devastating to a player. I have not been a Fan of Gilbert, but bashing the young man is not helping him OR the Browns. As I've said before, I will support any & alll Browns' players & I'm hoping he succeeds here.

We'll see, but I refuse to sabotage any chance the young man may have. He is a Brown.

Mike

If he can't hack hearing bad things about him from people on twitter or some boob like Mary Kay then maybe professional sports aren't for him. Everyone wants him to do well but they aren't going to sugar coat when he is playing awful.

Furious Styles

@wargograw said:
Unrelentingly tell those guys they suck for a year straight and see If they perform the way they do.

A wise coach once told me, " YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN CONFIDENCE".

calfoxwc

Yeah, but players are still human, and a few? have wavering confidence levels out of college, when

they hit the pros.

Mudfly

I would say there's no problem pointing out mistakes or when a player screws up...its what we do....

But the real issue(for me) is the mob mentality to attack a guy "only" because he was a high pick....and how people just pile on when the guy makes a mistake or has a bad game......

Contrary to what people are saying here, the guy has had a decent camp and has worked harder than he did last year(ala Johnny).....and has a ton of interceptions(in camp) and some of the most spectacular plays yet(so, YES, he has looked good and even VERY good some days)....also had one of the best defensive plays in the scrimmage too(but well talk about his one screw up instead).....but when he "almost" gives up a big play in a practice game then has a bad day at practice, everyone piles on and it becomes of whole week of attacking the kid......sheesh....(for almost giving up a pass and having a bad practice)

Mayle spent 3 weeks dropping everything in sight, yet we support him.....Pryor sucked against the Bills and then went down again.....Cam Erving graded lower than Gilbert in the Wash game(along with about 5-6 others)........ yet you'd think it was only Gilbert who's had some bad days....

Bottom line....coach is sticking with him, because unlike some other busts, this guy HAS shown his capabilities and HAS flashed and made amazing plays. And for every screw up he's made, I can show you 3 quality plays.....and, yes, Ive watched every single play(several times)......and hes worth the effort if we can tap that talent and get him turned into a pro.....some are more work than others.....but standing in the peanut gallery slinging arrows isnt gonna do anything positive for Him, the team or anybody else....and anyone who's trying to learn a job and gets slammed nation wide for making mistakes in a practice is probably gonna feel that, whether you think they should or not......

jrb12711

@mudfly said:

I would say there's no problem pointing out mistakes or when a player screws up...its what we do....

But the real issue(for me) is the mob mentality to attack a guy "only" because he was a high pick....and how people just pile on when the guy makes a mistake or has a bad game......

Contrary to what people are saying here, the guy has had a decent camp and has worked harder than he did last year(ala Johnny).....and has a ton of interceptions(in camp) and some of the most spectacular plays yet(so, YES, he has looked good and even VERY good some days)....also had one of the best defensive plays in the scrimmage too(but well talk about his one screw up instead).....but when he "almost" gives up a big play in a practice game then has a bad day at practice, everyone piles on and it becomes of whole week of attacking the kid......sheesh....(for almost giving up a pass and having a bad practice)

Mayle spent 3 weeks dropping everything in sight, yet we support him.....Pryor sucked against the Bills and then went down again.....Cam Erving graded lower than Gilbert in the Wash game(along with about 5-6 others)........ yet you'd think it was only Gilbert who's had some bad days....

Bottom line....coach is sticking with him, because unlike some other busts, this guy HAS shown his capabilities and HAS flashed and made amazing plays. And for every screw up he's made, I can show you 3 quality plays.....and, yes, Ive watched every single play(several times)......and hes worth the effort if we can tap that talent and get him turned into a pro.....some are more work than others.....but standing in the peanut gallery slinging arrows isnt gonna do anything positive for Him, the team or anybody else....and anyone who's trying to learn a job and gets slammed nation wide for making mistakes in a practice is probably gonna feel that, whether you think they should or not......

The problem is his attitude though. I don't think anyone expected him to be on the elite level day one, the CB position takes time. But when you look really bad and come and say you were "flawless" that really rubs people (me included) the wrong way. Manziel to his credit dropped that crap when he got humbled big time last year, but it's clear Gilbert hasn't.

Richard Sherman can talk smack because he's arguably the best at what he does in the world. Gilbert at this point is no where near that level but still acts that way. That's a major, major problem.