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another strike against the F-35

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  • Clevfan4life C Banned Very Popular
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    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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    www.fortune.com/2015/08/14/f-35-joint-strike-fighter/?xi

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      C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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      Our pilots are gonna eat shit flying this thing. Even the Aussie's and Italians are cutting their orders down. It's the ineptitude of Vietnam all over again, history is literally repeating itself.

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        DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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        Thanks Obama.

        "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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        • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

          Thanks Obama.

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          C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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          @diehardbrownsfan said:

          Thanks Obama.

          That things been under dev long before Obama, probably Bush too. And yeah you didn't fully read the article or you'd see why the bipartisan support of this piece of shit is what's kept it going. Lockheed distributed production of this pig throughout multiple states so that no congressman and senators want the project killed cause it brings so much money into their state.

          This is the fundamental problem with DC that no one wants to look in the eye because the entire military industrial complex will be called into question. This is a complete fleecing of ALL OF US. 1 trillion fucking dollars. Republicans will shut the govt down over all this other bullshit but nobody seems to care about this. This is joke. By the time this thing would be fully vetted and fit for duty even the Chinese might have their own home grown fighter that would keester the F-35. The Russians probably already have something that would weave floral patterns in the sky all around the 35.

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            gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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            In case anyone's wondering...

            http://www.aviatia.net/versus/eurofighter-vs-f35/

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              DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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              Shows you the quality of Engineering students in the USA.

              "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                Shows you the quality of Engineering students in the USA.

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                MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                @diehardbrownsfan said:

                Shows you the quality of Engineering students in the USA.

                Yeah they suck

                Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

                  Shows you the quality of Engineering students in the USA.

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                  C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                  @diehardbrownsfan said:

                  Shows you the quality of Engineering students in the USA.

                  or a military industrial complex that is go obese that it necessitates so many unnecessary systems in order to spread out production, for the sake of political leverage. Likely about money in the end. In Russia I think they just say make this fucker go as fast as possible, as high as possible....and turn like it's on rails. Then we'll add shit to it piece by piece so that one thing doesn't shit can the entire design. I think they're asking the Lockheed engineers to do too much too soon. Materials research is probably not at the level necessary for some of the things these guys are thinking up. What's concerning is that think tanks assessment that basic fundamental principles of avionic engineering have been fudged. I understand if you have weapons that can shoot without the plane actually looking at the target, that you don't need the thing to turn like a bat....but then you make it a high energy fighter that can power out of a turning match with a more nimble opponent...get altitude/distance...come back for another go. But they didn't even give this thing that. The Russian planes will out turn this thing and also outburn it. I guarantee no current pilot who grew up on sound fundamental air to air combat efficiency will like this thing for shit.

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                    DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                    It probably is a fat ass whale of a loser aircraft. But so what? We've had them many times. Things will turn out fine. Take your prozac and calm the fuck down.

                    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                      Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by
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                      We still have F18s, & F22s that outfly anything Putin can put in the sky.

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                        Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by
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                        And our A-10s can handle anything they roll across the ground.

                        We'll be okay.

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                          We still have F18s, & F22s that outfly anything Putin can put in the sky.

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                          @legacy-fan said:

                          We still have F18s, & F22s that outfly anything Putin can put in the sky.

                          Russia's 4th gen upgraded planes would wipe the floor with the 18's and be such an equal to the 22's that it would come down to pilot skill if they got close.

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                            DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                            http://topyaps.com/top-10-strongest-air-forces-of-the-world

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                              @legacy-fan said:

                              We still have F18s, & F22s that outfly anything Putin can put in the sky.

                              Russia's 4th gen upgraded planes would wipe the floor with the 18's and be such an equal to the 22's that it would come down to pilot skill if they got close.

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                              Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by
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                              @clevfan4life said:

                              Russia's 4th gen upgraded planes would wipe the floor with the 18's and be such an equal to the 22's that it would come down to pilot skill if they got close.

                              I bet.

                              http://europe.newsweek.com/russia-suffers-six-military-aircraft-crashes-six-weeks-330282

                              6 crashes in 6 weeks.

                              Cause: too much flying

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                                WalterWhiteW WalterWhite wrote on last edited by
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                                I can truly say you have no idea what the absolute fuck you're talking about.

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                                  http://breakingdefense.com/2015/07/f-16-vs-f-35-in-a-dogfight-jpo-air-force-weigh-in-on-whos-best/

                                  Read this before you get your panties all bunched up over the f-35. It's not a dogfighting jet. The F-22 is.

                                  Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                    I can truly say you have no idea what the absolute fuck you're talking about.

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                                    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                                    @walterwhite said:

                                    I can truly say you have no idea what the absolute fuck you're talking about.

                                    Walter go away and come back when you have a clue. I can truly say that you're a complete idiot and moron without a single ounce of any redeeming intelligence or a picogram of analytical insight...nothing to definitively say i'm part of an advanced species with an intellect superior to that of the common beast. You don't. There's apes out there more aware of shit than you are.

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                                      C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                                      There's what happened in the past when American engineers got over enamored with the beyond the horizon kill mentality. Yes it absolutely matters that the F-35 can't turn with an aircraft from the 1980's that was loaded down with fuel tanks and missiles. YEah you heard that right. A clean 35 got hammered, took home a DONUT, against a 1980's aircraft that was travel fit.

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                                        C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                                        Here's why the Australians think the F-35 is a pos. I guess we convinced them to still buy some but this video is from 2010 when it appears they wanted nothing to do with it. "Can't climb, can't turn, can't run".

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                                          We still have F18s, & F22s that outfly anything Putin can put in the sky.

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                                          C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                                          @legacy-fan said:

                                          We still have F18s, & F22s that outfly anything Putin can put in the sky.

                                          You need to watch that last video about a joint excercise from 2010 where the Russian fighters peed on the F-18's. I mean really F-18's? Even back in the day they used the F-14's as the dogfighters to cover the 18's bombing runs.

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